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Posted 30 October 2013 - 06:39 PM

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I had the impression that Audi cars are very reliable, I was still contemplating whether to get a Audi for the next car, but this report says otherwise, that Audi is at the bottom of the list. Failure rate is 1 in 27???

 

Is this true? how accurate are the findings???

 

http://www.mycarforu...-most-reliable/

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 08:18 PM

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I think different consumer reports different rating!

 

http://www.dailytorq...r-manufacturer/


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 08:29 PM

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how about this report [sly]

 

http://www.autospies...-Classes-39053/


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:14 PM

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I think different consumer reports different rating!

 

http://www.dailytorq...r-manufacturer/

You do realise that's in 2009?


how about this report [sly]

 

http://www.autospies...-Classes-39053/

You do realise that's in 2008?

 

You two can become buddies.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:05 PM

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You do realise that's in 2009?


You do realise that's in 2008?

 

You two can become buddies.

ohhh..sorry..should see this link in oct 2013

 

http://www.thecarcon...reliable-brands



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Posted 31 October 2013 - 01:16 AM

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You do realise that's in 2009?


You do realise that's in 2008?

 

You two can become buddies.

Do you realise they are buddies or rather "clones" ?

 

Just look at their join date.

 

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 10:42 AM

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http://www.consumerr...urvey/index.htm

 

Consumer Reports’ car reliability survey shows brands rising and falling Japanese brands still dominate, European brands gain ground, Ford flounders
Published: October 28, 2013 12:45 PM
 

Japanese car brands continue to dominate in car reliability, but brands from all corners of the globe showed movement in the latest analysis. Lexus, Toyota, and Acura claim the top three spots in predicted reliability rankings by brands. But that is not to say choosing a Japanese-branded car ensures fewer problems.

In fact, we’ve seen some Japanese brands tumble, with Subaru, Scion, and Nissan all losing several positions over last-year’s rankings. Meanwhile, Audi, having shown steady improvement in vehicle reliability during recent years, moved up four places this year to finish fourth overall—the top European carmaker in the survey. Three Audis—the A6 2.0T sedan, Q7 SUV, and Allroad wagon—have "much better than average" reliability. Volvo jumped 13 places to seventh.

Domestic brands are led by General Motors, with GMC, Buick, and Chevrolet ranking above the brands from Chrysler Corp. and Ford Motor Company. GMC is the lone domestic brand in the top 10, claiming the 9th spot. Buick is close by in 12th spot. All Buicks except the V6 LaCrosse were average or better. The only dark spots for Chevrolet are the Camaro and Cruze, both of which earned below-average reliability scores.

Despite climbing five spots to 18th, Chrysler models are still below par overall. Ram is next in line at 19th, with Jeep at 23rd and Dodge at 24th. (Because the Fiat line was limited to the 500 when the survey was conducted, we do not have sufficient models to have included that brand in the rankings. We require at least two models for this ranking.) Some of the automaker’s most reliable models, such as the Jeep Compass and Jeep Patriot SUVs, didn’t score well in our testing rendering them ineligible for a recommendation. And the better-performing Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 has fallen well below average in reliability.

Ford and Lincoln crowd the bottom, with only Mini scoring worse. These domestic brands are hampered primarily by the MyTouch infotainment systems, and some problems in versions with the V6 EcoBoost. There are problems with components associated with those heavily marketed engines, rather than the engines themselves. In-car electronics have been a challenge for other manufacturers, but we’re seeing these systems prove especially troublesome for Ford and Lincoln. As a follow-up survey revealed, there is a learning curve with advanced infotainment systems, but with the reliability survey, we’re focused strictly on serious problems that might require a trip to the dealer. And with MyTouch, the problem rate is high, partially contributing to two thirds of the 34 Fords and Lincolns in our reliability survey getting scores that were much worse than average. The F-150 pickup with the 3.7-liter V6 was the only one above average. Seven achieved an average score.

 
 
The most reliable and unreliable models
The most-reliable new car in our latest survey is the 2014 Subaru Forester. This small SUV has done great in our testing. It has excellent crash test scores. And now it is the reliability champ. A true grand slam.

The worst score goes to the Ford C-Max Energi plug-in hybrid, with the regular C-Max Hybrid not faring much better. To be clear, this should not cast a negative light on other electric cars or hybrids. In fact, the Toyota Prius, Lexus ES 300h, Toyota Prius C, and Honda CR-Z hybrids, along with the pure-electric Nissan Leaf, were among the top models in reliability. This is more of a Ford issue.

Digging into the data, there are interesting findings throughout. For example, Japanese nameplates do not always make reliable cars. The Honda Accord V6, once the paragon of reliability, has a below-average rating. And the redesigned Nissan Altima, in both four- and six-cylinder forms, is well below average and last among midsized cars.

At the other end, the high-tech, high-test-scoring Tesla Model S earned an average predicted reliability score, enabling us to formally recommend it.

For more findings, read our complete report at: consumerreports.org/reliability.

Full reliability details, broken down across 17 problem areas, can be found on the individual model pages.

 


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:05 AM

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From the way I see it, 'G' is trying to discourage people from buying conti cars.

 

Since CEO is high and their new policy kicking in Feb 2014, they need the market to shift and fall in love with the new category. (which could comprise of the asian cars with lower power)

Hey, didnt SPH bought over SGCarmart? And isnt MyCarForum is part of them....  <_<


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:23 AM

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From the way I see it, 'G' is trying to discourage people from buying conti cars.

