Kingcopa 1st Gear March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 can i start a MCF New Created Church......I only take salary of $250,000 . i promise not to buy condo and drive fast car I be your partner, I take half ur pay can liao. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoots 3rd Gear March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 not even worth a peanut... still close leh... it's 5/6 of a peanut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 question is does the church goer know that it is 500K... i'm sure most of them will know if they stay awake at the AGM or bother to read the AGM report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoots 3rd Gear March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 The best money making industry are those that offer hope : Education/Training (hope to get good jobs) , investments (hope to make more money from money), marketing (hope to get more sales), Lottery (hope to strike rich) etc...and of course religious stuff (hope to be near God and get their prayers answered). As long you are in the Hope business, you will earn hell lots. People are willing to pay a lot to buy Hope. Yeah... look at how well MLMs recruitments are nowadays with the gloomy economy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 Aiyah, if it is reported and in the open, whats the problem ???? if peek a boo, hide and seek then got problem.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Clutched March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 I be your partner, I take half ur pay can liao. I shall be the auditor, how would you like it to be reported? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alechi 2nd Gear March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anavar Neutral Newbie March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 500k.hahaaha,how to beat record holder benny hinn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavver 4th Gear March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 I be your partner, I take half ur pay can liao. I'll be the assistance then, 10% can liao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohdj Neutral Newbie March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 I don't think that is a fair or politically correct statement from a church. i tot the main pillar is god himself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 If the devotees in that church are not complaining, who are we to complain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkseah Supercharged March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 (edited) i tot the main pillar is god himself? now u know how these mega 'churches' works.. Edited March 30, 2009 by Tkseah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc 3rd Gear March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 Nope, as long as the church management agree to let the $ in certain way, there is no way the authority can do anyting. They can onli ensure that there r not dodgy entries / omission from the account books of the church. IIRC, in the aftermath of the charities scandals, govt requested all NPO to have separate individuals leading the board and executive arm. And NCC was one of those raising issue. I hope they have fully complied with the new regulation to avoid any talk of dogginess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invigorated Supercharged March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 (edited) question is does the church goer know that it is 500K... Agree, I'm sure many pple donated to old-NKF thinking things will be in check but were astounded and stopped donating when the painful revelation came to light. How many hours of hard work have to be put in by donors to raise this $500k? Another point to contend is, do pastors do their job for the love of the job or is the monetary transaction a key consideration? Would they still do what they do if paid an amount that's just reasonably enough to let them function normally? We have to remember that funds that go into morally-binding organisations are different from that of pte ltd, as funds mostly come from DONORS for the MAIN objective of helping others, in this case, the church. I'm sure donors are not expecting so much of their funds to go into helping the pastor instead. Pls see this: Asiaone link "They gave from their hearts By Joy Fang THEY came, they listened and they contributed. The 22,000-strong congregation rallied when their senior pastor, Pastor Joseph Prince, 45, asked them for help in funding the construction of their premises in the Integrated Hub, during a special service held on Feb 15." Edited March 30, 2009 by Invigorated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vroomtattat 2nd Gear March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 not even worth a peanut... 5/6 of a peanut . . . . hmmm, what they do arhh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carndablues Clutched March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 maybe their god is $$$ This is not far from the truth, churches like City Harvest and New Creation are amongst a relatively new breed of churches, politically correct term is "evangelical" or "charismatic", the "not-so-nice" term is "health and wealth" church. Basically what the basic premise of their message is " You give to the church and God will reward you". Could be 2x your donation, 10x....whatever God deems fit....which of course is b-------t, but people will buy into this, cos it's money we're talking about, and who doesn't want more of it? The consistency of this message is to be seen to be believed, I attended the New Creation church for a while, more out of boredom as it is a pretty entertaining service, and the people who attend are by and large, pretty nice people, they've just been suckered in by the lights, the sounds and of course, prince's charisma, he's a pretty funny guy! But if you ask anyone from those churches, to quote a verse from the Bible, they will unerringly quote : Jer 29:11 "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." And the church will bolster this with messages of servitude and how that all adds up to prospering you, and one of the ways to serve is to give and money is a good gift. I still remember the ex-owner of Ken Air, who was a member of New Creation, after his business went bust, he still quoted this verse plus an additional : "My God will not fail me". He was talking about money, but he didn't realise that God doesn't care about money, He cares more about your soul and the life you lead here on earth. It's only people like prince (and where the f do you get a surname like prince, unless you're a rockstar?) and the city harvest charlatans who've successfully turned the focus on money and how to make a lot of it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pufferfish1 Clutched March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 he clever then durai.....................never install golden toilet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord 1st Gear March 30, 2009 Share March 30, 2009 People could have made sacrifices to become pastors in the first place. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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