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Relagsingh
Relagsingh post Feb 9 2010, 11:34 PM  
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Ok guys,

I know that this topic has been discussed at length and I know what is the general consensus is like. But what I'm going to present here is more 'down to the wire', ie. prices and packages offered.

1st, I would like to cast my opinions on both of these cars. Some may beg to differ but all comments will be treated with respect. Personally already have a preference, but after looking and feeling both cars, the race is blown wide open. Now it almost depends on which brand gives me a better offer.

C180K BE

Pros:

- Better overall retail package
- Lower road tax
- RWD is just better(Really.)
- Additional boot lip spoiler
- 17" multi spoke rims

Cons:

- Ah Pek image
- Less interior equipment
- Slightly more road and engine noise
- One year older than A4


A4 1.8T Attraction

Pros:

- Impressive interior equipment
- Better looking inside out
- More powerful and refined
- More features

Cons:

- Stiff pricing and unattractive retail package
- Dull handling(Drive select? I'm not so sure... The electro steering doesn't cut the mustard. Really.)
- Ugly rims
- FWD
- Just an expensive VW?

Similiarities:

- Ride in comfort or sport mode almost the same, less the handling and steering feel.
- Both offer 17"rims
- Warranty package





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Miles
Miles post Feb 10 2010, 09:44 AM  
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One has class, sophistication and depth. the other has looks, youth and more toys. Both are equally expensive (forget about depreciation). But which one will make you lust after it longer?

I guess you have the answer.
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Cklasse
Cklasse post Feb 10 2010, 10:04 AM   |  In Reply To Relagsingh
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Go with the heart if pricing is about there.

You may also want to check out the PI C250 CGI, a 1.8 litre turbo charged C-class.


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Soya
Soya post Feb 10 2010, 10:06 AM   |  In Reply To Relagsingh
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I was looking to these 2 usual suspects as well. Nice car n all but it somehow didn't get the juices flowing as much as i had expected for the money.

In the end, decided to keep my T5 as it's definitely got more shove and is pretty fun to drive. Maybe when the 5-seater sexy Passat CC gets here, i might juz be seduced.....
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Mudpeas
Mudpeas post Feb 10 2010, 10:20 AM   |  In Reply To Soya
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i agree with soya ... am still happy with my S60 but the VW 5 seat CC is becoming very tempting.

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Soya
Soya post Feb 10 2010, 10:50 AM   |  In Reply To Mudpeas
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QUOTE (Mudpeas @ Feb 10 2010, 10:20 AM) *
i agree with soya ... am still happy with my S60 but the VW 5 seat CC is becoming very tempting.


haha...we'll turn the PCC into the next ah pek car. thumbsup.gif
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Damienic
Damienic post Feb 10 2010, 10:58 AM  
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I disagree that the current C180 has ah pek image...The previous C class and E class yes, but not the current C class...The Mercs design has clearly improved a lot more recently although I do agree that the A4 still looked better but the C180 is definitely by no means an ah pek car..
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Viceroymenthol
Viceroymenthol post Feb 10 2010, 04:02 PM   |  In Reply To Relagsingh
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I am a merc owner but I chose the A4 for 2nd car. Really.

QUOTE (Relagsingh @ Feb 9 2010, 11:34 PM) *
Ok guys,

I know that this topic has been discussed at length and I know what is the general consensus is like. But what I'm going to present here is more 'down to the wire', ie. prices and packages offered.

1st, I would like to cast my opinions on both of these cars. Some may beg to differ but all comments will be treated with respect. Personally already have a preference, but after looking and feeling both cars, the race is blown wide open. Now it almost depends on which brand gives me a better offer.

C180K BE

Pros:

- Better overall retail package
- Lower road tax
- RWD is just better(Really.)
- Additional boot lip spoiler
- 17" multi spoke rims

Cons:

- Ah Pek image
- Less interior equipment
- Slightly more road and engine noise
- One year older than A4


A4 1.8T Attraction

Pros:

- Impressive interior equipment
- Better looking inside out
- More powerful and refined
- More features

Cons:

- Stiff pricing and unattractive retail package
- Dull handling(Drive select? I'm not so sure... The electro steering doesn't cut the mustard. Really.)
- Ugly rims
- FWD
- Just an expensive VW?

Similiarities:

- Ride in comfort or sport mode almost the same, less the handling and steering feel.
- Both offer 17"rims
- Warranty package


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Relagsingh
Relagsingh post Feb 10 2010, 07:15 PM   |  In Reply To Miles
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Yeah...

There can only be one. Anyway I've made my decision. Took another test again. Not looking back anymore. laugh.gif


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Relagsingh
Relagsingh post Feb 10 2010, 07:18 PM   |  In Reply To Cklasse
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Nah... no PI for me if I'm getting an exec car.

the 250CGI is a good package though. But I'll make do with the 1.6... slightly easier on the pocket as well. Anyway I'm getting a cruiser.


