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Posted 20 September 2008 - 09:17 PM

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What is this VVTI gear? My toyota is 3 rd old, yesterday while driving suddenly the engine indicator light on. I sent to BM for checking and said is VVTI gear spoilt. Need to change at S$800 !!!. Luckily my wife I argue and they give free since I service during the warranty period and the car got problem after few days out from the warranty.

IS the VVTI gear easy to spoil? The customer service said is due to poor maintenance. I told him that all my maintenance are from Toyota...he just keep quiet and say...aiyah sometimes it happened. Got like that meh?

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 09:27 PM

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i also have an altis. age around 3.5yrs old.

could you share your driving habbit? are you the sort who will "floor acclerator" on green light kind? tongue.gif

i am rather light footed. so far did not encounter anything like this? lipsrsealed.gif

Please provide more information on this VVTi gear that you mentioned so that i can take note of what symptom to watch out for should it occur.

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 10:45 PM

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Did you change your gearbox ATF as schedule? Toyota ATF Fluid last 40,000KM, but I always change at 30,000KM.
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 10:49 PM

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vvti got nothing to do with gearbox
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Posted 20 September 2008 - 11:08 PM

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I dun tink he meant gearbox at all. He probably meant the VVTI gear in the engine, some sort of gear that activate VVTI?

Edited by Fcw75, 20 September 2008 - 11:09 PM.


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Posted 20 September 2008 - 11:18 PM

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Maybe its the VVT pulley or oil solenoid spoil
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 12:09 AM

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did you change your gearbox ATF as schedule? Toyota ATF Fluid last 40,000KM, but I always change at 30,000KM.


this guy is talking about gearbox loh

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Posted 21 September 2008 - 12:09 AM

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Maybe due to wear & tear. Your VVTi are managed by camshafts or some some call it rocker cam on the shaft. At the end of the shaft it's connected by timing gears and timing chain/belt. I suppose your mechanic is referring to such gears.

On the first pic is most likely the type which Toyota engine runs on: timing chain, and the gears are actually what we call sprockets. The shafts they are connected to are the camshafts or your VVTi.

The second pic is on timing belt and timing gears which are much broader in width to accommodate the belt(not very clear, hope u can see)
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 12:25 AM

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What your customer service said is not wrong. Yes all your maintenance is done at AD but U as the car owner should monitor the lubrication aka engine oil level.

I can understand what they face when dealing with customers who have no idea of what they are talking about. But hey that is not all bad, at least u get them replaced for free or under warranty...
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Posted 21 September 2008 - 03:26 PM

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I did not mention toyota gearbox is VVTI. U tell that to TS, he assume gearbox is VVTI. Thanks. its the engine(VVTI)
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Posted 22 September 2008 - 09:56 AM

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Its not the gear box, just the VVTI gear in the engine. I only realise it when I have the engine indicator light on. Does not feel anything wrong with my car. I am not the speedo type of driver. Also not speeding in MY too laugh.gif . Only thing is whenever I am back MY, I usually have a HEAVY LOAD cargo back to SG. sweatdrop.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif .

I do usually monitor the engine oil. My car is 100% service by BM and i usually just follow the package that they given me. So far the BM never say anything wrong with my car. The only thing is I mostly service my car at the woodlands centre. I do experience the servicing level is not that good compare to the main service centre but that's the nearest to my home.

I will just manually check my car about 1-2 weeks on the oil, etc. My car only been to Genting Highlands once.

I just want to know what I need to keep track on top of the usual BM service and manual checking. What's the cause of the problem?

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 10:11 AM

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hi there,

few years ago, my dad owned an altis too. the engine light lited up while driving and when it does, u will notice a drop in gear power and can feel 'hollow' when accelerating.

Sent to BM twice to get it solved free w warranty. the car was just few mths old at that time. quite disappointed coz its supposed to be toyota! first time they said fixed but it didnt so second time they said they changed the gear and i can see many colorful markings on the engine and parts...i guess they really did a throughly check.

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 06:01 PM

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Those agents normally will change more then they do.. single componet faulty, they change the related item as well.. My friends are all service adviser in C&C ,Opel and Honda, they told me that! Properly is one of your EFI closed loop sensor screwed-up.. your variable valve sensor?
Cannot be the damn gear gone.. those are manufacture to last.. unless you are a crazy driver!

