Skywalker Neutral Newbie March 15, 2008 Share March 15, 2008 Looking in 2nd hand market for these 2 cars. Both are latest facelift version, i.e. A4 with big front grill (2005 onwards) and 9-5 with lots of chrome trim in the front (2006 onwards). Both are highly tuneable for performance, just want to know more on maintaining these cars, 1. Source of spare parts & cost 2. Reliability Thanks ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carcraze 1st Gear March 21, 2008 Share March 21, 2008 Both cars are generally reliable. Spare parts for Audi can be easily sourced and should be cheaper. I would go for the Audi. I think its interior and exterior looks better. The 9-5 interior looks dated but it's more spacious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comnao 1st Gear March 21, 2008 Share March 21, 2008 i will take the saab for its lower costs and depre ... i find audi very overpriced, irregardless brand new or used in terms of parts cost and reliability...audi will be a better bet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear March 21, 2008 Share March 21, 2008 I would go got A4. The interior and exterior are both better looking and the front grill of the Audi is really fierce! New Audi is really overpriced but if you buy 2nd hand is worth it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echelon 3rd Gear March 21, 2008 Share March 21, 2008 Go for the Audi, alot of after market add ons. Check out VAGSG.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Neutral Newbie March 23, 2008 Author Share March 23, 2008 Thanks for all the advise. Are u all from Audi club? (just joking) No doubt in terms of look A4 win 9-5, and personally I love A4 look, and of course its 1.8T engine . But many review shows its CVT gearbox is a let down, cannot handle >200bhp else higher wear & tear = high maintenance cost.... interior space is also small for my family. Saab has well known for its turbo engine with very responsive tuning , great space good as family car but interior look is really dated , exterior is fine.... headache well, will test drive both of them at showroom (new) and decide based on my heart.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echelon 3rd Gear April 13, 2008 Share April 13, 2008 Can also consider the Skoda Superb 1.8T (same engine as the A4 and A6 1.8Ts) plenty of leg room at the back, Long Wheel Base sedan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jailbird005 1st Gear April 13, 2008 Share April 13, 2008 In wat ways u find Audi r overpriced? IMHO, Audi r in the same league as BMW and also competitively priced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankma Neutral Newbie April 17, 2008 Share April 17, 2008 (edited) I am not so sure about the responsiveness of Saab's turbo engine, having driven the new 1.8T, (take note audi is coming with the new 1.8TFSI engine) and Saab 9-5 felt no much different. Here are some facts gleaned from the manufacturers: SAAB 9-5 Engine capacity 1,985 cc Engine type 4 cylinder in-line, turbocharged, intercooled DOHC 16V Compression ratio 9.3 Power 180 bhp Torque 280 Nm Performance Acceleration 11.6s (0-100kmh) Top Speed 210kmh Fuel consumption 10 kmL Audi A4 1.8T (non-TFSI) Engine capacity 1,781 cc Engine type Inline 4-cylinder spark-ignition engine (DOHC) Compression ratio 9.6 Bore x Stroke (82.5 x 84.1) mm Power 163 bhp Torque 225 Nm Performance Acceleration 9s(0-100kmh) Top Speed 223kmh Take note that Audi is known for understaing their figures I agree with the MU CVT thing though, it's good for smooth driving but not for sporty driving. Unlike other countries where they have triptronic, here in singapore, we are stuck the the MU CVT, no thanks to PA! But Audi is due to phase out MU CVT soon and by next year, all their model line-up except for the S and RS models would have S-Tronic a.k.a DSG You read about it here: http://www.audiworld.com/news/08/audi-s-tronic/ Edited April 17, 2008 by Frankma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Neutral Newbie April 17, 2008 Author Share April 17, 2008 Thanks for the information. I believe 9-5 is also understate. Had test drove 9-5 and the turbo lag is almost non-exist, just step hard n the power just continue to pull (never step to readline). Therefore for sure acceleration of 11.6secs is definitely way understate...... My preference is more on performance thus seems like 9-5 is more fun to own, despite it dated looks...... A4 looks better but heard CVT cannot take too much horses, thus limits it potential. And smaller interior space too...... Answer seems clear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hein Neutral Newbie April 20, 2008 Share April 20, 2008 I believe that they are providing a factory ECU upgrade for the Saab, that sound go to almost 8s(0-100).. I test-drove it, and it was torquy.... It's very comfortable, but true, the dash does look outdated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear April 20, 2008 Share April 20, 2008 The interior will grow on you... agree that initial look is outdated.. but as times go by, you will grasp why it's like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear May 8, 2008 Share May 8, 2008 Have you made up your decision? Buying which car? Saw at the SGcarmart, there are many A4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Neutral Newbie May 9, 2008 Author Share May 9, 2008 (edited) Decided on 9-5, and must be 06 model, will be shopping around soon..... seems many black color in 2nd hand market but I dun like black cos hard to maintain limited 06 model too but quite a bit of pre-06 (heard many problems so better get latest facelift model) Edited May 9, 2008 by Skywalker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fos19 1st Gear May 9, 2008 Share May 9, 2008 i thot the 9-3 looks more sportier ? saab has an understated look but the turbo engine is quite well received ... like the 9-3 convertible .. think it is one of the best looking convertible around .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear May 9, 2008 Share May 9, 2008 Actually, the Saab equivalent of the A4 should be a 9-3, and not a 9-5. Get a 9-3 Aero, then get BSR stage one software ($1k+), and within 5 minutes you have a car with 247bhp and 388nm that no CVT A4 can touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damienic 5th Gear May 9, 2008 Share May 9, 2008 I would go got A4. The interior and exterior are both better looking and the front grill of the Audi is really fierce! New Audi is really overpriced but if you buy 2nd hand is worth it! I agree that 2nd hand audi is very worth it. I saw a 16th month old A4 for sale at 95K. which is a really good price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Neutral Newbie May 10, 2008 Author Share May 10, 2008 9-3 too small for my family, thus need a 9-5. Actually in SGP road a normal Saab with stage 1 is more than enough, unless go NSHW then probably at least 250bhp is require. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In NowRelated Discussions
Related Discussions
NEVS Emily GT: Saab engineers shock with 621-mile EV
NEVS Emily GT: Saab engineers shock with 621-mile EV
Saab cars
Saab cars
Squeezing sound after suspension replacement
Squeezing sound after suspension replacement
RIP Saab
RIP Saab
2nd Hand Saab 9-5 yr 06
2nd Hand Saab 9-5 yr 06
Saab 9-3 Aero Convertible
Saab 9-3 Aero Convertible
Is this dealer nuts?
Is this dealer nuts?
This TKB really....
This TKB really....