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Viceroymenthol
Viceroymenthol post Feb 10 2010, 07:47 PM   |  In Reply To Relagsingh
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QUOTE (Relagsingh @ Feb 10 2010, 07:18 PM) *
Nah... no PI for me if I'm getting an exec car.

the 250CGI is a good package though. But I'll make do with the 1.6... slightly easier on the pocket as well. Anyway I'm getting a cruiser.


if you're after a cruiser, i suppose you're not interested in the pleasures of a RWD (even tho the C180 is HARDLY a corner carver, given its modest power output), in which case the A4 performs ALMOST as well as the C180 in normal condition handling. and you get to do it in more prettiness, style and comfort as well. oh well just my opinion

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Littlered post Feb 10 2010, 07:52 PM   |  In Reply To Viceroymenthol
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QUOTE (Viceroymenthol @ Feb 10 2010, 07:47 PM) *
if you're after a cruiser, i suppose you're not interested in the pleasures of a RWD (even tho the C180 is HARDLY a corner carver, given its modest power output)...

No need to go fast to enjoy the pleasure of a RWD. You'll find it easier to stick to your lanes in slow right handed traffic light turns while you see other cars struggling.
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Miles
Miles post Feb 10 2010, 10:11 PM   |  In Reply To Relagsingh
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QUOTE (Relagsingh @ Feb 10 2010, 07:15 PM) *
Yeah...

There can only be one. Anyway I've made my decision. Took another test again. Not looking back anymore. laugh.gif


Congrats!
You will not regret it. 9.7 sec to the century sprint is not fast for some, but it is sufficient for local traffic and road condition.
The chassis is one thing you will enjoy most .... much more than a bimmer or an audi f you're a cruiser.

Which colour combo did you choose?
The keys and dash you'll be getting is totally new (E class type keys and sports dash), if its new shipment .... slightly different from the previous batch. I'm sure you'll like it.
If you are getting the same batch as mine, you'll get Bridgestone Potenza RE050 tyres with the multispoke rims. Otherwise, it'll be either Conti Sport Contact 3 or Michelin Primacy HP. They only ship with either one of these.
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Relagsingh
Relagsingh post Feb 11 2010, 09:51 AM   |  In Reply To Miles
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QUOTE (Miles @ Feb 10 2010, 10:11 PM) *
Congrats!
You will not regret it. 9.7 sec to the century sprint is not fast for some, but it is sufficient for local traffic and road condition.
The chassis is one thing you will enjoy most .... much more than a bimmer or an audi f you're a cruiser.

Which colour combo did you choose?
The keys and dash you'll be getting is totally new (E class type keys and sports dash), if its new shipment .... slightly different from the previous batch. I'm sure you'll like it.
If you are getting the same batch as mine, you'll get Bridgestone Potenza RE050 tyres with the multispoke rims. Otherwise, it'll be either Conti Sport Contact 3 or Michelin Primacy HP. They only ship with either one of these.


Are u referring to this key?

http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_...17&CUR=21#P


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Miles
Miles post Feb 11 2010, 11:44 AM   |  In Reply To Relagsingh
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QUOTE (Relagsingh @ Feb 11 2010, 09:51 AM) *


Yes, but the C comes with 3 buttons, same as E. Its lighter than the old key, which was heftly. And the buttons are smaller. Most importantly,the fibre optic interface of the key is no longer circular, but rectangle. You'll know what i mean when you collect your car.

This is the old key
http://images.google.com.sg/imglanding?q=m...M&start=350
http://www.3dexport.com/img-mercedes-key-7823.htm#topimg



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Yahgo22 post Feb 11 2010, 11:57 AM  
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For me A4 for sure.

Look for A4 : COOL, TRENDY AND YUPPIE.

BENZ till now till project an AH PEK AND BIZMAN CAR provided u drv a SLK OR CLK.



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Xtrocious post Feb 11 2010, 04:09 PM   |  In Reply To Miles
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QUOTE (Miles @ Feb 11 2010, 11:44 AM) *
Yes, but the C comes with 3 buttons, same as E. Its lighter than the old key, which was heftly. And the buttons are smaller. Most importantly,the fibre optic interface of the key is no longer circular, but rectangle. You'll know what i mean when you collect your car.

This is the old key
http://images.google.com.sg/imglanding?q=m...M&start=350
http://www.3dexport.com/img-mercedes-key-7823.htm#topimg


Is the new key "better" than the old one (got mine in Oct 2009)?

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Viceroymenthol
Viceroymenthol post Feb 11 2010, 04:34 PM   |  In Reply To Yahgo22
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QUOTE (Yahgo22 @ Feb 11 2010, 11:57 AM) *
Look for A4 : COOL, TRENDY AND YUPPIE.

BENZ till now till project an AH PEK AND BIZMAN CAR provided u drv a SLK OR CLK.


COOL, TRENDY AND YUPPIE
but many people who drive AUDI POCKET NO MONEY
just like ME
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Porker post Feb 11 2010, 07:11 PM   |  In Reply To Relagsingh
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Why you never consider 335? Be my brother lah... If you choose mercedes... I will despise you biggrin.gif


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Miles
Miles post Feb 12 2010, 05:53 AM   |  In Reply To Xtrocious
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QUOTE (Xtrocious @ Feb 11 2010, 04:09 PM) *
Is the new key "better" than the old one (got mine in Oct 2009)?


I prefer the new key because its lighter (used to like the BMW key because its really light)
But i prefer the looks of the old key.
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