Questions: Is he earning above his level?

[Nutsack]

Before anyone asks, not me. But someone I know personally. And would like to see whether my opinion coincides with everyone else's. Will reveal my opinion at a later time so as not to influence perspectives of replies. :)

 

Info is as accurate as I can rem. Let's assume I didn't rem wrongly. My question is right at the end.

 

Personal stats:

- Male

- Age: 30

- Married

- Singaporean

 

Academic background:

- Top AU uni education

- Undergrad finance

- Masters in Economics

- Both 2nd Upper Hons

- Five years overseas

- Straight A student from poly onwards

 

Personality:

- Very well-spoken in English. Very. Extremely eloquent

- Very knowledgeable.

 

Professional experience (total 3 years of work experience) - most recent placed last

- {Starting after grad) 1.5 years entrepreneurial experience (partnership that closed), then...

- 1 year in managerial position in govt, then finally...

- 0.5 years in sales in financial services

 

Here comes the question. He recently was headhunted and offered a job at a US MNC here in Singapore. He was offered >$5,500/mth. It's a contracts management job (managing and supporting creation of contracts for deals by the company).

 

Does his background and credentials match the offer? Yes or No, and why.

 

As mentioned, I'll reveal my own opinion after you guys offered yours. Thanks guys! Just a non-serious discussion la. He's a very close friend of mine. Like a brother. And I feel he's a very talented person with big things yet to achieve. And I feel for him sometimes, but a little guilty that some of my recommendations to him didn't pan out for him cos I really want him to do well. So I wanna know whether I have a biased opinion or not. And he also asked me that question.

Edited April 21, 2012 by Nutsack

[Kusje]

I'm curious as to why the government would give him a managerial position after just 0.5 years doing sales. Care to share more info?

[Nutsack]

I'm curious as to why the government would give him a managerial position after just 0.5 years doing sales. Care to share more info?

 

No no.. Read carefully. It's in order.

First 1.5 years partner

Then Gahment

Then 0.5 years in sales....

 

[YellowFlash]

i think he is getting a very good pay despite his work experience of 1 + 0.5...but hes at 30 so....tat shd be fair enough..

[JackRabbit]

yeah.. I think the pay is alright...

[Longg8]

his so called working experience (very short) doesnt appeal to me at all.

 

i definitely wont pay 5.5k for the fact that i really do not know what his niche is....

 

masters in economics and was doing sales in bank for 6mths? headhunted? hmmmm

[Vyeo]

Surprised about the managerial position in the civil service. As far as I know, even scholarship holders do not get placed into managerial positions upon entry into civil service. What was his job scope, or is the term managerial position based on his title - i.e, assistant director, etc?

 

For the record, I think the 5.5k offer ranges from good to fairly generous based on his resume.

[LoverofCar]

Part of the pay given could be due to his master degree..there are some mnc do considered that...

[TandemAssassin]

it would have been a decent wage just 4-5 years ago. but with cost of living these days, i can't say the same now.

[Maldini03]

financial sales are extremely difficult and stressful and judginig from his profile he will likely not do well in the job.

[Damienic]

it would have been a decent wage just 4-5 years ago. but with cost of living these days, i can't say the same now.

 

The wage by itself dun look high but for his amt of experience and getting this pay, it is quite high to me..

[Kiadaw]

Pay, job & title not necessary related to more or less talent. Like more handsome doesn't mean will get more pretty wife.

 

Its not like sport where good & bad is clear, but even sports have degree of variables, so lousy team can sometimes win better team, but usually one off.

 

Why bother to crack your mind over this?

[Mllcg]

quite ok what.

 

5.5k gross

[Chucky2007]

his so called working experience (very short) doesnt appeal to me at all.

 

i definitely wont pay 5.5k for the fact that i really do not know what his niche is....

 

masters in economics and was doing sales in bank for 6mths? headhunted? hmmmm

 

Don't doubt leh.. Anything also possible.. My wife got MBA also not some big shot but working as small fly in operations... So it's individual choice

[RadX]

First thought, was another corkroach thread......

 

IMO, pretty high. but considering the masters, then the pay is about fair

[Good-Carbuyer]

Before anyone asks, not me. But someone I know personally. And would like to see whether my opinion coincides with everyone else's. Will reveal my opinion at a later time so as not to influence perspectives of replies. :)

 

Info is as accurate as I can rem. Let's assume I didn't rem wrongly. My question is right at the end.

 

Personal stats:

- Male

- Age: 30

- Married

- Singaporean

 

Academic background:

- Top AU uni education

- Undergrad finance

- Masters in Economics

- Both 2nd Upper Hons

- Five years overseas

- Straight A student from poly onwards

 

Personality:

- Very well-spoken in English. Very. Extremely eloquent

- Very knowledgeable.

 

Professional experience (total 3 years of work experience) - most recent placed last

- {Starting after grad) 1.5 years entrepreneurial experience (partnership that closed), then...

- 1 year in managerial position in govt, then finally...

- 0.5 years in sales in financial services

 

Here comes the question. He recently was headhunted and offered a job at a US MNC here in Singapore. He was offered >$5,500/mth. It's a contracts management job (managing and supporting creation of contracts for deals by the company).

 

Does his background and credentials match the offer? Yes or No, and why.

 

As mentioned, I'll reveal my own opinion after you guys offered yours. Thanks guys! Just a non-serious discussion la. He's a very close friend of mine. Like a brother. And I feel he's a very talented person with big things yet to achieve. And I feel for him sometimes, but a little guilty that some of my recommendations to him didn't pan out for him cos I really want him to do well. So I wanna know whether I have a biased opinion or not. And he also asked me that question.

I just wait for payday around here. Hence not good offer if really needs to work.

[Neutralsg]

1) What sort of business was he in and why did it fail?

2) Managerial job - It does not mean that a person is automatically qualified as a manager just because one is given the title especially when one does not have the training and experience of a manager

3) Sales job - A sales person's worth is easily measured by how much profits he can churn for the company

4) $5.5K for the opportunity to acquire further experience in managing and operate a dept., is not a large remuneration in today's context, however, could be an opportunity to prove he is worth much much more than what he is paid if he can be a star performer within a short time. Such post is unlikely to have quotas (being administrative and sales support rather than direct sales), unlike a sales job (regardless its industry) whereby quotas are likely to be set and therefore, easier to evaluate one's real worth.

While his work experience is nothing to shout about (at least for now), his education achievement is apparently the reason for the offer and could be an opportunity to acquire further relevant experience to enhance his future career.

Just my 2 cents.

Edited April 21, 2012 by Neutralsg

[Seaweed]

ok if we want it to be like mrt...yes...if not...i think no...unless he is legally trained...else contract management is something very specialise...he probably need some good experience...and at 5500..i don't think it is entry level...