Guide on buying from PI Options

[See_nik]

Another bad one for Car Resource taken fr:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/toyotawish/...+Reading+%3E%3E

FL X/ Car resources / Mar 06/ cash 74 000 [ no loan]/ omv 19.7 k/ half leather/sport rims

As first timers dealing with PI, we naively believed the SE that our OMV is between 21 to 23 k, as told to us. There is no black and white, but a verbal understanding to this contract. You never have to do that with Borneo Motors/KM, etc.

Looking back now, we are so foolish to be so trusting.

During car collection day, when we realised (by checking the online LTA website) that the OMV of our Wish FL X is only 19.7 k (and not at least 21 k), we went to talk to the (previously) very polite manager/Senoir SE.

As civilised people, we never resort to "bang-table", etc uncivilised tactics to bring across our point of contention, over a failed promise of a 21k OMV.

The (now) super-RUDE manager/Senoir SE (used to be very nice, polite when trying to get a deal earlier), did not even bothered to explain the apparent discrepency and just shouted:

"See our company lawyer".

Well, as we had no Black&White (smarten up after reading the wish Forum about "6-in-1", etc, and cannot turned-back-the-clock, we simply went off with our new FL Wish X.

Our intention is not to ruin their PI business, but this is not the way to do business and handle customers.

That's our buying experiences with Car Resources.

Sounds a little like my PI ....before sign, super nice, polite etc. After buy, NEVER call me about anything for more than 2 months. Now going into third month still no car - Shun Heng.

1. Auto Impressi-- (Bedok) = W3Y/60K, 3 free services
2. Autoh-- (SMing)
3. Automag-- (JPemimpin) = Autoworld (JPemimpin)
4. Autopoi-- (Ubi)
5. Autotru-- (Ubi)
6. Benchma-- Motori-- (TCity)
7. BH- (Ubi) = AP, Autofix (SMing)
8. Ca- Resourc-- # # (KBukit) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved; W3Y, FS 5Y
9. Cartim-- ** (CWealth, Ubi) = MBM Wheel Power (SMing), AP, AF, Mega Auto (ECoast), www.cartimes.com.sg
10. Chip Gua- (TCity) *
11. Chua- Ca- (Ubi)
12. Eur- Motor- (Balestier)
13. Frank-- Moto- (FrankelAv) = 3 free services. After that $25 surcharge if bring own oil.
14. Garag- - (Thomson) = Garage R *
15. Hu- Yan- # (CWealth, SMing, TCity, Ubi) = Sportswagen Auto (Ubi), Proswift Auto Services (Ubi); W3Y/60K, FS 5Y.
16. Hu- Lon- (TCity, Ubi) = World Auto (JPemimpin); W3Y/60K, FS 5 yrs; surcharge $40 if bring own oil(27/02), http://www.hlautomobile.com
17. H- Car- (TCity) = W3Y/60K, FS 3Y
18. Jac- Car- (ChangiRd)
19. Jetly- Holdin-- (StillRd)
20. Ken- Cor-(JBesar)
21. Lec- (Ubi) = AP, Mega Auto (East Coast), www.lecomotor.com.sg
22. Lega-- Motor- (Serangoon)
23. Motop-- Ventur-- (East)
24. Motor Trade-- (TCity) ##
25. Motorw-- (BMerah) * = Motorway * (BMerah); W3Y/60K, www.motorway.com.sg
26. Mov- (BMerah) * = Mova Automotive * (BMerah), AAS Approved; W3Y, 3 services free, www.mova.com.sg
27. Nag- Moto- (YCKang)
28. Pinnac-- (Ubi) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved
29. Ricard- ** (LKee) = Ricardo; www.ricardo.com.sg
30. San Hu- Be- (KBukit) = MBM Wheel Power (SMing); W3Y/60K, FS 5Y
31. S- Vehicl-- Tradi-- (ChangiRd)
32. SH- Pte Ltd (Commonwealth)
33. Shun Hen- (Ubi) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved, www.shautomobile.com.sg
34. Swee Sen- Credi- (TGuan)
35. Ta- Hua- (Commonwealth)
36. Vinc-- (Ubi) # = MBM Wheel Power ** (SMing), www.vincar.com.sg.
37. Wah Le- (Ubi) = AP; FS 5Y
38. World of Wheels (Ubi) ** = Comfort Automotive Services (7 wshops), ST, KST Motorworks, BKS Motorwork (Senoko)

a. AF - http://www.hbiz.com.sg/html/autoforce.htm
b. AP - http://www.autoplus.com.sg/index.asp
c. CAS - http://www.mycas.com.sg/
d. ST - http://www.stpowered.com.sg/ *#

* one star equates one favourable comment.
# NOT favourable comments.

