Liquimoly Ceratec / Other products that coat engine parts

[Fuelsaver]

Hi

 

Has anyone tried Ceratec from Liquimoly? Read positive feedback from few overseas forum + there're also youtube videos showing the ceramic coating stays on dismantled engine parts.

[Pandaeyes]

Hi

 

Has anyone tried Ceratec from Liquimoly? Read positive feedback from few overseas forum + there're also youtube videos showing the ceramic coating stays on dismantled engine parts.

 

Google for Xado. They have supplier here. Tried before. Sticks and coats for 100,000KM.

[Fuelsaver]

 

Google for Xado. They have supplier here. Tried before. Sticks and coats for 100,000KM.

tks bro, what i know was last 40-50k km.

 

have u tried? how was the effect / feel?

[Yuan]

Hi

 

Has anyone tried Ceratec from Liquimoly? Read positive feedback from few overseas forum + there're also youtube videos showing the ceramic coating stays on dismantled engine parts.

 

My workshop was fiercely trying to sell me this product.

 

I flatly rejected them.

 

Maybe I old fashioned or old mind set. I still prefer the traditional or conventional method of using only engine oil approved by my car manufacturer and servicing my car (changing of parts and fluids) at the stipulated intervals. That should keep my car (including engine parts) in good working/operating conditions.

Edited November 11, 2014 by Yuan

[Fuelsaver]

 

My workshop was fiercely trying to sell me this product.

 

I flatly rejected them.

 

Maybe I old fashioned or old mind set. I still prefer the traditional or conventional method of using only engine oil approved by my car manufacturer and servicing my car (changing of parts and fluids) at the stipulated intervals. That should keep my car (including engine parts) in good working/operating conditions.

Noted ur take on that. Another promising product recommended by pandaeyes

 

http://xado.com.sg/main/about?url=REVITALIZATION

[Fuelsaver]

Side track a lil, liquimoly advised me not to use ceratec for auto trans n cvt, but recommended me this -

 

DESCRIPTION

PROPERTIES

TECHNICAL DATA

AREAS OF APPLICATION

APPLICATION

AVAILABLE PACK SIZES

PI 02/04/10

ATF Additives

Due to the additives contained, rubber and plastic seals in power-steering and transmissions receive optimal care. Leaks in the gearbox caused by hardened or brittle seals are prevented or remedied. In addition, holes and ducts in the transmission are cleaned, the performance of the oil is revitalized. The noise from the power-steering will be reduced and the shifting operations are improved. Using ATF Additives, the service life of automatic transmissions can be lengthened and repair costs reduced.

- Prevents oil loss

- Regenerates seals

- Cleans and protects

- Improve steering characteristic and reduced the noise

- Damps down shifting operations and protects from wear

- Prevents deterioration of oil and oxidation

- Lowers repair costs and lengthens the service life

Color

Viscosity at +40 °C Viscosity at +100 °C Density at 15 °C Refractive index 20 °C

: brown

: approx. 166 mm2/s

: approx. 26 mm2/s

: approx. 0.888 kg/dm3 : approx. 1.478

DIN 51562 DIN 51562 DIN 51757

Suitable for power-steering and automatic transmissions that are filled with ATF II and ATF III oils.

Mix ATF Additive into the gear oil using the dipstick. 250 ml are sufficient for up to 8 liters of oil.

ATF Additives 250 ml Part no. 5135 D-GB-I-E-P 250 ml Part no. 8336 GB-ARAB-F

Our information is based on thorough research and may be considered reliable, although not legally binding.

 

 

 

 

 

Liquimoly reply to my email enquiry -

 

 

Many thanks for your inquiry dated 05.11.2014 and the interest in our products.

We have arranged your inquiry and we can recommend the following product.

Liqui Moly ATF Additives Art.-Nr. 5135

Don`t use Liqui Moly Cera Tec in Automatic Transmission and CVT Transmisson, It caused problems when you fill Cera Tec in the transmission.

 

We have you a product description in the attachment.

Should you have any further questions, we are always at disposal.

 

 

 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

 

i. A. Jakob Göckeler

Anwendungstechniker

 

F & E / Anwendungstechnik

 

Phone: +49 731 1420-172

Fax: +49 731 1420-644

 

LIQUI MOLY GMBH

Jerg-Wieland-Straße 4, D-89081 Ulm

 

www.liqui-moly.de

 

Amtsgericht Ulm HRB 1383 | Geschäftsführer: Ernst Prost

Court of registration Ulm, HRB 1383 | Managing Director: Ernst Prost

 

LIQUI MOLY ist Deutschlands beliebteste Motorenöl-Marke !

