Stinkray Clutched February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/cons...engine-failures ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Givechance 1st Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 Maybe those who buy German cars, are more demanding about their cars, and likely to complain about it more often. Something like, the engine is noisy, is subjective because of the super quite cabin design which allows the driver to 'hear' more of the engine. Whereas a cheaper non-German cars may have noisy cabins, that mask the sound and engine refinement disturbances, etc. Another false issue is that German cars has more engine sensors, and more willing to show the 'triangle engine warning' symbol for minor issues. Fuel quality can be a major factor in many countries, causing engine failures. This could attribute to the perception of German car engines are lousy. If its so lousy, kiasu and kiasee Singaporeans, would not be flocking to these German cars for the past few years. I would like to own a German car myself, because in Singapore context....the cars are as reliable as Japs/Koreans ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLSAMG88 1st Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 Not really surprising - Japanese cars - although souless, are reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcx607 4th Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 (edited) All along, I know about this stretegy from BMW and VW on the business car strategy. They let customers to feedback on the problems of the car and let customers to pay $$$ for the repair and maintenance of the issue. The reliability of topical temp is also a very important factor to German product. Since the German cars has top the SIN car buyer chart, let the owners...... happy paying for the maintenance. It will not change the philosophy of the German companies. Want to buy German products, live with it Edited February 13, 2013 by Tcx607 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windchoco 1st Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 Engine Reliability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 All along, I know about this stretegy from BMW and VW on the business car strategy. They let customers to feedback on the problems of the car and let customers to pay $$ for the repair and maintenance of the issue. The reliability of topical temp is also a very important factor to German product. Since the German cars has top the SIN car buyer chart, let the owners...... happy paying for the maintenance. It will not change the philosophy of the German companies. Want to buy German products, live with it errrmm....how does your theory abt german cars explain MB being ahead of Lexus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxilplix Turbocharged February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 The article is talking about engine failure, much like the comprehension failure of some posters. I wonder how many failures are due to poor/lack of maintence. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pisces69 6th Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 Maybe those who buy German cars, are more demanding about their cars, and likely to complain about it more often. Something like, the engine is noisy, is subjective because of the super quite cabin design which allows the driver to 'hear' more of the engine. Whereas a cheaper non-German cars may have noisy cabins, that mask the sound and engine refinement disturbances, etc. Another false issue is that German cars has more engine sensors, and more willing to show the 'triangle engine warning' symbol for minor issues. Fuel quality can be a major factor in many countries, causing engine failures. This could attribute to the perception of German car engines are lousy. If its so lousy, kiasu and kiasee Singaporeans, would not be flocking to these German cars for the past few years. I would like to own a German car myself, because in Singapore context....the cars are as reliable as Japs/Koreans ones. I wud think european/american cars r less reliable than jap/korean cars but conti cars usually hv better handling. Why we prefer conti? Well ty r considered more atas n since now wh high coe n price difference between them not much...pple prefer to take e more atas choice. But maintenance costs r still higher fr conti n american cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 I currently own a Honda and previously owned Toyotas as well. Whilst not trying to be pro-Japs, these cars have hardly gave me any problems I'm tempted to upgrade to Contis if I have the chance but reading this makes me think twice. My colleague who owns an Audi A4 Avant told be that his car drinks engine oil!! Has to top-up every now and then!! He also owoned a Honda before and remarked that it was much easier to upkeep the Honda but then again he has no regrets as he says the feel of an Audi is different compared to a Jap! To each his own I suppose. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vhtfhwlego Supercharged February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 Engine Reliability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKiLang 4th Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 The article is talking about engine failure, much like the comprehension failure of some posters. I wonder how many failures are due to poor/lack of maintence. Lets not be bias, your second para is a big factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 Maybe those who buy German cars, are more demanding about their cars, and likely to complain about it more often. Something like, the engine is noisy, is subjective because of the super quite cabin design which allows the driver to 'hear' more of the engine. Whereas a cheaper non-German cars may have noisy cabins, that mask the sound and engine refinement disturbances, etc. Another false issue is that German cars has more engine sensors, and more willing to show the 'triangle engine warning' symbol for minor issues. Fuel quality can be a major factor in many countries, causing engine failures. This could attribute to the perception of German car engines are lousy. If its so lousy, kiasu and kiasee Singaporeans, would not be flocking to these German cars for the past few years. I would like to own a German car myself, because in Singapore context....the cars are as reliable as Japs/Koreans ones. How can you say super quiet cabin when still hear engine sound? I think buyers of any car makes will be demanding an explanation when they engines fail prematurely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caravan 5th Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 If like what one the posters mentioned, a car drinks engine oil, and since most people never check their oil level, I can imagine a extended oil change interval can cause insufficient engine oil (esp if it has a turbo), that leads to premature failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKiLang 4th Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 Most contis are turbo-charged, most elites will not take care of their cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mllcg 3rd Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 Engine Reliability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakkwylde 5th Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 Never believe in the stats. Mazda was voted the most reliable car in the UK few years ago but they are not even in the top ten. Sometimes all these fgures just take it with a pinch of salt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windchoco 1st Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 Wat is inbetween 59~72? it just means that the probability of failure is 1 in 59 engines = 1/59 = ~1.7 % for Mitsubishi, while the rate is better for Land Rover (1 in 72 engines, lower %) According to the numbers thrown out, that also means that 1 in every 13 MG Rover will have Kaput engine. haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windchoco 1st Gear February 13, 2013 Share February 13, 2013 how come mitsubishi so low one? Cos they included Proton into the study. [laugh] Sorry to offend anyone, just couldn't resist... (I personally like Proton) ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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