Of course double confirm NO guarantee that the information here is accurate, comprehensive or even current ..... anyone who knows better is welcome to contribute/add on/make corrections.

This post has been edited by See_nik: May 10 2006, 10:44 PM

[Pioneer]

Wah.. u really v hardworking on this man! Respect


Toking abt CR.. They actually talk to me again when they know that I posted a thread @ Wish Forum. They tried to talk abt their reasons of doing their biz.. oh well..

[See_nik]

Actually not all PIs are bad ...... a few people who have dealt with Ricardo actually have good things to say about them. And they have good after sales service, too, unlike the majority of the PIs.

[See_nik]

My point ...a post today on SHC-forum ...

My colleague got his Camry yesterday (cos he need to convert his int'l license). From Ricardo if u remember. Everything swee swee, from day 1 after he booked, was informed of status of delivery, etc. I kaypoh went down with him. Workshop service looks good cos many other cars there. Technician very friendly and helpful. SE no need to say cos fellow bro wife so svs tip top. No hiccup. Everything done nicely incl given copy of English manual (although original manual in Japanese and my colleague is Japanese).

Very good like buying from agent like that. Wat can i say so u put 1 more star for Ricardo. Tks.

Reminder they not cheapest but good.

1. Auto Impressi-- (Bedok) = W3Y/60K, 3 free services
2. Autoh-- (SMing)
3. Automag-- (JPemimpin) = Autoworld (JPemimpin)
4. Autopoi-- (Ubi)
5. Autotru-- (Ubi)
6. Benchma-- Motori-- (TCity)
7. BH- (Ubi) = AP, Autofix (SMing)
8. Ca- Resourc-- # # (KBukit) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved; W3Y, FS 5Y
9. Cartim-- ** (CWealth, Ubi) = MBM Wheel Power (SMing), AP, AF, Mega Auto (ECoast), www.cartimes.com.sg
10. Chip Gua- * (TCity)
11. Chua- Ca- (Ubi)
12. Eur- Motor- (Balestier)
13. Frank-- Moto- (FrankelAv) = 3 free services. After that $25 surcharge if bring own oil.
14. Garag- - (Thomson) = Garage R *
15. Hu- Yan- # (CWealth, SMing, TCity, Ubi) = Sportswagen Auto (Ubi), Proswift Auto Services (Ubi); W3Y/60K, FS 5Y.
16. Hu- Lon- (TCity, Ubi) = World Auto (JPemimpin); W3Y/60K, FS 5 yrs; surcharge $40 if bring own oil(27/02), http://www.hlautomobile.com
17. H- Car- (TCity) = W3Y/60K, FS 3Y
18. Jac- Car- (ChangiRd)
19. Jetly- Holdin-- (StillRd)
20. Ken- Cor-(JBesar)
21. Lec- (Ubi) = AP, Mega Auto (East Coast), www.lecomotor.com.sg
22. Lega-- Motor- (Serangoon)
23. Motop-- Ventur-- (East)
24. Motor Trade-- (TCity) ##
25. Motorw-- (BMerah) * = Motorway * (BMerah); W3Y/60K, www.motorway.com.sg
26. Mov- (BMerah) * = Mova Automotive * (BMerah), AAS Approved; W3Y, 3 services free, www.mova.com.sg
27. Nag- Moto- (YCKang)
28. Pinnac-- (Ubi) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved
29. Ricard- *** (LKee) = Ricardo; www.ricardo.com.sg
30. Richbu-- (MPherson), www.richburgmotors.com/
31. San Hu- Be- (KBukit) = MBM Wheel Power (SMing); W3Y/60K, FS 5Y
32. S- Vehicl-- Tradi-- (ChangiRd)
33. SH- Pte Ltd (Commonwealth)
34. Shun Hen- (Ubi) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved, www.shautomobile.com.sg
35. Swee Sen- Credi- (TGuan)
36. Ta- Hua- (Commonwealth)
37. Vinc-- (Ubi) # = MBM Wheel Power ** (SMing), www.vincar.com.sg.
38. Wah Le- (Ubi) = AP; FS 5Y
39. World of Wheels (Ubi) ** = Comfort Automotive Services (7 wshops), ST, KST Motorworks, BKS Motorwork (Senoko)

