Bluepica 4th Gear April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 Scenario:- keppel viaduct towards TB exit. lane 3 long queue slow moving vehicle, maybe about 50km/h. If I slowly cut in slightly before reaching the exit, does that consider as jumping queue? (no double line and far before reaching the chevron) ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 Scenario:- keppel viaduct towards TB exit. lane 3 long queue slow moving vehicle, maybe about 50km/h. If I slowly cut in slightly before reaching the exit, does that consider as jumping queue? (no double line and far before reaching the chevron) Lane three = going straight or dedicated turning lane? I tink that lane is dedicated turning lane right? My opinion? If merge while heavy vehicles are still coming out then not queue jumping, if merge after is clear that all vehicles are turning then a little bit dubious, but onmly queue jumping if you have to force your way in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh Neutral Newbie April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 I dunno if classifying this as queue-jumping will do anything to stop people from doing it. Anyway, this is what I saw which happened to one guy trying to pull a similar stunt. Place: Mandai Rd exit to BKE, Time: some time around 6pm Date: 2~3 days ago (old already..cannot remember) Car 1 (Red Mazda 5) use lane 2 to jump queue in lane 3 all the way to the entrance to BKE Car 1 try to force into the entrance without signalling; Car 2 (Avante) did not stop in time; Car 1 bang onto Car 2; Car 1 + Car 2 blocked the entire filter lane entrance; Lane 3 jam lagi worse....... You decide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepica 4th Gear April 20, 2010 Author Share April 20, 2010 Lane three = going straight or dedicated turning lane? I tink that lane is dedicated turning lane right? My opinion? If merge while heavy vehicles are still coming out then not queue jumping, if merge after is clear that all vehicles are turning then a little bit dubious, but onmly queue jumping if you have to force your way in. Dedicated turn arrow starts about 200m away, but queue is further than that... this is just a scenario at this location. It also applicable to other situation as well, what is consider "filtering in" or "queue jumping". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnoh81 Neutral Newbie April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 Gilgamesh i think u are referring to mandai entrance to BKE right? That is a hotspot where accidents always happen cos ppl jump queue. My safest option is, use lane 1, then at jam area where everyone is cutting into lane 3, you cut into lane 2. finally at traffic light, turn left, where you are not supposed to! whoolah, go up to BKE! Pls don't report me! just my recommendation! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon 1st Gear April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 I think deep down inside your conscience will tell you....no need to ask Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamstart 1st Gear April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 I think deep down inside your conscience will tell you....no need to ask This one is a good one. If you think you are correct, you will never admit you are wrong, just like Q jumping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metblue Neutral Newbie April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 Gilgamesh i think u are referring to mandai entrance to BKE right? That is a hotspot where accidents always happen cos ppl jump queue. My safest option is, use lane 1, then at jam area where everyone is cutting into lane 3, you cut into lane 2. finally at traffic light, turn left, where you are not supposed to! whoolah, go up to BKE! Pls don't report me! just my recommendation! This is worse than queue cutting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnoh81 Neutral Newbie April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 Yes i admit that has been bad ... actually the best option is to: 1. Go on lane 1 2. U-turn on u-turn area after traffic light 3. approaching traffic light turn right up to BKE the other alternative 1. Go staight along along mandai road 2. turn left at woodlands road 3. go straight again and go up KJE/BKE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltplussport Turbocharged April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 Gilgamesh i think u are referring to mandai entrance to BKE right? That is a hotspot where accidents always happen cos ppl jump queue. My safest option is, use lane 1, then at jam area where everyone is cutting into lane 3, you cut into lane 2. finally at traffic light, turn left, where you are not supposed to! whoolah, go up to BKE! Pls don't report me! just my recommendation! I used to do that when travelling there, but heard from my friend she got caught doing that. After her's incident, I will go straight and do a U turn, and do a right turn onto BKE. Lagi faster than going into queue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnoh81 Neutral Newbie April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 yes colt u are so right. the last time i use that way got TP station there. heng always keep a lookout b4 turning. cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kia0042 2nd Gear April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 I dunno if classifying this as queue-jumping will do anything to stop people from doing it. Anyway, this is what I saw which happened to one guy trying to pull a similar stunt. Place: Mandai Rd exit to BKE, Time: some time around 6pm Date: 2~3 days ago (old already..cannot remember) Car 1 (Red Mazda 5) use lane 2 to jump queue in lane 3 all the way to the entrance to BKE Car 1 try to force into the entrance without signalling; Car 2 (Avante) did not stop in time; Car 1 bang onto Car 2; Car 1 + Car 2 blocked the entire filter lane entrance; Lane 3 jam lagi worse....... You decide. talking about this mandai road exit to bke, is it not confusing some road users? the slip road to bke has been widen to 2 lanes last year but mandai road still only allow lane 3 vehicles to turn left. the arrow on lane 3 should paint left turn traffic only and lane 2 should change to left turn and go straight traffic. btw, what is Q-jumping/cutting? my personal view, as long as you casue the vehicle behind you to step on his brake, it's consider q-cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leepee 1st Gear April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 Is there is no crossing of double-white line, then its not queue jumping. Perhaps just a annoying late lane changing move, that will irritate other drivers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karu 6th Gear April 20, 2010 Share April 20, 2010 No sign at the side of the road indicating that u muz q... Not like human q where signs indicate where the q starts... So not wrong to cut in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1234 1st Gear April 21, 2010 Share April 21, 2010 Just go up and do a U-turn la..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_lover Supercharged April 21, 2010 Share April 21, 2010 I think deep down inside your conscience will tell you....no need to ask there are many ppl with no intergrity, no concscience and even less shame. they consider it an achievement dat they can save a lot of time when jump queue. They probably view those motorist who queue properly as stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggt Clutched April 21, 2010 Share April 21, 2010 To see queue cutting at its peak, try going to ECP towards Changi from west coast highway during evening, vehicles from VIVO/Harbour Front trying their luck to cut thru three lanes just to enter ECP with west coast highway traffic trying to cut to the left towards railway station/tanjong pagar. Explaining this already cost me headache and I am facing this on a daily basis. There is one question that is always on my mind, why can't those vehicles from harbour front/VIVO enter the ECP thru Shenton Way? Isn't it faster then having 5 lanes squeezing into the two-merge-into-one lane entrance before railway station? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren_Hao Clutched April 21, 2010 Share April 21, 2010 Scenario:- keppel viaduct towards TB exit. lane 3 long queue slow moving vehicle, maybe about 50km/h. If I slowly cut in slightly before reaching the exit, does that consider as jumping queue? (no double line and far before reaching the chevron) Still need to ask meh........... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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