Feedback on Chrysler Grand Voyager 3.3A Options

[Neoscan]

Hi there,

Have not test driven one yet but thought the performance specification and price are quite ok.
Japanese MPV are just too common on the road.
Anyone driving this car presently? Wanted to know the car interm of:

a) Space, luxury and comfort (compare with Grandis, Odyssey, Estima equivalent)
b) Ease of maintenance and general reliability(Made in US means lousy QA)?
c) Can last the next 10 years?
d) Fuel frugal to drive around .

If you have other information, please feel free to let me know.

Thank you very much.

Regards,

[Coolpica]

My friend is driving one, the older version. Only thing I hear from him, the FC is damn lousy.

[Jolie888]

Wanted to consider it previously, but changed my mind when I realized (then) that it got only 1 or 2 stars for NCAP crash safety.

In the NCAP report, the test Chrysler Voyager car actually split into two on the side impact test.

Big petrol guzzler of an MPV, with bottom-drawer crash test safety.
No thank you. I think my family is more important to me, for that incremental cheaper$-per-cc/size incentive.

[Neoscan]

Amazing!!!!

100k+ MPV and yet only scoring 1-2 star rating like the made in china MPV....

No wonder they went bankcrupt producing such crap

[Fcw75]

Dun tink this car can ever be fuel efficient. .

[Tarzan666]

3.3 litre some more.road tax per year how much siah.3k?

[Watwheels]

Friend, dun judge MPVs just by looking at the numbers found on the roads.

Go and test drive all to see for yourself. What you want from (a)~(d) can only be found on a Japanese MPV. The one you mentioned is opposite of everything you had in mind.

[Hamburger]

test a Alphard n a voyager.........proly e Toyota will win u over

[Watwheels]

test a Alphard n a voyager.........proly e Toyota will win u over

This I agree cos many Hong Kong celebs have this MPV. It can be pimped to be even more luxurious.

[Silver_blade]

I was considering it when I was shopping for an MPV last year.

This car can't meet most of what you are looking for. The only thing going for it is it's size and the seats (for the passenger) is among the most comfortable...cos of it's size. Loads of shoulder, leg and headroom. The Stow N Go system is also very useful.

But road handling is so-so, built quality is typical of most American cars, under power, etc...

[Furrynadz]

zafira, s-max, picasso

[Detion]

Test the alphard, Vellfire or Nissan Elgrand... Definitely will be much much better than Than Chrysler Grand Voyager. IF you want power, get the Toyota Alphard or Vellfire 3.5L version..

[Silver_blade]

zafira, s-max, picasso

These are good choices. I also considered Elgrand (specs only..cos it was not launched in s'pore yet) but gave up...cos it's too high for some carpark. So it is not practical for me...cos i don't have a chauffeur to wait for me while I shop or in a meeting.

This post has been edited by Silver_blade: Jul 7 2009, 11:33 PM

[Silver_blade]

Not sure about alphard or Vellfire. But test drove the Elgrand...it's like driving a van. Completely lack of 'feel' and road-holding is van-like.

[Nostalgia]

Not sure about alphard or Vellfire. But test drove the Elgrand...it's like driving a van. Completely lack of 'feel' and road-holding is van-like.

I was in the showroom two years ago, bent down and look at the rear suspension setup. Leaf springs....just like good-old three tonners....
Salesperson told me it was a deliberate design choice to 'improve comfort due to the weight of the car'...

This post has been edited by Nostalgia: Jul 8 2009, 11:01 AM

[Darryn]

If you're seriously considering something that size go and take a look at the vito and fiat minibusses.

I drove the fiat 12 seater - 2 litre turbo diesel, performance was "ok", handling about what you'd expect from a van, but if you didn't want a sports car also ok. At 120km it was quiet.

Seats were very comfy, and very convenient to get in and out. Was manual only but because of diesel torque easy to drive, with reversing camera parking also not a chore.

And big plpus for me was the hinged rear doors and fully removable rear seats (row by row) so easy to reconfigure if wanted to carry any cargo. If I recall register as S plate when I looked a little over two years ago was about $80k

[Alfisti168]

I was in the showroom two years ago, bent down and look at the rear suspension setup. Leaf springs....just like good-old three tonners....
Salesperson told me it was a deliberate design choice to 'improve comfort due to the weight of the car'...

...FC will be

And what about Renault Espace? Though no longer on the price list le, but you can enquire if there are any leftover cars still unsold. Bargain hard already, you may get a comfortable cruiser.

This post has been edited by Alfisti168: Oct 28 2009, 09:46 AM

[Plusnplus]

If you're seriously considering something that size go and take a look at the vito and fiat minibusses.

I drove the fiat 12 seater - 2 litre turbo diesel, performance was "ok", handling about what you'd expect from a van, but if you didn't want a sports car also ok. At 120km it was quiet.

Seats were very comfy, and very convenient to get in and out. Was manual only but because of diesel torque easy to drive, with reversing camera parking also not a chore.

And big plpus for me was the hinged rear doors and fully removable rear seats (row by row) so easy to reconfigure if wanted to carry any cargo. If I recall register as S plate when I looked a little over two years ago was about $80k

vito petrol ( S plate) = viano ? if true, that's around 200k plus now (sept 2009).
fiat minibus buy from PI or fiat profesional singapore?
i also want 8-12 seat vehicle, petrol (S plate) with around 80-100k (from AD of course)

btw, new grand voyager look so box/ square. prefer the old model. but again it is 3000cc? even for opc need big $ rd tax :)

[Darryn]

vito petrol ( S plate) = viano ? if true, that's around 200k plus now (sept 2009).
fiat minibus buy from PI or fiat profesional singapore?
i also want 8-12 seat vehicle, petrol (S plate) with around 80-100k (from AD of course)

btw, new grand voyager look so box/ square. prefer the old model. but again it is 3000cc? even for opc need big $ rd tax :)

The Vito I didn't drive or get price - but is a premium van so expect premium pricing.

The Fiat was from AD, this was back when they were at Teban Gardens - I was filling in time one day when waiting for some stuff at Alfa so decided to take it for a drive (personal circumstances make it a possible choice for me).

Things I liked:
1. Small but tourqy engine - road tax managable but because of turbo diesel on road performance was ok and acceleration, while not fantastic was no worse than the likes of the Carnival or Trajedy that I also test drove (in 2.5l and 2.0 litre petrol variants respectively)
2. Removable seats - often like to carry large or bulky items, so ability to remove seats row by row was a big plus...if in 5 seat variant it had a LOT of cargo space
3. Consumption - no need to say anymore
4. Drive was surprisingly good - not like the vans I used to drive 10 or 12 years ago
5. Seriously, given the current tax structure I would go for a diesel van - remembering that a 2l turbo d is gonna give you about the same torque as a 3l plus petrol, and in this sort of vehicle is torque that is most important, afterall you dun wanna be going awfully fast in a van, but you do want to have good start off and in gear acceleration. The Fiat I drove (wasa the biggest van, but fell short of a truck) got up to 120 no problem (and still had some reserve, but I was on AYE so didn't want to take any further)

[Alfisti168]

But bro, I heard that depreciation jialat leh....