a. AF - http://www.hbiz.com.sg/html/autoforce.htm
b. AP - http://www.autoplus.com.sg/index.asp
c. CAS - http://www.mycas.com.sg/
d. ST - http://www.stpowered.com.sg/ *#

* one star equates one favourable comment.
# NOT favourable comments.

Of course double confirm NO guarantee that the information here is accurate, comprehensive or even current ..... anyone who knows better is welcome to contribute/add on/make corrections.

This post has been edited by See_nik: May 11 2006, 10:33 PM

[See_nik]

Another good story from here:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/toyotawish/...+Reading+%3E%3E

Agree with F4600, bought my car from Ricardo, so far so good, i finally see where the extra money is going to, eg the servicing and the free washing of the car. Usually for my service i do not even need to book as if i come in sat morning about 8:30 no is there.

Also brought my Wish for cleaning weekly, of course not as clean as personal washing but definitely much cleaner than bangra manual clean. parts in ricardo is also much faster as they carry mainly toyota parts only....

I think for Toyotas, Ricardo is proving they are a GOOD alternative to Borneo Motors ...

1. Auto Impressi-- (Bedok) = W3Y/60K, 3 free services
2. Autoh-- (SMing)
3. Automag-- (JPemimpin) = Autoworld (JPemimpin)
4. Autopoi-- (Ubi)
5. Autotru-- (Ubi)
6. Benchma-- Motori-- (TCity)
7. BH- (Ubi) = AP, Autofix (SMing)
8. Ca- Resourc-- ## (KBukit) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved; W3Y, FS 5Y
9. Cartim-- ** (CWealth, Ubi) = MBM Wheel Power (SMing), AP, AF, Mega Auto (ECoast), www.cartimes.com.sg
10. Chip Gua- * (TCity)
11. Chua- Ca- (Ubi)
12. Eur- Motor- (Balestier)
13. Frank-- Moto- (FrankelAv) = 3 free services. After that $25 surcharge if bring own oil.
14. Garag- - (Thomson) = Garage R *
15. Hu- Yan- # (CWealth, SMing, TCity, Ubi) = Sportswagen Auto (Ubi), Proswift Auto Services (Ubi); W3Y/60K, FS 5Y.
16. Hu- Lon- (TCity, Ubi) = World Auto (JPemimpin); W3Y/60K, FS 5 yrs; surcharge $40 if bring own oil(27/02), http://www.hlautomobile.com
17. H- Car- (TCity) = W3Y/60K, FS 3Y
18. Jac- Car- (ChangiRd)
19. Jetly- Holdin-- (StillRd)
20. Ken- Cor-(JBesar)
21. Lec- (Ubi) = AP, Mega Auto (East Coast), www.lecomotor.com.sg
22. Lega-- Motor- (Serangoon)
23. L- Auto
24. Motop-- Ventur-- (East)
25. Motor Trade-- (TCity) ##
26. Motorw-- * (BMerah) = Motorway * (BMerah); W3Y/60K, www.motorway.com.sg
27. Mov- * (BMerah) = Mova Automotive * (BMerah), AAS Approved; W3Y, 3 services free, www.mova.com.sg
28. Nag- Moto- (YCKang)
29. Pinnac-- (Ubi) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved
30. Ricard- **** (LKee) = Ricardo; www.ricardo.com.sg
31. Richbu-- (MPherson), www.richburgmotors.com/
32. San Hu- Be- (KBukit) = MBM Wheel Power (SMing); W3Y/60K, FS 5Y
33. S- Vehicl-- Tradi-- (ChangiRd)
34. SH- Pte Ltd (Commonwealth)
35. Shun Hen- (Ubi) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved, www.shautomobile.com.sg
36. Swee Sen- Credi- (TGuan)
37. Ta- Hua- (Commonwealth)
38. Vinc-- (Ubi) # = MBM Wheel Power ** (SMing), www.vincar.com.sg.
39. Wah Le- (Ubi) = AP; FS 5Y
40. World of Wheels ** (Ubi) = Comfort Automotive Services (7), ST, KST Motorworks, BKS Motorwork (Senoko)