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Posted 22 September 2008 - 09:00 PM

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Require a OBD scanner to read out the fault code. Engine check light on is not a kidding matter.
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:40 PM

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My friend's Altis also encounter this problem few months ago. His bought his Altis only last year. He was quite disappointed as his previous 6 year old Corolla, the last batch of Japan made Corolla brought in by BM is problem free, although he doesn't send it for servicing regularly

Thai quality is really that lousy?

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 09:11 PM

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Well... well... well....

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To me, if the break down is mainly due to wear and tear... so called consumable.. just accept it. tongue.gif

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Posted 25 September 2008 - 10:25 PM

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I think the workmanship, quality inspection standard is not so strict as Japan. Japanese takes their work very seriously and with pride. I am also driving a thailand assembled toyota, the standard of work is really shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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Posted 26 September 2008 - 12:39 PM

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What is this VVTI gear? My toyota is 3 rd old, yesterday while driving suddenly the engine indicator light on. I sent to BM for checking and said is VVTI gear spoilt. Need to change at S$800 !!!. Luckily my wife I argue and they give free since I service during the warranty period and the car got problem after few days out from the warranty.

IS the VVTI gear easy to spoil? The customer service said is due to poor maintenance. I told him that all my maintenance are from Toyota...he just keep quiet and say...aiyah sometimes it happened. Got like that meh?


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Posted 15 November 2010 - 11:27 PM

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It happened to me today, and no choice got it changed at BM a few hundred dollars. Just want to check with you guys, how often will have this happen?

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 12:20 PM

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I dun tink he meant gearbox at all. He probably meant the VVTI gear in the engine, some sort of gear that activate VVTI?


Yes, VVTi is a set of gears operated by hydraulic pressure to adjust the cam phasing. Its still attached to your timing belt/chain and uses this to turn the camshaft.

Yes, I did heard about premature VVTi failure that causes the camshaft to be locked in one position. ITs not a big deal because it won't spoil the engine. Just that you wont' get optimum power and FC. But $800 to replace it isn't cheap...... But I guess AD is like that one. Perhaps the VVTi unit can be taken apart to replace individual parts but they usually just replace the whole module.

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 12:33 PM

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thankfully my tomyam altis still ok. 2.5yrs.

Just did my 40k servicing. Only issue thus far is a creaking suspension coil, just swapped out.

Interestingly though, 5 yr warranty is becoming the norm for BM.
Ironic when older toyota's are more reliable.

According to my SE then, I believe that thaiyotas still have their engine assembled in japan & the rest of the car is assembled in Thailand.



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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:33 PM

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2009 Altis giving off cranking noise while accelerating off from traffic light (occasionally). have to floor more accleration for the noise to go off. Have replaced transmission fuel and engine air filter but problem persist.

Could it due to gearbox issue?

How can the problem be solve? appreciate the advice from members here.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:52 PM

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2009 Altis giving off cranking noise while accelerating off from traffic light (occasionally). have to floor more accleration for the noise to go off. Have replaced transmission fuel and engine air filter but problem persist.

Could it due to gearbox issue?

How can the problem be solve? appreciate the advice from members here.



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2009 Altis giving off cranking noise while accelerating off from traffic light (occasionally). have to floor more accleration for the noise to go off. Have replaced transmission fuel and engine air filter but problem persist.

Could it due to gearbox issue?

How can the problem be solve? appreciate the advice from members here.


could be air-con belt noise

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 12:42 PM

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Following members' advice here, managed to send the car to borneo motors. Just driving and hearing the noise, the serviceman identified the problem as engine knock and there is nothing that can be done to eliminate the problem.

It seems the problem has compromise the fuel efficiency of the car.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:09 PM

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Following members' advice here, managed to send the car to borneo motors. Just driving and hearing the noise, the serviceman identified the problem as engine knock and there is nothing that can be done to eliminate the problem.

It seems the problem has compromise the fuel efficiency of the car.


I suggest you get a second opinion at a trustworthy workshop outside before deciding what to do. The serviceman's diagnosis seems a bit dodgy.

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:11 PM

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next gen Toyota altis, shld b coming next year. but rear feel like jaguar xf and front like vios.

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next gen Toyota altis, shld b coming next year. but rear feel like jaguar xf and front like vios.

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Back quite nice

Front not nice

Interior looks plasticky

Forget about day running lights feature from BM

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 09:45 PM

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My friend's Altis also encounter gear problem. Toyota quality has dropped.

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My friend's Altis also encounter gear problem. Toyota quality has dropped.


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