 

Since CEO is high and their new policy kicking in Feb 2014, they need the market to shift and fall in love with the new category. (which could comprise of the asian cars with lower power)

Hey, didnt SPH bought over SGCarmart? And isnt MyCarForum is part of them....  <_<

 

Well....

 

This is the company that MCF/SGCM "journalist" Regan Ong quoted from.

 

http://www.warrantyd...r-warranty.html

 

Do bear in mind that Warranty Direct is a commercial entity first and foremost, dedicated to profit and bottom-line.  They sell warranties!  Which means they are kind of like an insurance company!

 

 

I would look at Consumer Reports for fairer and more balanced information, as their data is based on a much bigger market (USA) and numbers, and their existence is not dependent on selling any specific product, other than making market data available to the general public.

 

http://www.consumerr.../cars/index.htm

 

Consumer Reports is an American magazine published monthly by Consumers Union since 1936. It publishes reviews and comparisons of consumer products and services based on reporting and results from its in-house testing laboratory and survey research center. It also publishes cleaning and general buying guides. It has approximately 7.3 million subscribers[1] and an annual testing budget of approximately US$21 million.[2]

 

 

http://en.wikipedia....onsumer_Reports


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 11:35 AM

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Well....

 

This is the company that MCF/SGCM "journalist" Regan Ong quoted from.

 

http://www.warrantyd...r-warranty.html

 

Do bear in mind that Warranty Direct is a commercial entity first and foremost, dedicated to profit and bottom-line.  They sell warranties!  Which means they are kind of like an insurance company!

 

 

I would look at Consumer Reports for fairer and more balanced information, as their data is based on a much bigger market (USA) and numbers, and their existence is not dependent on selling any specific product, other than making market data available to the general public.

 

http://www.consumerr.../cars/index.htm

 

 

http://en.wikipedia....onsumer_Reports

 

My point is MCF choose to post a very biased article.
So many other different sources and they pick this one.

 

Why not come up with a more neutral perspective and give reference to all?

 

No offence to conti or jap cars. I have driven both sides across 5 brands in my life and none had any major problems. 
But to post this articles using the suggested title is very misleading.

As a journalist, want to cari makan also, make sure dont anyhow eat. 


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 05:34 PM

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mercedes is the best


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 12:10 AM

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My point is MCF choose to post a very biased article.
So many other different sources and they pick this one.

 

Why not come up with a more neutral perspective and give reference to all?

 

No offence to conti or jap cars. I have driven both sides across 5 brands in my life and none had any major problems. 
But to post this articles using the suggested title is very misleading.

As a journalist, want to cari makan also, make sure dont anyhow eat. 

 

I was told that Audi maintenance cost is higher than Merc due to the fact that there are less OEM parts in the market, is this true?



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

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I was told that Audi maintenance cost is higher than Merc due to the fact that there are less OEM parts in the market, is this true?


If you are telling about servicing, between merc, Bmw and Audi, merc is the most expensive. Bmw is the cheapest. My personal experience.
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Posted 04 November 2013 - 07:26 PM

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From the way I see it, 'G' is trying to discourage people from buying conti cars.

 

Since CEO is high and their new policy kicking in Feb 2014, they need the market to shift and fall in love with the new category. (which could comprise of the asian cars with lower power)

Hey, didnt SPH bought over SGCarmart? And isnt MyCarForum is part of them....  <_<

 

 

Sorry, but the ‘G’ were always for discouraging car use, it doesn’t matter where it is made, or where it is from, right?

Still it does sound fishy when the reliability report is from a firm that sell warranties and I personally would believe something more credible from a source like Consumer Reports.

 

But then again the research seems to be done in the U.S. and if I am not wrong certain models are specifically manufactured for left-hand markets, that are not available here, so perhaps that is one small factor that could have affected the results?

 

Besides it seems a little ‘exaggerated’ when you are trying to pin this on the ‘G’ along with SPH, sgCarMart and MyCarForum and by extension the blog. It’s a blog post, let’s take this with a pinch of salt, shall we?

 

The blogger is merely sharing information that he felt was interesting, with you guys, and perhaps could have done a tad more work on reliability of source or relevance to local market. Still it is an interesting read and I believe - to certain people it breaks the stereotype that anything German is top notch in quality.

 

Chillax guys…

 

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Bmw is the cheapest to maintain.
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Audi car has lots of problems. Mine is still in workshop after 3 months. Their servicing and maintanence are not done by themselves. They sub to other workshops.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 08:01 PM

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Audi car has lots of problems. Mine is still in workshop after 3 months. Their servicing and maintanence are not done by themselves. They sub to other workshops.


This is rather surprising. You are saying Premium Motors outsources the repair of the cars that they sell to third party workshops?

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 08:17 PM

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Those I am not sure. But for Audi cars that are send to Premium for repairs, they outsource it.



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If you are telling about servicing, between merc, Bmw and Audi, merc is the most expensive. Bmw is the cheapest. My personal experience.


I owned all three brands and BMW is the most expensive

Those I am not sure. But for Audi cars that are send to Premium for repairs, they outsource it.


How do you know?
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Found my car at Nissan workshop. Man in red is Nissan mechanic.

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