a. AF - http://www.hbiz.com.sg/html/autoforce.htm
b. AP - http://www.autoplus.com.sg/index.asp
c. CAS - http://www.mycas.com.sg/
d. ST - http://www.stpowered.com.sg/ *#

* one star equates one favourable comment.
# NOT favourable comments.

Of course double confirm NO guarantee that the information here is accurate, comprehensive or even current ..... anyone who knows better is welcome to contribute/add on/make corrections.

[Princey_anne]

[See_nik]

More stories ......fr http://forums.delphiforums.com/toyotawish/...+Reading+%3E%3E

Don't ever get yourself into trouble.Me book on 22 Jan 06.Went thru 6 biddings and still no news. The best is my SE resign after my 2nd bidding.Then he ask me to look for his manager regarding my case.OK, fine.Guess what?After my last biddibg, 6th bidding, call the mangager asking him how is it? You will never expect what he told me.He said he had reisgned from CR already and ask me look for another manager. A lot of things went on, but finally got my refund back. But when I place my deposit using visa, I wasn't told that there will be a 3% charge.THerefore I only get back 97% of my deposit.So beware that sorry.

If that PI (CR) closes down .....what do you think will happen with the deposit? And in Jan the COE was $9K ...

1. Auto Impressi-- (Bedok) = W3Y/60K, 3 free services
2. Autoh-- (SMing)
3. Automag-- (JPemimpin) = Autoworld (JPemimpin)
4. Autopoi-- (Ubi)
5. Autotru-- (Ubi)
6. Benchma-- Motori-- (TCity)
7. BH- (Ubi) = AP, Autofix (SMing)
8. Ca- Resourc-- ### (KBukit) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved; W3Y, FS 5Y
9. Cartim-- ** (CWealth, Ubi) = MBM Wheel Power (SMing), AP, AF, Mega Auto (ECoast), www.cartimes.com.sg
10. Chip Gua- * (TCity)
11. Chua- Ca- (Ubi)
12. Eur- Motor- (Balestier)
13. Frank-- Moto- (FrankelAv) = 3 free services. After that $25 surcharge if bring own oil.
14. Garag- - (Thomson) = Garage R *
15. Hu- Yan- # (CWealth, SMing, TCity, Ubi) = Sportswagen Auto (Ubi), Proswift Auto Services (Ubi); W3Y/60K, FS 5Y.
16. Hu- Lon- (TCity, Ubi) = World Auto (JPemimpin); W3Y/60K, FS 5 yrs; surcharge $40 if bring own oil(27/02), http://www.hlautomobile.com
17. H- Car- (TCity) = W3Y/60K, FS 3Y
18. Jac- Car- (ChangiRd)
19. Jetly- Holdin-- (StillRd)
20. Ken- Cor-(JBesar)
21. Lec- (Ubi) = AP, Mega Auto (East Coast), www.lecomotor.com.sg
22. Lega-- Motor- (Serangoon)
23. L- Auto
24. Motop-- Ventur-- (East)
25. Motor Trade-- ## (TCity)
26. Motorw-- * (BMerah) = Motorway * (BMerah); W3Y/60K, www.motorway.com.sg
27. Mov- * (BMerah) = Mova Automotive * (BMerah), AAS Approved; W3Y, 3 services free, www.mova.com.sg
28. Nag- Moto- (YCKang)
29. Pinnac-- (Ubi) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved
30. Prim- Auto
31. Ricard- **** (LKee) = Ricardo; www.ricardo.com.sg
32. Richbu-- (MPherson), www.richburgmotors.com/
33. San Hu- Be- (KBukit) = MBM Wheel Power (SMing); W3Y/60K, FS 5Y
34. S- Vehicl-- Tradi-- (ChangiRd)
35. SH- Pte Ltd (Commonwealth)
36. Shun Hen- (Ubi) = Jackspeed (Tampines), AAS Approved, www.shautomobile.com.sg
37. Swee Sen- Credi- (TGuan)
38. Ta- Hua- (Commonwealth)
39. Vinc-- (Ubi) # = MBM Wheel Power ** (SMing), www.vincar.com.sg.
40. Wah Le- (Ubi) = AP; FS 5Y
41. World of Wheels ** (Ubi) = Comfort Automotive Services (7), ST, KST Motorworks, BKS Motorwork (Senoko)

