Happily1986 5th Gear May 16, 2012 Share May 16, 2012 Not dieseling. The trembling is before I shut off the engine. Here is how it goes. Park my car, put the Gear into 'P' turn off the A/C and the rev falls and engine trembles. Then moments later, the Rev builds up again to save the stalling engine and I shut off the engine. Everything is fine when I turn off the engine while Gear is in 'N' or 'D'. But nobody will shut down engine when in Gear right. This will cause Premature failure to the GB. Alot of possibilities bro even vacuum leak is a probable cause. Suggest you go back to Kah Motor and run through their diagnostics to diagnose properly the problem. I shouldn't think you are obligated at that point in time to go for rectifications with them. Better than go in blind, change this change that, no end. Lucky if you hit the right component. Unlucky, you spend a bomb changing this and that in your quest for random troubleshooting. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickensoup 1st Gear May 17, 2012 Share May 17, 2012 Not dieseling. The trembling is before I shut off the engine. Here is how it goes. Park my car, put the Gear into 'P' turn off the A/C and the rev falls and engine trembles. Then moments later, the Rev builds up again to save the stalling engine and I shut off the engine. Everything is fine when I turn off the engine while Gear is in 'N' or 'D'. But nobody will shut down engine when in Gear right. This will cause Premature failure to the GB. For Autogear box "P" or "N" is same because it is free gear (Neutral), only "P" has a transmission lock. If it only happens on "P" and not on "N" it is really very strange. Have you tried to get your workshop to clean the throttle body? There could be some dirt built up around the throttle body butterfly that cause this problem. The mechanic will spray STP Carb Cleaner to clean up this dirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5936 1st Gear May 17, 2012 Share May 17, 2012 Pop in a bottle of redline fuel injector cleaner and let it run through a tank of fuel. It may help clean up injectors. And consider cleaning throttle throat body, with a carb cleaner spray. Thewe are the cheapest and obvious first aid remedies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickensoup 1st Gear May 17, 2012 Share May 17, 2012 Good suggestion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezouk Clutched May 17, 2012 Share May 17, 2012 Faulty air flow sensor or idling valve or map sensor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue850r Clutched May 17, 2012 Share May 17, 2012 Is Air flow sensor = MAP sensor ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Supercharged May 17, 2012 Share May 17, 2012 Is Air flow sensor = MAP sensor ? No. But they are the component that used to determine the air volume suck in by the engine using different methods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue850r Clutched May 17, 2012 Share May 17, 2012 Does both exist in one engine or it is either MAP or Air Flow sensor ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Supercharged May 17, 2012 Share May 17, 2012 As far as I know, it is either MAP or Air Flow Sensor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneStock 5th Gear May 18, 2012 Share May 18, 2012 Is Air flow sensor = MAP sensor ? no air flow is measured by MAF = mass air flow air pressure is measured by MAP = manifold air pressure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kqkhlj Clutched May 18, 2012 Share May 18, 2012 what is the best way to clean the sensors?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5936 1st Gear May 18, 2012 Share May 18, 2012 Electronic contact cleaner in spray aerosol can Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Supercharged May 18, 2012 Share May 18, 2012 If your air flow sensor is those hot wire type (very likely), make sure the cleaner is residual free and plastic friendly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfinger Neutral Newbie May 18, 2012 Author Share May 18, 2012 I just pop in a bot of Fuel injector cleaner From Redline. So far only 1 occurance After driving 130km with the injector Cleaner. Hopefully, the occurance rate Will drop to zero. Next week, will be Planning to do a TB clean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfinger Neutral Newbie May 18, 2012 Author Share May 18, 2012 Ruling out every possible fault one By one. Waiting for TB clean next week Before going on to the sensors and ICV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue850r Clutched May 19, 2012 Share May 19, 2012 Very wise step by step analysis. I have known 2 friends driving yr model. Both are into their 8th or 9th year. mileage approaching 300,000kms. Engine and GB still healthy. They are those who seldom service their car type of motorist. This car model can take a lot of abuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuan 6th Gear May 19, 2012 Share May 19, 2012 I just pop in a bot of Fuel injector cleaner From Redline. So far only 1 occurance After driving 130km with the injector Cleaner. Hopefully, the occurance rate Will drop to zero. Next week, will be Planning to do a TB clean. In my opinion, it might be a case of dirty TB. And aftermarket air intake are usually the causes of dirty TB. However, even for stock intake, cleaning of TB after a long mileage like yours may be helpful. There will also be dirt trapped in the TB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfinger Neutral Newbie May 19, 2012 Author Share May 19, 2012 Just did TB cleaning this afternoon by spraying cab cleaner directly Into the butterfly. Though not a very thorough job, hopefully Can clean the TB abit. Still monitoring the situation and will Be going to workshop for diagonise if the problem still come back ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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