Satria_neo Clutched July 31, 2011 Share July 31, 2011 http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?autoco...p;product=20324 Decide to change my cables since they have not been replaced since the previous owner. Also to see if the claims is really true or some snake oil stuff. the person also claimed that the new Proton Gen2 will be using their cables starting in August. Initial view of it is noticeable I have to say. Its not day and night difference but its noticeable. The pick up is slightly better and engine revs faster at WOT. I am able to shift earlier. Previously, I have to shift to 5th gear at 50KM/H min or engine will vibrate and lack of power. Now, I can manage it at slightly over 40KM/H w/o having the vibration. Perhaps the feeling is similar to having brand new oil or spark plugs. Btw, my plugs are just 1 week old and they are Bosch IR Fusion. Engine oil is less than 1000KM using Amsoil Signature 10W30. To be sure, I swap back the original cables and then back again. Yes, its confirmed that there is a difference. No top speed test done as I need to go NSHW to try it out. Construction wise, its pretty standard aftermarket stuff with silicone insulation and rubber boots. The silicone insulation is a good thing since its more lasting than pure rubber insulation. For $120, I must say its quite a decent replacement since a new set of OEM cables will also cost ~$100. I will test the cables further. I am just guessing it does not have a built-in resistors (standard OEM wires will have it) for noise suppression. Hence its able to create a stronger spark. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuan 6th Gear July 31, 2011 Share July 31, 2011 (edited) http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?autoco...p;product=20324 Decide to change my cables since they have not been replaced since the previous owner. Also to see if the claims is really true or some snake oil stuff. the person also claimed that the new Proton Gen2 will be using their cables starting in August. Initial view of it is noticeable I have to say. Its not day and night difference but its noticeable. The pick up is slightly better and engine revs faster at WOT. I am able to shift earlier. Previously, I have to shift to 5th gear at 50KM/H min or engine will vibrate and lack of power. Now, I can manage it at slightly over 40KM/H w/o having the vibration. Perhaps the feeling is similar to having brand new oil or spark plugs. Btw, my plugs are just 1 week old and they are Bosch IR Fusion. Engine oil is less than 1000KM using Amsoil Signature 10W30. To be sure, I swap back the original cables and then back again. Yes, its confirmed that there is a difference. No top speed test done as I need to go NSHW to try it out. Construction wise, its pretty standard aftermarket stuff with silicone insulation and rubber boots. The silicone insulation is a good thing since its more lasting than pure rubber insulation. For $120, I must say its quite a decent replacement since a new set of OEM cables will also cost ~$100. I will test the cables further. I am just guessing it does not have a built-in resistors (standard OEM wires will have it) for noise suppression. Hence its able to create a stronger spark. Thanks for sharing. Is your mileage due enough for cable replacement? Edited July 31, 2011 by Yuan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satria_neo Clutched July 31, 2011 Author Share July 31, 2011 Thanks for sharing. Is your mileage due enough for cable replacement? Cause the car has around 92K. So I am thinking might as well change the cable. The insulation still looks good though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5936 1st Gear July 31, 2011 Share July 31, 2011 My mechanic friend gave me this golden advice: "Nothing wrong dont change. Once you started changing, it cant be stopped" There are some truth in it. Ignition cables last very long. Very low wear & tear. Unless insulation damaged by heat, mechanical damage from bad handling or mounting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satria_neo Clutched July 31, 2011 Author Share July 31, 2011 My mechanic friend gave me this golden advice: "Nothing wrong dont change. Once you started changing, it cant be stopped" There are some truth in it. Ignition cables last very long. Very low wear & tear. Unless insulation damaged by heat, mechanical damage from bad handling or mounting. Lol I agreed. Thats why I don't really do much to my car. Limit myself to just 1 gadget a month. Last month is spark plugs so this month is cables lor. Next month is going to be belts and fuel filter. If not it can really get addictive and go out of hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5936 1st Gear July 31, 2011 Share July 31, 2011 Once a month you say a little. For me that is a lot already. Better save your money for something else. I used to change this and that many years ago. Until mechanic also cannot tehan, and advised me. Maybe they earned enough from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigershark1976 Turbocharged July 31, 2011 Share July 31, 2011 Thanks for sharing. Is your mileage due enough for cable replacement? yap, suspected the same thing... unless the original cable is worn, otherwise, sparkplug cable upgrade only give marginal improvement, for my case, when I own the old 98 cateye elantra, the sparkplug gives marginal improvement at high end torque. The car pickup is faster between 140km/hr to 180km/hr... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondavvvtec 1st Gear July 31, 2011 Share July 31, 2011 will it in turn reduce the lifespan of the sparkplug as it is burning richer than the normal / original plug cable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satria_neo Clutched August 1, 2011 Author Share August 1, 2011 will it in turn reduce the lifespan of the sparkplug as it is burning richer than the normal / original plug cable Yes, it will actually. Stronger sparks will cause more wear on the plugs, esp. the ground electrode because its not that high resistant to wear unlike the center electrode. But it will still take a long long time to actually wear out your plugs. Cause stronger sparks means you can usually run a wider gap. Hence you will be less prone to misfiring as the gap widens. If it does misfire, then its time to clean and regap the plugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear August 1, 2011 Share August 1, 2011 My mechanic friend gave me this golden advice: "Nothing wrong dont change. Once you started changing, it cant be stopped" There are some truth in it. Ignition cables last very long. Very low wear & tear. Unless insulation damaged by heat, mechanical damage from bad handling or mounting. They do encounter wear and tear. Most manufacturers put a 90-100k lifespan on them. I did have restored performance when I changed mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satria_neo Clutched August 3, 2011 Author Share August 3, 2011 OK some updates. I did notice an improvement in FC. My overall FC has improved a little. Before I installed the cables it shows 8.2L/100KM. Now it has drop to 8L/100KM. I did not reset the meter after cable installation, hence the actual FC should be lower. Not too bad. Will continue to monitor to see if it will drop further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 since we are on spark plugs, when are the signs that we must change spark plugs? problems cranking? or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satria_neo Clutched August 3, 2011 Author Share August 3, 2011 since we are on spark plugs, when are the signs that we must change spark plugs? problems cranking? or what? Usually its due to misfiring. Cold start difficult is also one of the problem. Btw, if you want to save some money you can clean and regap the plugs instead of changing them. Also, if you realise then your plugs are fouled, then it may indicate an engine/fuel problem and changing plugs may not exactly help (it will only resolve it temporarily). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 Usually its due to misfiring. Cold start difficult is also one of the problem. Btw, if you want to save some money you can clean and regap the plugs instead of changing them. Also, if you realise then your plugs are fouled, then it may indicate an engine/fuel problem and changing plugs may not exactly help (it will only resolve it temporarily). lol. my WRX cannot DIY clean and regap. thats why i need to know the signs and symptoms of when to change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satria_neo Clutched August 3, 2011 Author Share August 3, 2011 lol. my WRX cannot DIY clean and regap. thats why i need to know the signs and symptoms of when to change Er... how come you can't DIY clean and regap? But for TC cars, I believe the most noticeable one would have misfiring at higher boost/RPM. Cause they are more sensitive to misfiring compared to NA cars as they have much higher dynamic compression compared to NA engine. Hence, TC cars usually run much smaller gap comapred to NA cars. Some uses CDI to resolve misfiring problem at high boost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 Er... how come you can't DIY clean and regap? But for TC cars, I believe the most noticeable one would have misfiring at higher boost/RPM. Cause they are more sensitive to misfiring compared to NA cars as they have much higher dynamic compression compared to NA engine. Hence, TC cars usually run much smaller gap comapred to NA cars. Some uses CDI to resolve misfiring problem at high boost. my spark plugs are very far inside. need workshop to take out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satria_neo Clutched August 3, 2011 Author Share August 3, 2011 my spark plugs are very far inside. need workshop to take out. Oh IC. I know its quite hard to get spark plugs out from the boxer engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 Oh IC. I know its quite hard to get spark plugs out from the boxer engine. so to prevent wasting time and money, how do i know its time to change it? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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