Friendstar Supercharged October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/auth_car_info.php?AC=815 Hey, my friend is considering this car. Appearance aside, any idea what the maintenance is like? i really hope people wont simply bash at the maintenance cost simply becos its "conti" lets hear some genuine opinion ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach Clutched October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 All mechanical bits are Toyota actually so mechanically should be easy to manage. The engine is a 1KR-FE, shared with the 1.0l Vitz. Only possible area of concern is the semi-auto transmission, which is also a Toyota sourced unit. From what I read, the Toyota MMT (Multimode Transmission) used in certain models has a pretty patchy reputation overseas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendstar Supercharged October 18, 2007 Author Share October 18, 2007 oh thanks man! good info wat about servicing with agent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach Clutched October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 For that you need to ask those Citroen owners around here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrynadz 5th Gear October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 get the sensodrive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crane Neutral Newbie October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 Is the manual transmission for this model reliable? Hope singapore owners can give some reviews.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendstar Supercharged October 18, 2007 Author Share October 18, 2007 wat's the benefits of senso drive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrynadz 5th Gear October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 the manual is just another manual, nothing much abt it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrynadz 5th Gear October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 its a computer controlled manual just like vw dsg, opel mta..etc http://www.citroen.com/CWW/en-US/TECHNOLOG...RESENTATION.htm the manual performs crappily during gear changes compared to the sensodrive which is a PSA designed unit, the normal manual still a toyota gearbox after all..super jerky feel with no feeling clutch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach Clutched October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 Actually if you look back at the roles of parties in the Czech JV, Toyota did all of the development work for the triplet models (Aygo, C1, 107). PSA Citroen's role was in materials and the diesel engine variant. Although the clutchless-manuals in the C1 and 107 use their respective trade names (Sensodrive & 2-Tronic), they are Toyota sourced. For example, a 107 2-Tronic drives and feels very different from a 1007 2-Tronic differences in size notwithstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentwy Neutral Newbie October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 interesting!! so what about the citroen C1 makes it a citroen? since it's so reliant on toyota parts. would it be better built than say a vitz 1.0 since material is PSA sourced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach Clutched October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 It would not be fair to compare with a Vitz cos have to bear in mind that the TPCA car was designed to be a low cost city runabout, ie cheap to build. You can see the cost cutting of non-essentials in areas like the underside of the bonnet, which is not properly painted but left in primer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentwy Neutral Newbie October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 (edited) ahhh. i see. understand what you mean now. it's a collaboration project between toyota peugoet and citroen to produce a low cost city car. at 50K (from sgcarmart) would you recommend the 107 and C1? or are they overpriced cars with a conti label? in line with the TS question, what about other peripherals (suspension, braking system etc.), are these parts easily replaceble or reliable? Edited October 18, 2007 by Bentwy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach Clutched October 18, 2007 Share October 18, 2007 It depends on what you are looking for in a car. These are low-cost city cars but engineered to suit European tastes, ie, essential safety equipment over gadgets. For example, 4 airbags, ABS and CSC are standard, but they still come only with manually adjustable side mirrors and spartan interiors. But if you compare the OMV with other Jap/ Korean models in the same price range, you will see they are pretty fairly priced actually.... Engine parts wise is likely to be shared with Toyota models (even the factory fitted oil filter is from Toyota-Denso). Not sure about the rest of the peripherals, but given Toyota's role in development, quite likely parts are from the common bin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkk Neutral Newbie October 27, 2007 Share October 27, 2007 Hi all, I am also thinking of getting C1 for a start. Have been going thru reviews like onemotoring.com etc.. It has been quite positive. (I guess) I need some 'realtime' comments. What do u guys think? Speed:? Maintenance:? Running cost:? etc.. all that is necessary to think about when buying a car first time. Thanks!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkk Neutral Newbie October 29, 2007 Share October 29, 2007 Hello... Can anybody help me here?? Thnks in advance! ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stash 1st Gear October 30, 2007 Share October 30, 2007 well there a good mech that specialises in citroen and peugeot, can check with him.. pm me for details Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Clutched October 30, 2007 Share October 30, 2007 http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/auth_car_info.php?AC=815 Hey, my friend is considering this car. Appearance aside, any idea what the maintenance is like? i really hope people wont simply bash at the maintenance cost simply becos its "conti" lets hear some genuine opinion It's actually a Daihatsu engine... no problem ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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