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There is a heated discussion on hardwarezone about an online petition started by a Singaporean (?) who said that Muslims in Singapore are forced to remove the Hijab in certain occupations.


But as the debate rages on, some sharp-eyed netters doubted the integrity of the online petition because the petition numbers can be inflated artificially by repetitious entries.


Do any governments in the world or any corporations in the world give a flying fark about online petitions? [grin]


Shouldn't a real petition should be signed physically with name and NRIC on paper and then hand delivered to the parties concerned? [lipsrsealed] Online petitions cheapen the cause of petitions.


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There is a heated discussion on hardwarezone about an online petition started by a Singaporean (?) who said that Muslims in Singapore are forced to remove the Hijab in certain occupations.
But as the debate rages on, some sharp-eyed netters doubted the integrity of the online petition because the petition numbers can be inflated artificially by repetitious entries.
Do any governments in the world or any corporations in the world give a flying fark about online petitions? [grin]
Shouldn't a real petition should be signed physically with name and NRIC on paper and then hand delivered to the parties concerned? [lipsrsealed] Online petitions cheapen the cause of petitions.
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Deemed as noise??

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Deemed as noise??

 

Probably in the eyes of PAP, yes, it is noise. But are there any precedents in the world that shows that online petition has a real impact by making government making u-turns on decisions? If online petitions were manipulated, how can that be representative of people's will?

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they have ear plug to filter such noise [rolleyes]

 

No need ear plugs actually cos over the years, their heads grew so big and thick it buffers their sense of hearing.

 

Otherwise, how is it that they didn't hear the ppl's plea on the over-crowded public transport and everything else? [gossip]

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No need ear plugs actually cos over the years, their heads grew so big and thick it buffers their sense of hearing.

 

Otherwise, how is it that they didn't hear the ppl's plea on the over-crowded public transport and everything else? [gossip]

 

That is because they don't take public transport. Wait, the bros here got take public transport de meh? I thot the bros here drive maseratis or lambo one? [grouphug]

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Petition is just a part of things to come. I believe the next step is that the petitioner will bring it to the news media to make it known.

 

IMO I think some jobs have a dress code to follow and not so much of a "not allowed" to wear whatever. I think ppl should behave more professionally and leave religion out of it.

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There is a heated discussion on hardwarezone about an online petition started by a Singaporean (?) who said that Muslims in Singapore are forced to remove the Hijab in certain occupations.
But as the debate rages on, some sharp-eyed netters doubted the integrity of the online petition because the petition numbers can be inflated artificially by repetitious entries.
Do any governments in the world or any corporations in the world give a flying fark about online petitions? [grin]
Shouldn't a real petition should be signed physically with name and NRIC on paper and then hand delivered to the parties concerned? [lipsrsealed] Online petitions cheapen the cause of petitions.
I don't want to embed any picture here for sensitivity reasons. If you want to see, click this link to see => http://i.imgur.com/PRcd0Q1.jpg

 

 

 

online petition is not a good indicator, unless there is proper verification of ID.

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I remember in US there is an online petition site where it verifies with the social security number of the individual.

 

If it achieves 100 000 signed, the president of US have to look into it.

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IMO I think some jobs have a dress code to follow and not so much of a "not allowed" to wear whatever. I think ppl should behave more professionally and leave religion out of it.

 

You don't know meh, there are some extremist or radical group out there whose long term plans is to make Singapore into a "religious" state, or to defunct the republic so that a merger can happen...many of these group are fund by foreign groups. I've witness a few of their now defuncted websites during the early 2000s. One of the very famous is harimau.org, obvious from our neighbours and filled with anti-singapore, racist anti-chinese articles.

 

Although they are defunct, traces of them can still be found in the internet.

 

 

Back to online petitions. I find them like those wedding invites you received from Facebook. Not sincere and they can do without you. If the petition is sincere, go offline with black and white, can participate from name and NRIC as proof.

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After their GE this year, its ultra-right newspaper posted a headline "What do the Chinese want.". Cannot deny that they often use race-supremacy to inculcate nationalism , bulk of its votes come from them. Some years ago, its youth-wing chief even waved his kiris during their annual conference. I won't be surprised the teachings they gave to the youth (if any) aim to institutionalized racial hatred.

 

I like your wedding invite analogy and you have raised a good point about sincerity.

 

 

 

You don't know meh, there are some extremist or radical group out there whose long term plans is to make Singapore into a "religious" state, or to defunct the republic so that a merger can happen...many of these group are fund by foreign groups. I've witness a few of their now defuncted websites during the early 2000s. One of the very famous is harimau.org, obvious from our neighbours and filled with anti-singapore, racist anti-chinese articles.

 

Although they are defunct, traces of them can still be found in the internet.

 

 

Back to online petitions. I find them like those wedding invites you received from Facebook. Not sincere and they can do without you. If the petition is sincere, go offline with black and white, can participate from name and NRIC as proof.

 

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The Malay marketing and PR girls in my company don't wear tudung. They drink and party like anyone of us on Friday nights. Like you said, your colleagues don the tudung, so we cannot apply our yardstick across our Malay brothers and sisters.

 

It all goes down to choices la.

 

From the start, if your company or job nature (i.e: Air stewardess?) requires you not to wear tudung, you can either abide or look at other jobs fulfill your religious obligations. But if the person was made redundant due to their religious obligations, then its a different matter. But the latter is a rare occurrence in Singapore la coz I'm sure Singaporean employers are rational enough not to use religion as a card to terminate staff.

 

 

When i look around my workplace, most of the makcik wear tudung leh. Got ban on them meh?

 

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After their GE this year, its ultra-right newspaper posted a headline "What do the Chinese want.". Cannot deny that they often use race-supremacy to inculcate nationalism , bulk of its votes come from them. Some years ago, its youth-wing chief even waved his kiris during their annual conference. I won't be surprised the teachings they gave to the youth (if any) aim to institutionalized racial hatred.

 

inspired by the Hitler-Jugend-Fahrtenmesser ? [idea]

 

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If you put ID here for online petition, most likely your name will enter into a police record of potential troublemakers.

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Zulkifiki hassan posted 4 post within 49 sec. haha

 

So it doesn't show the true reflection.

 

 

If such poll really is of any power.... Poly students would have been able enjoy same concession for public tpt similar to JC and ITE students !!!

 

Those who attended poly would have come across such petition

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