LIQUI MOLY is Germany´s most popular motor oil brand !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Von: David Kaiser/Liqui Moly/DE

An: Jakob Göckeler/Liqui Moly/DE@LM,

Datum: 05.11.2014 10:36

Betreff: WG: About CERATEC

Gesendet von: Jakob Göckeler

Edited November 11, 2014 by Fuelsaver

[Furrynadz]

oil at 5k is best

[ChickenMob]

oil at 5k is best

 

that one more for turbo engine already leh.....

 

actually depends on what you are using, for NA some will cause engine to feel more sluggish before the 6-7k mark....

some still can last all the way to 10k...depends on the oil also

[Pandaeyes]

tks bro, what i know was last 40-50k km.

 

have u tried? how was the effect / feel?

tried on jap car. very smooth. tried their trans additive too. at that time, imported them.

[Fuelsaver]

tried on jap car. very smooth. tried their trans additive too. at that time, imported them.

tks bro pandaeyes. seemed like 8ml 225ml is better than 300ml for microscopic chemical bonding to worn metal parts.

some more only need 1500km before oil drain, but in any case will top up during next oil change.

 

have u tried xado product on the transmission?

oil at 5k is best

oil is to lubricate; this is to chemically bond with worn metal parts + form additional ceramic layer.

 

best to have both then?

Edited November 12, 2014 by Fuelsaver

[Furrynadz]

tks bro pandaeyes. seemed like 8ml is better than 300ml for microscopic chemical bonding to worn metal parts.

some more only need 1500km before oil drain, but in any case will top up during next oil change.

 

have u tried xado product on the transmission?

oil is to lubricate; this is to chemically bond with worn metal parts + form additional ceramic layer.

 

best to have both then?

 

 

oil have additive that can cling to surface as well as anti wear

u dont need extra ingredient that add on to it

 

give u a scenario

 

when u are hot on the beach, which would u prefer

 

1) full nude

2) shorts

3) fake singha beer t shirt and shorts

4) full office wear with suit and tie

 

 

engine problems arise from HEAT not from coating..etc

dont add "gae zua" thing to suffocate and spoil your engine COOLING EFFICIENCY

[Fuelsaver]

 

 

oil have additive that can cling to surface as well as anti wear

u dont need extra ingredient that add on to it

 

give u a scenario

 

when u are hot on the beach, which would u prefer

 

1) full nude

2) shorts

3) fake singha beer t shirt and shorts

4) full office wear with suit and tie

 

 

engine problems arise from HEAT not from coating..etc

dont add "gae zua" thing to suffocate and spoil your engine COOLING EFFICIENCY

agree, but not totally as heat arises from friction between metal parts contact as well as fluid contact w metal parts. btw, the ceramic coating does not coat on smooth surface; it merely penetrates the worn area n fill itself up till smooth n that's it (according to relevant literature / diagram / video).

[Pandaeyes]

agree, but not totally as heat arises from friction between metal parts contact as well as fluid contact w metal parts. btw, the ceramic coating does not coat on smooth surface; it merely penetrates the worn area n fill itself up till smooth n that's it (according to relevant literature / diagram / video).

yes, I tried on auto trans oil. (4at). It was smooth.

[Fuelsaver]

yes, I tried on auto trans oil. (4at). It was smooth.

The 8ml ex120at rite?

[ER-3682]

yes, I tried on auto trans oil. (4at). It was smooth.

Never use ANY additives on Automatic Gearbox,it may cause "Partial Slip",it may be smoother,but the way the power it delivered may not be the 100% to the Mfg specs.Automatic gearbox just need the Factory's specs oil..it will give trouble free for years to come.

[Fuelsaver]

just did my 120k km major svc -

 

- 5w-30 castrol edge titanium eo (byo)

- liqui moly ceratec added to eo (byo)

- drain n fill sp-iii autotrans fluid (byo)

- bleed n refill bosch dot 4 brake fluid

- injected 8ml syringe of xado ex120 revitalizant for autotrans

 

during start up after park ride for few hrs, initial tappet noise diminished. car also feels lighter probably due to 5w-30 (prev, usin 0w-40). engine n trans noise also noticeably less intrusive in cabin. 7yo ride kinda become < 3yo ride again, less the soft occasional squeaks.

