Territorial claims in South China Sea

[Beregond]

Got use meh? China take the ruling to wipe backside only.

Its like china ask his kakis form a court,

and make a claim that manila belong to them, 

and ask pinoy to go to that court to settle.

 

then beijing issue a statement that even if they win, they willing to share manila with pinoy

[Baal]

Is this report right?

Singapore's Foreign Minister is Vivian Balakrishnan and not K. Shanmugam!!

Just googled. I think ur right.

[Bystander50]

China already say that they will ignore the verdict when it was put up for arbitration without it's "blessing"

 

 

If it is ruled to China's favour and they say they'll ignore it, does that mean the ATs are giving up their claims and give it to PH?

[Kusje]

Is this report right?

Singapore's Foreign Minister is Vivian Balakrishnan and not K. Shanmugam!!

 

Article is from donkey months ago lor....  2012.

If it is ruled to China's favour and they say they'll ignore it, does that mean the ATs are giving up their claims and give it to PH?

 

Ignore leh.... They didn't say they will do opposite of what the tribunal says.

Edited July 12, 2016 by Kusje

[Wishcumstrue]

The Hague just announced its judgement -

 

Almost All the claims made by the Philippines against China is accepted by the tribute.

 

ST Breaking News header says

 

China has no historic rights to resources in sea areas within 'nine-dash line': Arbitral tribunal ruling

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/no-legal-basis-for-china-to-claim-historic-rights-to-resources-in-sea-areas-within-nine

 

In a landmark ruling on Tuesday (July 12), an arbitral tribunal concluded that there was no legal basis for China to claim historic rights to resources within the sea areas falling within its "nine-dash line".

"Although Chinese navigators and fishermen, as well as those of other States, had historically made use of the islands in the South China Sea, there was no evidence that China had historically exercised exclusive control over the waters or their resources," the tribunal said in a 497-page ruling.

"The Tribunal concluded that there was no legal basis for China to claim historic rights to resources within the sea areas falling within the ‘nine-dash line’.''

 

Edited July 12, 2016 by Wishcumstrue

[Kusje]

Its like china ask his kakis form a court,

and make a claim that manila belong to them, 

and ask pinoy to go to that court to settle.

 

then beijing issue a statement that even if they win, they willing to share manila with pinoy

 

5 judges.

 

1 appointed by PH.

4 appointed by a Japanese

 

No surprise on the verdict?

[Wishcumstrue]

The Hague just announced its judgement -

 

Almost All the claims made by the Philippines against China is accepted by the tribute.

 

ST Breaking News header says

 

China has no historic rights to resources in sea areas within 'nine-dash line': Arbitral tribunal ruling

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/no-legal-basis-for-china-to-claim-historic-rights-to-resources-in-sea-areas-within-nine

 

In a landmark ruling on Tuesday (July 12), an arbitral tribunal concluded that there was no legal basis for China to claim historic rights to resources within the sea areas falling within its "nine-dash line".

 

"Although Chinese navigators and fishermen, as well as those of other States, had historically made use of the islands in the South China Sea, there was no evidence that China had historically exercised exclusive control over the waters or their resources," the tribunal said in a 497-page ruling.

 

"The Tribunal concluded that there was no legal basis for China to claim historic rights to resources within the sea areas falling within the ‘nine-dash line’.''

 

 

Taiwan gave its own position shortly after the new release:

 

 

South China Sea ruling won't be binding on Taiwan: Premier Lin

 

TAIPEI - An international tribunal's ruling on the South China Sea disputes will not be legally binding on Taiwan, Central News Agency (CNA) reported on Tuesday (July 12), citing Premier Lin Chuan.

 

Mr Lin said Taiwan stands firm on its sovereignty claim to islands in the South China Sea, including Taiping, also known as Itu Aba.

 

"That (the ruling) will be not legally binding on us, and our stance will remain unchanged," Mr Lin said in response to reporters' questions on whether the ruling would undercut Taiwan's claims in the South China Sea.

 

His comments came just hours before the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague said that "none of the Spratly Islands is capable of generating extended maritime zones". Taiping is the largest in the Spratly islands.

 

 

[Wyfitms]

Is this report right?

Singapore's Foreign Minister is Vivian Balakrishnan and not K. Shanmugam!!

I think the same reported who mixed up shanmugam and tharman is still working in ST

[Beregond]

Power vacuum after WWII was a time to rewrite all the rules and introduce a new world order. That was what US, UK and USSR did the most between 1942 and 1945. Asia still stupidly fighting their own local wars.

ya the outcome of south china sea is more then just the $$ oil gas fishes.

its telling and showing the world, that china is able to stand up to uncle sam or not?

the days when there is only 1 big boss around is over,??

there is alot more at stake for the western powers

 

failure to even secure south china sea, which china claim its their , mean there is even lesser chance of taking back tawian??

which have the backing of US also. 

[Wt_know]

for once PRC dua kee !!! lol

[Wishcumstrue]

5 judges.

 

1 appointed by PH.

4 appointed by a Japanese

 

No surprise on the verdict?

 

Sounds like a kangaroo court to me...

 

 

Judge Shunji Yanai, president of the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (Itlos), had appointed the last three members of the panel.

 

https://www.itlos.org/the-tribunal/members/judge-shunji-yanai/

Judge Shunji Yanai

 

Born: Tokyo, Japan, 15 January 1937.

Member of the Tribunal since 1 October 2005; re-elected as from 1 October 2014; President of the Tribunal 2011-2014

Education: LL.B. Faculty of Law, University of Tokyo (1961).

Professional Experience: Ministry of Foreign Affairs (1961–2002): Director, International Conventions Division (1976–1977), Director, Legal Affairs Division (1977–1978)

 

[BanCoe]

5 judges.

 

1 appointed by PH.

4 appointed by a Japanese

 

No surprise on the verdict

i am not sure of the Country of Origin of the Judges ; but being international judges and I am sure reputed ones too and unbiased views  - and they must have done due diligence too ;  they won't go on a "pakat" spree; China has to find better excuses ; The judges know too well that they are open to rebuttals from any nation if done not fairly   

Edited July 12, 2016 by BanCoe

[Count-Bracula]

Is the area officially South China Sea all this while?

[Evillusion]

KNN....if PRC wins this case.....India will claim whole of Indian Oceans to be theirs.....hong kan liao!

[Toothiewabbit]

KNN....if PRC wins this case.....India will claim whole of Indian Oceans to be theirs.....hong kan liao!

India craim Indian Oceans.....Johor craim Straits of Johor??

[Evillusion]

India craim Indian Oceans.....Johor craim Straits of Johor??

Saudi claims Arabian Sea.....Bengali claims Sea of Bengal......

[BanCoe]

KNN....if PRC wins this case.....India will claim whole of Indian Oceans to be theirs.....hong kan liao!

Yeap-  if they want to muscle all the way to Bali and Majapahit kingdoms and even Sang Nila Utama was an Indian prince (i think so if I am not wrong) but they have not as yet flexed their muscles ; maybe now they might - don't know if oil is the issue or fishing the real  issue, maritime for China.... or just want to stylo Milo against US... . so many ulterior motives nowadays in people - so complex unlike the good old days

Edited July 12, 2016 by BanCoe

[Toothiewabbit]

Saudi claims Arabian Sea.....Bengali claims Sea of Bengal......ðððð...we claim Straits Times...

And Bermuda can have their Bermuda Triangle [laugh]