a. AF - http://www.hbiz.com.sg/html/autoforce.htm
b. AP - http://www.autoplus.com.sg/index.asp
c. CAS - http://www.mycas.com.sg
d. ST - http://www.stpowered.com.sg *#

* one star equates one favourable comment.
# NOT favourable comments.

Of course double confirm NO guarantee that the information here is accurate, comprehensive or even current ..... anyone who knows better is welcome to contribute/add on/make corrections.

[Picantorian]

Any feedback on PIs here? Lets cooperate here .......

2 of my frds bought their FIT from a big name PI called Pinnac** but all end up with bad experiences.... so now I'm think twice when i wan to get a car from PI. But i kinda of like FIT design beside Vios(too common and hate BM scv) lay.... shopping for car is really a headach task.

bro, care to share the bad experience?

We are intending to get a Fit from this Pinnac** too at Ubi..

[Picantorian]

Yes, dun have any deals with this PI Pin..... Mo..... I think the SE only think of making for the company and themselves. Do not book from them....

bro, care to share why?

We are thinking of booking a Fit from them. Called them up for a test drive and they say no test drive allowed, unless we confirm buying. What logic is that? Dun test-drive, how to confirm?

Starting to have doubts le..

[Picantorian]

Any PIs carry Honda Fit?

Ricardo only carry Toyota..

[Nutty]

Wah sis... now you and your hubby aiming for Honda Fit liao ah?

Welcome to Honda Family

[Nutty]

Pican.. you can find the answers here

http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/10001.php

[Picantorian]

ya.. was at Pinnac** yesterday to look see. Wanted to go for test-drive tmr, but weird thing is they say no test-drive allowed, unles you confirm buying.

Got this kind of logic meh.. dun test-drive how to know I like or dun like..

[Nutty]

Then you go Kah Motors say you wanna test drive Honda Jazz. Sure can one.

Jazz and Fit... same same.

[Nutty]

I was actually aiming for Jazz... Then kena psycho-ed by my SE to get Civic coz got Ley-long sales during the time of purchase.

Now that petrol costs are rising, a bit

[Picantorian]

saw that CarTimes is selling.. wonder if it is trusted. That Pinnac** not listed.

[Weixiang_06]

finally, you found this thread liaoz... but seriously i think most PIs are like those shops in SLS... open, get as many business as possible, maybe one year later.. close down... then there goes the so called warranty and service....

IMHO, must go for PIs that have been around for long time and got good reviews from our MCFers.... Cheers in your car shopping...

Now i know why everyone so over that Mr erm hmm. Tay incident, if I were you or your hubby, i would also

Haha... wow piah, MCFers really united... pity me never joined u all for any meetings before... later people see me say, i xiao didi....



Seriously about buying from PI, you see their attitude, you like doing business with them.. later say getting ur car, got issues, they say Sorry i dun enterain you, unless you confirm buying another car...

If i were you or ur hubby, i would look elsewhere man....

[Nutty]

I have no experience buying from PI...

Better get some recommendations from fellow MCFers here.

Or you can go SHC and ask.

www.shc-forum.com

[Picantorian]

that is what we intend to do. But when they pass that comment, is already lots of doubts..

[Weixiang_06]

CarTimes, i have read somewhere in MCF... people got some pretty bad complaints about it... reason why i could still remember coz MCFers mentioned that company is car **** and its ISO9002 certified company.. then also give stunt....