Best_ctzn Clutched January 17, 2010 Share January 17, 2010 Just thought it good to share with those who are thinking of which primary school to go - neighbourhood or better ones. After attended a P2 parents' orientation programme, what left most impression is the speech from the principle. He received a call from press when PSLE released - how come your school top school only got 281, not within the top few after national best of 289? Answer given was that we must learn to look beyond top scorers statistics. In any school, there are different categories of students from gifted to very slack in their studies. We cannot judge a school based on how many top scorers it has, but more important are the rest of the students cohort - how do their fare in the PSLE? The statistic tells the complete story, although sadly it is not available to main-stream people. Ths school achieve 100% pass in that all student can go to secondary schools. This is not something to trumpet about, as 1 or 2 bad apples will reduce it to less than perfect. What matters is that 89.1% of them are eligible for Special/Express stream, compare to 60% for national average! And all go to better secondary schools to boot! The principle even showed slides to indicate how many go to which school. Really impressive. So it could be that some neighbourhood schools could have some top scorers, which is not that difficult given the current influx of FT students from China. But what about the rest of the cohorts taking the PSLE? I am not trying to be elitist or yayah, just to share my thoughts on this. Thks for reading. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendut 2nd Gear January 17, 2010 Share January 17, 2010 Just thought it good to share with those who are thinking of which primary school to go - neighbourhood or better ones. After attended a P2 parents' orientation programme, what left most impression is the speech from the principle. He received a call from press when PSLE released - how come your school top school only got 281, not within the top few after national best of 289? Answer given was that we must learn to look beyond top scorers statistics. In any school, there are different categories of students from gifted to very slack in their studies. We cannot judge a school based on how many top scorers it has, but more important are the rest of the students cohort - how do their fare in the PSLE? The statistic tells the complete story, although sadly it is not available to main-stream people. Ths school achieve 100% pass in that all student can go to secondary schools. This is not something to trumpet about, as 1 or 2 bad apples will reduce it to less than perfect. What matters is that 89.1% of them are eligible for Special/Express stream, compare to 60% for national average! And all go to better secondary schools to boot! The principle even showed slides to indicate how many go to which school. Really impressive. So it could be that some neighbourhood schools could have some top scorers, which is not that difficult given the current influx of FT students from China. But what about the rest of the cohorts taking the PSLE? I am not trying to be elitist or yayah, just to share my thoughts on this. Thks for reading. You need to go back to school cos I don't understand what it is you're trying to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freestylers09 5th Gear January 17, 2010 Share January 17, 2010 (edited) Thats things in life,we should look further n overall picture actually theres alot good primary and secondary sch around,if me,i rather let my kids to learn than pressure to learn for my area,south view,zhen hua,bukit panjang but really top primary school,but overall stats they r real good actually to see a child potential,till teenager time like 14-18 then we can judge if not really v early to say my pri sch mate top malay schalor during that year,we from normal pri sch,alot come interview in sch but his o level in his top sec sch,he scold double digit,tats y v hard to see when they r young,muz gif kids more time Edited January 17, 2010 by Freestylers09 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongster 6th Gear January 17, 2010 Share January 17, 2010 the most impt lesson i learned from my primary school was how to survive the constant harrassment of the primary 8 students... who looks 20 times bigger because of the onset of puberty. priceless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLLAH Neutral Newbie January 17, 2010 Share January 17, 2010 Just thought it good to share with those who are thinking of which primary school to go - neighbourhood or better ones. After attended a P2 parents' orientation programme, what left most impression is the speech from the principle. He received a call from press when PSLE released - how come your school top school only got 281, not within the top few after national best of 289? Answer given was that we must learn to look beyond top scorers statistics. In any school, there are different categories of students from gifted to very slack in their studies. We cannot judge a school based on how many top scorers it has, but more important are the rest of the students cohort - how do their fare in the PSLE? The statistic tells the complete story, although sadly it is not available to main-stream people. Ths school achieve 100% pass in that all student can go to secondary schools. This is not something to trumpet about, as 1 or 2 bad apples will reduce it to less than perfect. What matters is that 89.1% of them are eligible for Special/Express stream, compare to 60% for national average! And all go to better secondary schools to boot! The principle even showed slides to indicate how many go to which school. Really impressive. So it could be that some neighbourhood schools could have some top scorers, which is not that difficult given the current influx of FT students from China. But what about the rest of the cohorts taking the PSLE? I am not trying to be elitist or yayah, just to share my thoughts on this. Thks for reading. I don;t get your message. What is the Gist of your post? I read 3 times..still no head no tail. For me.. neighborhood schools is bad not because grades but the quality of the students - many come from lousy families, ahbeng father, uneducated parents, these low quality classmates is bad./..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best_ctzn Clutched January 18, 2010 Author Share January 18, 2010 You need to go back to school cos I don't understand what it is you're trying to say. Or are you the one who need to do that? since you don't even understand this simple english... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best_ctzn Clutched January 18, 2010 Author Share January 18, 2010 I don;t get your message. What is the Gist of your post? I read 3 times..still no head no tail. For me.. neighborhood schools is bad not because grades but the quality of the students - many come from lousy families, ahbeng father, uneducated parents, these low quality classmates is bad./..... My point is that we should look beyond the top scorers when we decide which primary school to enrol our kids. We should look at how the rest of PSLE cohort fare - how many go to good secondary schools? As now every neighbourhood school just need to go China to recruit a few top students, they will be guarrantteed a few top scorers in PSLE exams, like this year. But that does not make the neighbourhood schools on par or close to with the 'elite' schools. Fundamentals still remains the same. I am not here to argue as that takes too much time and go nowhere. But I just want to raise the point as above for those on the fence to think about. If you still do not believe or understand, nevermind. Just try not to pass idiotic remarks. Thank you very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh 6th Gear January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 (edited) Just thought it good to share with those who are thinking of which primary school to go - neighbourhood or better ones. After attended a P2 parents' orientation programme, what left most impression is the speech from the principle. He received a call from press when PSLE released - how come your school top school only got 281, not within the top few after national best of 289? Answer given was that we must learn to look beyond top scorers statistics. In any school, there are different categories of students from gifted to very slack in their studies. We cannot judge a school based on how many top scorers it has, but more important are the rest of the students cohort - how do their fare in the PSLE? The statistic tells the complete story, although sadly it is not available to main-stream people. Ths school achieve 100% pass in that all student can go to secondary schools. This is not something to trumpet about, as 1 or 2 bad apples will reduce it to less than perfect. What matters is that 89.1% of them are eligible for Special/Express stream, compare to 60% for national average! And all go to better secondary schools to boot! The principle even showed slides to indicate how many go to which school. Really impressive. So it could be that some neighbourhood schools could have some top scorers, which is not that difficult given the current influx of FT students from China. But what about the rest of the cohorts taking the PSLE? I am not trying to be elitist or yayah, just to share my thoughts on this. Thks for reading. I agree with you. It is not the top scorer that matters. It is the percentage of the cohort that is performing well consistently. Having a top scorer can be a freak case but having a large percentage of P6 cohort doing well implies that the school system has been well-tune and robust. Scenario: School A: 1 x student with an aggregate of 285 but only 10% of the cohort achieved aggregate of 250 and above. School B: 1 x student with an aggregate of 280 but 40% of the cohort achieved at least an aggregate of 250 and above. It is anyone guess to decide which is a bettter school..... BTW, which primary school is your kid attending? THe one at Clementi? Edited January 18, 2010 by Rayleigh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zniper 2nd Gear January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 I don;t get your message. What is the Gist of your post? I read 3 times..still no head no tail. For me.. neighborhood schools is bad not because grades but the quality of the students - many come from lousy families, ahbeng father, uneducated parents, these low quality classmates is bad./..... u tink top schs no ah bengs or broken families?? most importantly is how u teach ur children... sad to say but most of ppl out there now tink tat sch is liable for their children's behaviour whereas in fact, parents play the most impt role in their children's life!!! as a matter of fact, most overlook tis little yet impt issue... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vooth 2nd Gear January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 the most impt lesson i learned from my primary school was how to survive the constant harrassment of the primary 8 students... who looks 20 times bigger because of the onset of puberty. priceless. Must be you go kachiau them la Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkingidiot 1st Gear January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 Whilst conventional thinking is to do extremely well in exams and try and get high 280s etc for PSLE, I would advocate another line of thinking. Singaporeans have got to get out of this "must score well in exams" way of thinking. Exam results, whilst important, are not the end all and be all of life. What is more important is that whilst the child does well in exams (hopefully 210-260) and get into a relatively good sec school in terms of academic, the child should also be all rounded - ie. healthy in sports and CCAs, and confident of oneself and abilities. These are not found in the books or examinable subjects - but actively socialising with other kids, and participating in CCAs and other awareness raising out of school curriculum, like going for hikes, learning 1st hand about nature, swimming for fun, going to old folks and disabled homes (even if too young to help, just accompanying parents and observng them will instill good values in the kids). At the end of the day... this well rounded kid will tend to handle life's stresses better, do better at work and even achieve better results in future exams in sec school or higher. Thus, in a way I agree with the TS - not need to move house to get the kid into singapore's top primary school... but look around the neighbourhood for those gems.. schools that provide a more holistic education rather than just concentrate on getting the top PSLE results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiphiphoray 6th Gear January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 PSLE results are usually represented in terms of A & A* percentage in the 4 examinable subjects. Only those schools that do well dare show this statistic in thier website. Many schools does not show this for obvious reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcopa 1st Gear January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 It is kind of sad to judge a person by their Academic results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 So it could be that some neighbourhood schools could have some top scorers, which is not that difficult given the current influx of FT students from China. But what about the rest of the cohorts taking the PSLE? I am not trying to be elitist or yayah, just to share my thoughts on this. Thks for reading. you mean the above statement not a sour grape comment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh 6th Gear January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 (edited) Mistake in reply Edited January 18, 2010 by Rayleigh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtravagant Clutched January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 It is kind of sad to judge a person by their Academic results. i second that. . . based on the people that i've come across in my daily life. . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWbarb 1st Gear January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 i really dunno wat our society will become 20 years down the road... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcopa 1st Gear January 18, 2010 Share January 18, 2010 i really dunno wat our society will become 20 years down the road... U need to have a degree to be a bus driver ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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