Cwx7978589 Neutral Newbie August 19, 2011 Author Share August 19, 2011 hi, duno knowif u still rem me as kzy... lols.. fix the VS on. it's gd to have lesser crank after the 1st start of the car... everything seems fine... enought electric power to stable the whole car now. worth the price to buy this rather den the replica pivot VS.. =D James Hi, James . sure rem u (always want exchange u pivot with me) hehe thanks bro ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadataboo Neutral Newbie August 20, 2011 Share August 20, 2011 I am keen. How much is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameske Neutral Newbie August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 hahas! but u have a good VS there... works fine now... much better den the pivot...=) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satria_neo Clutched August 21, 2011 Share August 21, 2011 Hi, James . sure rem u (always want exchange u pivot with me) hehe thanks bro Seriously, Pviot VSD (the blue colour one) is crap. Its basically just 4 x 4700uF capacitors and they are selling a a crazy price. I have not tried TS's VS but from what I have seen on the picture, I can see its a pretty good VS. There are several capacitors of difference values to cover for various frequencies in voltage fluctuations/ripples/noise etc.... The big ones cater for low frequencies which small ones cater for high frequencies. There is quite alot of arguments regarding purpose of VS blah blah.... I will just say this. A car will function properly w/o VS definitely. However, a well designed VS will improve its efficiency. Clean power with minimal noise is good for all things. Hifi equipment are particularly sensitive to power. You will see how much $$$ people actually spend on power filters etc for their home hifi equipment and it does affect sound quality. your Air flow sensor, O2 sensor etc all depends on changes in voltage to determine the readings and all these devices are affected by voltage fluctuations. The only downside of the VS (not just what TS is sellling but literally all VS out there) are the electrolytic capacitors. They have a pretty limited lifespan compared to other capacitors (eg. Tantalum caps) and they are more susceptible to heat because heat will increase the dissipation of the electrolyte (the liquid inside the capacitor). Of course, they should still last a few years easily but don't expect it to last 10-20yrs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuelsaver Supercharged August 22, 2011 Share August 22, 2011 how to test / know if capacitors are / aren't working? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic August 22, 2011 Share August 22, 2011 Seriously, Pviot VSD (the blue colour one) is crap. Its basically just 4 x 4700uF capacitors and they are selling a a crazy price. I have not tried TS's VS but from what I have seen on the picture, I can see its a pretty good VS. There are several capacitors of difference values to cover for various frequencies in voltage fluctuations/ripples/noise etc.... The big ones cater for low frequencies which small ones cater for high frequencies. There is quite alot of arguments regarding purpose of VS blah blah.... I will just say this. A car will function properly w/o VS definitely. However, a well designed VS will improve its efficiency. Clean power with minimal noise is good for all things. Hifi equipment are particularly sensitive to power. You will see how much $$$ people actually spend on power filters etc for their home hifi equipment and it does affect sound quality. your Air flow sensor, O2 sensor etc all depends on changes in voltage to determine the readings and all these devices are affected by voltage fluctuations. The only downside of the VS (not just what TS is sellling but literally all VS out there) are the electrolytic capacitors. They have a pretty limited lifespan compared to other capacitors (eg. Tantalum caps) and they are more susceptible to heat because heat will increase the dissipation of the electrolyte (the liquid inside the capacitor). Of course, they should still last a few years easily but don't expect it to last 10-20yrs. Someone ask, why put capacitors or VS on the battery ? Are you trying to filter noise from getting into the battery ? If you're trying to filter noise, the capacitors would be best located at the source of the device, like HU, ecu..etc..and not placed at the battery. Wires picked up stray capacitance anyways. Battery might actually benefit from pulsing charge (no capacitors), since it is somewhat like a desulphating action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satria_neo Clutched August 22, 2011 Share August 22, 2011 (edited) Someone ask, why put capacitors or VS on the battery ? Are you trying to filter noise from getting into the battery ? If you're trying to filter noise, the capacitors would be best located at the source of the device, like HU, ecu..etc..and not placed at the battery. Wires picked up stray capacitance anyways. Battery might actually benefit from pulsing charge (no capacitors), since it is somewhat like a desulphating action. Why put at the battery? Thats because its the most accessible place and its connected in parallel with the alternator. As for pulsing charge, not the alternator does not provide any form pulsing charge at all. It only has lots of noise. Desulphating has to be done as high frequency pulses of current going into the battery. Edited August 22, 2011 by Satria_neo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwx7978589 Neutral Newbie September 4, 2011 Author Share September 4, 2011 (edited) hahas! but u have a good VS there... works fine now... much better den the pivot...=) thanks bro, i went to thailand last two week.hehe Edited September 4, 2011 by Cwx7978589 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuan 6th Gear September 4, 2011 Share September 4, 2011 Seriously, Pviot VSD (the blue colour one) is crap. Its basically just 4 x 4700uF capacitors and they are selling a a crazy price. I have not tried TS's VS but from what I have seen on the picture, I can see its a pretty good VS. There are several capacitors of difference values to cover for various frequencies in voltage fluctuations/ripples/noise etc.... The big ones cater for low frequencies which small ones cater for high frequencies. There is quite alot of arguments regarding purpose of VS blah blah.... I will just say this. A car will function properly w/o VS definitely. However, a well designed VS will improve its efficiency. Clean power with minimal noise is good for all things. Hifi equipment are particularly sensitive to power. You will see how much $$$ people actually spend on power filters etc for their home hifi equipment and it does affect sound quality. your Air flow sensor, O2 sensor etc all depends on changes in voltage to determine the readings and all these devices are affected by voltage fluctuations. The only downside of the VS (not just what TS is sellling but literally all VS out there) are the electrolytic capacitors. They have a pretty limited lifespan compared to other capacitors (eg. Tantalum caps) and they are more susceptible to heat because heat will increase the dissipation of the electrolyte (the liquid inside the capacitor). Of course, they should still last a few years easily but don't expect it to last 10-20yrs. I had a pivot VS before and it takes up much of my battery power. Dekit it and surprisingly sold it away for a good price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bystander50 5th Gear September 4, 2011 Share September 4, 2011 (edited) how to test / know if capacitors are / aren't working? Not easy to, unless you remove 1 leg of the capacitor from the PCB and measure the capicitance. Normally we look out for physical damage as a failing capacitor. At the top or bottom, if you see it's bloated out (not flat), it means there are hydrogen venting. Anytime they capacitor can "pop". Or you see some brown substance on the capacitor or nearby area that looks like rust. It means the capacitor is leaking electrolyte. Edited September 4, 2011 by Bystander50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic September 5, 2011 Share September 5, 2011 A very simple test to see if grounding works on your car is to ground the positive side to your batt instead of the negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gwenngal27 Neutral Newbie September 9, 2011 Share September 9, 2011 im glad to be in this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuelsaver Supercharged September 9, 2011 Share September 9, 2011 Not easy to, unless you remove 1 leg of the capacitor from the PCB and measure the capicitance. Normally we look out for physical damage as a failing capacitor. At the top or bottom, if you see it's bloated out (not flat), it means there are hydrogen venting. Anytime they capacitor can "pop". Or you see some brown substance on the capacitor or nearby area that looks like rust. It means the capacitor is leaking electrolyte. Ok Thx for ur reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yc86 Clutched September 16, 2011 Share September 16, 2011 A very simple test to see if grounding works on your car is to ground the positive side to your batt instead of the negative. :D nice one those who think their grounding can be improved shd try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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