Sabah, Philippines and Sulu

[Scion]

for those who are interested in a little bit of history, and the reason of the conflict happening in Sabah now

 

 

before 1917, there was this kingdom that ruled Sabah, Palawan and part of Mindanao (Philippines)

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Sulu

 

the Sulu Sultanate was annexed by the British in 1917, and later in 1963, Sabah (together with Sarawak) became part of the Federation of Malaysia

 

however, the descendants and followers of the kingdom are still claiming their territories and fighting for their ruling rights

 

[Thaiyotakamli]

This is just like a liverpool fans

 

 

 

Ooppps jk

[Macrosszero]

In this day and age, still can suka-suka draw boundaries and claim land meh?

[Karoon]

Complicated. Sometimes the best solution is no solution. Kiv until interested parties all pass away.

 

My grandfather's farm was also 'annexed' by gahmen in 1970.

Now in its place are multimillion dollar properties.

 

Wish I can just march over and make claims

 

 

 

Rip to the dead and the vat69 fellas

Edited March 3, 2013 by Karoon

[Thaiyotakamli]

In this day and age, still can suka-suka draw boundaries and claim land meh?

What i hate from sultan sulu is that he claimed the land using the name of Allah! I was like wtf!

Is he himself who want the land, kind of dictator

[Redstorm]

Very complicated issue here. The Philippines government have long ago dropped claim to Sabah and in doing so, in their own interest, it will not allow any party to claim the Sabah as part of the Sulu sultanate. Imagine having the Sulu Sultanate governing Sabah and it is going to be a threat to Philippines' security as it already have its hand full dealing with the various Muslim extremists within the country and having the Sulu Sultanate in Sabah is going to make the matter worse. With so many parties claiming to be the descendent of the sultan, it is going to be extremely difficult to prove who is the legitimate descendent let alone fight the case in the international court of law. Besides, I don't think Malaysia and Philippines will want to allow the Sulu descendents to bring the matter to the international court.

Edited March 3, 2013 by Redstorm

[Macrosszero]

Instead of one hotspot there seems to be three separate incidents. The body count is rising. Although I have little doubt that our neighbours can deal with this, I wonder how many more lives need to be lost before this insurrection is put down? It also brings into stark reality that professional soldiers and policemen can lose their lives on the job at any time.

[Try_conti]

I see the Spratly Islands in there too. They might as well send their armed men there and see if the Vietnamese or the Chinese navy is going to sit idly by and talk to them nicely .....

[WTF]

Very complicated issue here. The Philippines government have long ago dropped claim to Sabah and in doing so, in their own interest, it will not allow any party to claim the Sabah as part of the Sulu sultanate. Imagine having the Sulu Sultanate governing Sabah and it is going to be a threat to Philippines' security as it already have its hand full dealing with the various Muslim extremists within the country and having the Sulu Sultanate in Sabah is going to make the matter worse. With so many parties claiming to be the descendent of the sultan, it is going to be extremely difficult to prove who is the legitimate descendent let alone fight the case in the international court of law. Besides, I don't think Malaysia and Philippines will want to allow the Sulu descendents to bring the matter to the international court.

I thot Aquino said considering to bring the matter to the international court???

[Aimnfire]

well the compensation they got was like $2000 per annum in return for their land that was being given up

[The_Bear]

Whatever it is. Without US backing, it is not going to happen. Period.

[Shull]

I see the Spratly Islands in there too. They might as well send their armed men there and see if the Vietnamese or the Chinese navy is going to sit idly by and talk to them nicely .....

 

Exactly my thoughts.. See what the PLN is going to do to them if they try that near the PLN base at Spratly islands..

[LoverofCar]

When Singapore uphold the ASEAN spirit? Let's support bolehland le....

[Macrosszero]

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...&sec=nation

 

SEMPORNA: Several villagers in Kg Senalang beat to death a 60-year-old former Moro National Liberation Front commander who was armed with a grenade launcher and had gathered several people at a mosque on Sunday.

 

Sabah police chief Datuk Hamza Taib said the 20-odd youths, who were angry with the commander, had confronted him, took away his weapons and beat him up. The commander later died.

 

Bernama reports that in the 7am incident, the big-sized man, dressed in black and armed with a M16 rifle, was coming down a hill when he let off a few shots at the direction of the village.

 

Villager Abdul Hani Samaullah, 44, told Bernama that the man shouted: "I'm the one who shot the police last night."

 

"The man then kicked open the doors of the houses and ordered the villagers to gather at a vacant area," said Abdul Hani.

 

He said the villagers attacked the man when he squatted down to light a cigarette and put down his rifle.

 

On the situaion in Kg Simunul, Hamza said police were still ascertaining the number of people killed and injured in the shootout after Saturday night's clash with armed Sulu intruders.

 

Hamza made no mention of a hostage situation or if there was a stand-off with the gumnen.

 

The army has cordoned off the village and was co-ordinating with the police on the situation. At least six ambulances were seen at the scene.

[Neost]

Time to send their elite force in and finish every single one off.

[Doosan]

When Singapore uphold the ASEAN spirit? Let's support bolehland le....

 

support bolehland ? Why ?

 

bolehland under the US$44billion man, for decades, quietly sending them ammunutions by unmark plane directly encouraging these tugs to form islam brotherhood, hoping SE asis would become another Middle East under their religion.

 

he openly suggesting South Thailand to be autonomous by these religious groups, who explode bombs like fire crackers, similar to what pakistan is having funs with these bombs treatmnt.

 

any thing can happen under these racist & religious bigot

 

Facts hurt, but fact telling ppl to learn, any RACE who dont look back at History & learn from mistakes, these Race would nvr have FUTURE generation by generation.

[Maseratigood]

When Singapore uphold the ASEAN spirit? Let's support bolehland le....

Or, stay neutral, volunteer 梁智强 and his troop in ahBOY2men2 to be peace keeping force??

[Rncw]

i got one changping massage girl i know now in tawau ... i worry for her....