[Divers]

Side track a lil, liquimoly advised me not to use ceratec for auto trans n cvt, but recommended me this -

 

DESCRIPTION

PROPERTIES

TECHNICAL DATA

AREAS OF APPLICATION

APPLICATION

AVAILABLE PACK SIZES

PI 02/04/10

ATF Additives

Due to the additives contained, rubber and plastic seals in power-steering and transmissions receive optimal care. Leaks in the gearbox caused by hardened or brittle seals are prevented or remedied. In addition, holes and ducts in the transmission are cleaned, the performance of the oil is revitalized. The noise from the power-steering will be reduced and the shifting operations are improved. Using ATF Additives, the service life of automatic transmissions can be lengthened and repair costs reduced.

- Prevents oil loss

- Regenerates seals

- Cleans and protects

- Improve steering characteristic and reduced the noise

- Damps down shifting operations and protects from wear

- Prevents deterioration of oil and oxidation

- Lowers repair costs and lengthens the service life

Color

Viscosity at +40 °C Viscosity at +100 °C Density at 15 °C Refractive index 20 °C

: brown

: approx. 166 mm2/s

: approx. 26 mm2/s

: approx. 0.888 kg/dm3 : approx. 1.478

DIN 51562 DIN 51562 DIN 51757

Suitable for power-steering and automatic transmissions that are filled with ATF II and ATF III oils.

Mix ATF Additive into the gear oil using the dipstick. 250 ml are sufficient for up to 8 liters of oil.

ATF Additives 250 ml Part no. 5135 D-GB-I-E-P 250 ml Part no. 8336 GB-ARAB-F

Our information is based on thorough research and may be considered reliable, although not legally binding.

 

 

 

 

 

Liquimoly reply to my email enquiry -

 

 

Many thanks for your inquiry dated 05.11.2014 and the interest in our products.

We have arranged your inquiry and we can recommend the following product.

Liqui Moly ATF Additives Art.-Nr. 5135

Don`t use Liqui Moly Cera Tec in Automatic Transmission and CVT Transmisson, It caused problems when you fill Cera Tec in the transmission.

 

We have you a product description in the attachment.

Should you have any further questions, we are always at disposal.

 

 

 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

 

i. A. Jakob Göckeler

Anwendungstechniker

 

F & E / Anwendungstechnik

 

Phone: +49 731 1420-172

Fax: +49 731 1420-644

 

LIQUI MOLY GMBH

Jerg-Wieland-Straße 4, D-89081 Ulm

 

www.liqui-moly.de

 

Amtsgericht Ulm HRB 1383 | Geschäftsführer: Ernst Prost

Court of registration Ulm, HRB 1383 | Managing Director: Ernst Prost

 

LIQUI MOLY ist Deutschlands beliebteste Motorenöl-Marke !

LIQUI MOLY is Germany´s most popular motor oil brand !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Von: David Kaiser/Liqui Moly/DE

An: Jakob Göckeler/Liqui Moly/DE@LM,

Datum: 05.11.2014 10:36

Betreff: WG: About CERATEC

Gesendet von: Jakob Göckeler

 

Bro,

 

I see the reply. Machiam like the person say dont put Ceratec in the transmission fluid leh. Right or not ah?

But Ceratec is out together with engine oil.

 

Im not sure if Im correct.

 

 

 

 

Liquimoly reply to my email enquiry -

 

 

Many thanks for your inquiry dated 05.11.2014 and the interest in our products.

We have arranged your inquiry and we can recommend the following product.

Liqui Moly ATF Additives Art.-Nr. 5135

Don`t use Liqui Moly Cera Tec in Automatic Transmission and CVT Transmisson, It caused problems when you fill Cera Tec in the transmission.

 

[Fuelsaver]

 

Bro,

 

I see the reply. Machiam like the person say dont put Ceratec in the transmission fluid leh. Right or not ah?

But Ceratec is out together with engine oil.

 

Im not sure if Im correct.

 

 

 

 

Liquimoly reply to my email enquiry -

 

 

Many thanks for your inquiry dated 05.11.2014 and the interest in our products.

We have arranged your inquiry and we can recommend the following product.

Liqui Moly ATF Additives Art.-Nr. 5135

Don`t use Liqui Moly Cera Tec in Automatic Transmission and CVT Transmisson, It caused problems when you fill Cera Tec in the transmission.

 

yes, that was the reply from liqui-moly germany side.

 

btw, i poured ceratec into engine, not autotrans. for autotrans, i injected xado ex120 revitalizant for autotrans.