Caddilac Neutral Newbie August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 (edited) There's no greater cardinal sin in the automotive world than completely replacing a highly successful model with an inferior machine. According to Consumer Reports, that's precisely what happened with the 2012 Honda Civic. Says David Champion, senior director of Consumer Reports' Auto Test Center: "While other models like the Hyundai Elantra have gotten better after being redesigned, the Civic has dropped so much that now it ranks near the bottom of its category." Just how far has the Civic fallen from CR's grace? The 2012 model's 61 points is a precipitous 17-point drop from the 2011 model's score of 78. That discrepancy is enough to force the Civic out of CR's Recommended list of automobiles. The only small sedan to score lower than the Civic is the 2011 Volkswagen Jetta, which has also been widely accused of too-obvious cost cutting compared to its predecessor. Many of the Honda Civic's fiercest competitors, on the other hand, scored very well in CR's latest round of compact car tests. The aforementioned and recently redesigned 2011 Hyundai Elantra earned the top spot overall, followed closely by the 2012 Ford Focus, 2011 Chevrolet Cruze and 2011 Kia Forte hatchback. Also performing adequately but no longer considered class-leading are the Toyota Corolla, Nissan Sentra and Mazda3. http://maintenance.autoblog.com/2011/08/01...nsumer-reports/ Edited August 3, 2011 by Caddilac ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babyt 4th Gear August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 who cares about the report n ranking? ppl dont buy car based on these reports actually lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 Civic = High expectations, if turn out less dan desirable, it becomes a high disappointment. Elantra = All along disappointing, suddenly turn out so good. Ta da! Big surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 Civic = High expectations, if turn out less dan desirable, it becomes a high disappointment. Elantra = All along disappointing, suddenly turn out so good. Ta da! Big surprise. partly true onli. the civic has been a disappointment since the EK. guess consumer patience finally has worn off and it deserves its fall from grace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin79 2nd Gear August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 Civic is probably like Nokia... a fall from grace soon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam_wong_cm Clutched August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 Civic = High expectations, if turn out less dan desirable, it becomes a high disappointment. Elantra = All along disappointing, suddenly turn out so good. Ta da! Big surprise. Jap car nows a day is call cannot make it design Korean car nows a day is Wow Wow design ... ha ha ha .. Seriously Jap need to play catch up now, else in 5 more years time they will be consider lower class than Korean car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddilac Neutral Newbie August 3, 2011 Author Share August 3, 2011 who cares about the report n ranking? ppl dont buy car based on these reports actually lol. Maybe you are the people who don't care but a lot of people who are not familiar with cars are looking at the reports... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 who cares about the report n ranking? ppl dont buy car based on these reports actually lol. There are still many people buy cars based on these type of report. But surpringingly that the report shown 2011 Hyundai Elantra earned the top spot overall, followed closely by the 2012 Ford Focus, 2011 Chevrolet Cruze and 2011 Kia Forte hatchback?! Amone the top spot, three models come from korean cars. But seeems like forte hatchback scored better than forte sedan, wonder how come? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddilac Neutral Newbie August 3, 2011 Author Share August 3, 2011 There are still many people buy cars based on these type of report. But surpringingly that the report shown 2011 Hyundai Elantra earned the top spot overall, followed closely by the 2012 Ford Focus, 2011 Chevrolet Cruze and 2011 Kia Forte hatchback?! Amone the top spot, three models come from korean cars. But seeems like forte hatchback scored better than forte sedan, wonder how come? I read a review and it said that the Forte Hatch handles better, offers more practicality and quieter than the sedan... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 I read a review and it said that the Forte Hatch handles better, offers more practicality and quieter than the sedan... Also read somewhere those car review, the hatchback version score higher than the sedan. I have yet to test drive the hatchback, so dont know is there any difference?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddilac Neutral Newbie August 3, 2011 Author Share August 3, 2011 Also read somewhere those car review, the hatchback version score higher than the sedan. I have yet to test drive the hatchback, so dont know is there any difference?! Definitely got difference one... Just like Mazda3 hatch and sedan, i prefer the handling of the hatch because the rear overhang is shorter so it feels more agile... The Forte is quite special bcoz the hatch is 2 years later than the sedan so they may do even more changes on it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 Definitely got difference one... Just like Mazda3 hatch and sedan, i prefer the handling of the hatch because the rear overhang is shorter so it feels more agile... The Forte is quite special bcoz the hatch is 2 years later than the sedan so they may do even more changes on it... But it seems like forte hatchback not many people buy?! Maybe also due to the high COE price la, even the facelift forte sedan also not many on the road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babyt 4th Gear August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 maybe many forte owners here dont read the reports thus buy wrong model, sedan instead of hatch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 maybe many forte owners here dont read the reports thus buy wrong model, sedan instead of hatch. Maybe most people would prefer a sedan than hatch due to space?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddilac Neutral Newbie August 3, 2011 Author Share August 3, 2011 But it seems like forte hatchback not many people buy?! Maybe also due to the high COE price la, even the facelift forte sedan also not many on the road. High COE maybe one problem but another problem is that Asian prefer sedan to hatchback... Sedan looks bigger than the hatchback as well and they cost almost the same so most people will choose a bigger one... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddilac Neutral Newbie August 3, 2011 Author Share August 3, 2011 Maybe most people would prefer a sedan than hatch due to space?! Asian prefer space to practicality... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 Space to practicality, i thought the same?! Usually asian prefer their cars to be practical and big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendstar Supercharged August 3, 2011 Share August 3, 2011 maybe many forte owners here dont read the reports thus buy wrong model, sedan instead of hatch. Pls don't argue for the sake of arguing ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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