Plastic bag

[inlinesix]

Still, that doesn't make Germany the role model society of the world to live by.

 

We all know how many U-turns these supposedly developed advance civilization have shat on the rest of the world....most recently the big Diesel U-Turn.

 

Education, role modeling is what Singapore need. Not profiteering thinly veiled under excuse of environmental protection.

 

Charging more for plastic bag will only work as part of a wider  nation wide govt lead effort in education and behavioral cajoling. So far I have only seen concerted effort in forcing a selected President down our throat that we did not choose.

 

Well, i also have to pay for plastic bag in China.  China is NOT the best role model for environmental protection.

 

 

[inlinesix]

And if the backpack is not enough?

Or the backpack is too much?

 

Do a grocery list.

 

If not, backpack + whatever bag loh.

 

 

[DACH]

Do a grocery list.

 

If not, backpack + whatever bag loh.

Grocery list doesn't guarantee the list is exhausive. And there are times you have to improvise your purchases if the list deviates from the merchandise sold in the supermarket.

[Aventador]

This is not a binary application - it is not use plastic bags vs stop using plastic bags

 

the purpose of this move is to force people to REDUCE the use of plastic bags - which has been successfully done in other countries

 

we will still need plastic bags to bag wet refuse

 

but when they charge you money for bags,  you will try to cut down the number you need

it is human nature - free supplies always get abused, especially in Singapore (sad to say)

 

and this is a move in the correct direction

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lala81]

ask your kids to drink tap water or boiled water and bring their own water bottle to school and work. Stop drinking bottled drinks outside.

Bring your own chopstick/fork and spoon to work or school.

 

I think this simple thing will have more beneficial impact to the world than any short sighted policy like charging for plastic bags

[Rayleigh]

ask your kids to drink tap water or boiled water and bring their own water bottle to school and work. Stop drinking bottled drinks outside.

Bring your own chopstick/fork and spoon to work or school.

 

I think this simple thing will have more beneficial impact to the world than any short sighted policy like charging for plastic bags

 

Actually we do. In most dinings, we bring our own double wall bottles filled with ice and two cans of coke light. 

[Lala81]

Actually we do. In most dinings, we bring our own double wall bottles filled with ice and two cans of coke light. 

 

lol unless u have a pipeline of coke light, it still travelled to your house in a PET bottle lol

[Rayleigh]

lol unless u have a pipeline of coke light, it still travelled to your house in a PET bottle lol

 

Metal can packaging not PET bottle lah. And I do have 6 cartons of coke light gotten during CNY which is enough to last me till the next CNY.

Edited September 29, 2017 by Rayleigh

[Kb27]

supermart can charged all they want for plastic bags.

i'll probably just go to the nearby provision shop and buy.

save the hassle..

[Lok666]

The recycle bin in my estate looks like another rubbish bin.

 

A lot of ppl have no idea that it is a recycling bin

 

We need something that stands out like this:

 

[Kklee]

For a start,   I think may be more effective to eliminate the plastics that generally do not get re-used.

 

a)  remove the roll of plastic bags at the vege and fruits area

b)  vege should not come packed in plastics bag

c)   drinks in plastic containers should be prices 50% more expensive over can

d)  milk and dairy in plastic containers should be prices 50% more expensive over glass

 

These are more plastics then a plastic bag

[Kklee]

I would actually support sorting out our garbage before dumping, just like in Japan. But it won't be easy because many of us live in flats, and would find it too much of a hassle to specially bring down recyclable trash down to a disposal area a few blocks away. We could have more recycling bins near lift landings so that we can throw easily when going out.    

 

IMHO,  if really want to do, it can be done.  Here are my suggestions. 

 

1)  

Leave the plastic, glass and paper at the door step in the morning.

Everyday got people come and sweep.

Just spec'ed it into the S&CC.

Put it in the town council report report card.  Then we can see which town council not doing work. 

 

Unfortunately, this will definitely not work in my estate,   this daily routine is not daily. 

 

2)

Let garang guni have a small area at MRT or Bus Interchange.

Make it easy for folks to "exchange"  recyclables for cash.

For BMW only.

 

Work or not,  I don't know.  

 

P.S. 

I used to consolidate newspaper in bulk up to about 30-40kg?

I bring it to the garang guni in Little India/Serangoon which was by the roadside and sold it.

I don't really care about the price but rather,  the accuracy in the weight.

I think he is no longer there.

I know there is another place somewhere in Little India but did not manage to locate it. 

 

These day,  I still maintain the same habit of tying the newspaper in batches but I throw them into the rubbish chute

I do not sell to the garang guni that comes to my door step because I find they have no integrity.

Initially the weighing  using their scale method were far from accurate, later on, it became an estimation, just look and gave a price.   

[Unfair]

Isn't the fact that they came together to change the price of plastic bags anti-competitive ? 

[Kklee]

How will throwing newspaper into rubbish chute help with recycling ? 

 

It won't help.

[Lok666]

There are pros and cons of sorting garbage at home. Some recent studies suggests the old school through garang guni might be more effective, as they are specialised in recognising items for recycling. The old school garang guni (including the old ah ma's that look for cardboard boxes and cans) will even peek into rubbish dumps to find "valuable" rubbish worth recycling, it's a dirty job but very effective.

 

Home sorting can only cover a few broad categories like paper, bottles, cans and others. "Others" is hard to sort once they go into garbage, and most likely end up in landfills. When I look into those neighbourhood recycling bins in SG, I often see people just throw anything.

 

Yes, it's not just about providing the right facilities. Education is also important - stayed with a family in Japan and every day, they would sort their trash into combustibles and non-combustibles for recycling. To them, it's a social responsibility that has been cultivated into a daily habit. Over here, we often use the recycling bins to throw whatever we cannot fit into the normal bins.   

[Kklee]

Garang guni is a very competitive business.

 

IIRC,  last time there was a movement to collect stuffs for charity.  The garang guni receive the wind of it, and move it earlier.

Not sure if it is related to the green plastic bag they used to distribute but now no more. 

Edited September 29, 2017 by Kklee

[Kklee]

In the spirit of capitalist productivity, when there's money to be made, things get done quicker and better.

 

Perhaps that's why recycling effort will fail - no $$$. 

Edited September 29, 2017 by Kklee

[Lala81]

There are pros and cons of sorting garbage at home. Some recent studies suggests the old school through garang guni might be more effective, as they are specialised in recognising items for recycling. The old school garang guni (including the old ah ma's that look for cardboard boxes and cans) will even peek into rubbish dumps to find "valuable" rubbish worth recycling, it's a dirty job but very effective.

 

Home sorting can only cover a few broad categories like paper, bottles, cans and others. "Others" is hard to sort once they go into garbage, and most likely end up in landfills. When I look into those neighbourhood recycling bins in SG, I often see people just throw anything.

 

Most pple don't throw out normal paper except soiled paper especially with food waste say your food wrapper.

 

Cans - your ahma and ahtiong will sapu

Real paper - karang guni will sapu

Bottles i guess no one collect. low margin, anyway glass bottles are hard to find.

 

Until now i always dunno where tetrapaks go in the recycling bin.

anyway the bins are collected by the normal trash collectors who just dump them into the common refuse anyway.