Workers' Party's AHPETC sees red in latest Town Council repo

[Ender]

I think collection is important, especially so for accounting.. If I have been diligently paying my share to the pantry food all these while, then one day I found out most of the collick do not pay and yet take the food, I definitely will put the fund management in task to answer why most of the people do not contribute. If if due poverty, and other stuff, then can understand. If everyone is doing well and not paying, then something had to be done.

[Count-Bracula]

Now I know what it takes to be a good tc in theneyes of pap

 

 

 

 

has to be vicious?

[Nzy]

What i take back from the article is that the KPI is definitely set on the wrong subject..

 

Bringing it into discussion which should not happen in the first place. whereas, we should be looking at the effectiveness of each TC.

 

you collect 100% money,but zhor bo lan = pointless.

 

you collect 50% money, but do many things is better.

 

As a resident in AHPETC, I do see that they completed many shits that was left behind by Mr Palmer where it took him years.

 

I feel it is alright to set collecting these money as part of the KPI. I don't think that is the only KPI they have right? If they don't collect money properly, soon word will get round and more and more people won't pay. So its better to ensure that they collect the money but of course they also must do other things la.

[Knoobie]

 

I feel it is alright to set collecting these money as part of the KPI. I don't think that is the only KPI they have right? If they don't collect money properly, soon word will get round and more and more people won't pay. So its better to ensure that they collect the money but of course they also must do other things la.

well,i feel at least we have more important things to discuss or to show the public more than the effectiveness of collecting money..

[Baal]

What i take back from the article is that the KPI is definitely set on the wrong subject..

 

Bringing it into discussion which should not happen in the first place. whereas, we should be looking at the effectiveness of each TC.

 

you collect 100% money,but zhor bo lan = pointless.

 

you collect 50% money, but do many things is better.

 

As a resident in AHPETC, I do see that they completed many shits that was left behind by Mr Palmer where it took him years.

Precisely, during my bike riding days, there was this pot hole unfilled for at least 3 good years until just before GE 2011.

 

KPI on $ collected is like a business. Just look at all the skeletons that were pulled out after they had access to those info as the new TC.

 

To set that as KPI does not even seem like a balancing act. Its strictly business.

[Etnt]

Before this article, I didn't even know about the various KPI of the town councils.

 

Have to thank the media for publicizing this so that we can have a closer look at the KPIs and think (in our personal capacity) if they make sense, and also look at possible correlation or lack of between the KPIs.

 

Like can be green in collecting S&CC and still yellow in maintenance. So does more $$$ collected == better maintenance? or that it has no correlation since AHPETC red also yellow in maintenance; and potong pasir yellow also can have green maintenance.

[Joseph22]

Before this article, I didn't even know about the various KPI of the town councils.

 

Have to thank the media for publicizing this so that we can have a closer look at the KPIs and think (in our personal capacity) if they make sense, and also look at possible correlation or lack of between the KPIs.

 

Like can be green in collecting S&CC and still yellow in maintenance. So does more $$$ collected == better maintenance? or that it has no correlation since AHPETC red also yellow in maintenance; and potong pasir yellow also can have green maintenance.

Every few month have one Leh. Everytime also say opposition party fail. Nothing special

[Etnt]

Every few month have one Leh. Everytime also say opposition party fail. Nothing special

 

I staying in AHPETC, wether they pass/fail in the basic maintenance of the estate compared to Palmer days can see for myself.

 

More of such TC KPI, last time not aware one (though it has been there always). Have to thank the media now for bringing it to the limelight.

Edited November 21, 2013 by Etnt

[Sabian]

Don't talk c0ck lah, if this trend of arrears continues on, sooner or later, TC sure run into problems.

 

If they don't arrest this trend, it will only make those who pay on time look like fools. Pretty soon, no one will be paying on time.

 

Folks in MCF must have heard this comment "Got money buy car, no money pay for parking coupon?" before?

 

Got money buy house, no money pay conservancy?

Edited November 21, 2013 by Sabian

[Albeniz]

What are the proper channels to donate money to Aljunied?

[2BDriver]

What are the proper channels to donate money to Aljunied?

Me too would like to know of any programs organizing for such purposes.

If you have find out, kindly share among us here.

[Bystander50]

Every few month have one Leh. Everytime also say opposition party fail. Nothing special

 

I worry when the papies town councils are in red.

 

Anyway, no independent groups to verify the claims. However, it just shows that AHPETC does have a heart when collect errands from the residents, some of whom may be truly unable to afford.

 

On the other hand, I'm very very surprised the old folks at Chinatown and Tanjong Pagar are able to afford the S&C.

 

Anyone knows what is S&CC collectible?

More than 50% overdue for more than 3 months TC still functioning, means no need right?

So can ask to scrap this part of payment?

 

Not just in AHPE, but ALL TC.

 

Also, how can collection of payment be included in rating.

Should change it to " Effective use of fund " I think better.

 

Never collect the $, how the town council invest (opps lose) in bonds?

That's why they must have 101% collection monthly to recover the $ lost in investments.

[Bystander50]

Known facts that MIW are excel in collecting money or rather squeeze money...no one like to delay payment unless needed...or having difficulty to pay....in some way..it show WP is more forgiving in collecting... as long it doesn't affect the running of the town council...

 

Not forgetting, they can do a better job with cheaper S&C collected.

[Joseph22]

 

I staying in AHPETC, wether they pass/fail in the basic maintenance of the estate compared to Palmer days can see for myself.

 

More of such TC KPI, last time not aware one (though it has been there always). Have to thank the media now for bringing it to the limelight.

Last time also have yearly have one. Also got report. But last time Mcf not so many ppl post this sort of news nia lah. This sort see title Liao will just flip over one.

[Jman888]

What are the proper channels to donate money to Aljunied?

 

why not write to LTK and ask if they need donation? I bet he will take it as an insult.

[ShepherdPie]

No matter how i see it..

 

To allow some residents to arrear their S&CC for extended amount of time should not be view as an act of charity..

 

How could AHPETC use the $$ that does not belong to them to exercise charity ?! .. this really puzzle me.

 

If AHPETC really wanted to help these poor residents, then they shld have help these resident to get help from varies agencies so that these poor resident no longer arrear their S&CC. As the S&CC $$ does not belong to AHPETC, they have no rights to allow it to be used for such purpose.

 

AHPETC has failed to accounted for the $$ collected or not collected.. I hate to think that I am subsidies my neighbours' holiday because he decided that it's okay to arrear his S&CC since the TC does not put in effort to collect.

 

Also given that AHPETC does not put in effort (cost) into collection, that may be reason why they are able to operate at a lower cost..

[Ender]

No matter how i see it..

 

To allow some residents to arrear their S&CC for extended amount of time should not be view as an act of charity..

 

How could AHPETC use the $$ that does not belong to them to exercise charity ?! .. this really puzzle me.

 

If AHPETC really wanted to help these poor residents, then they shld have help these resident to get help from varies agencies so that these poor resident no longer arrear their S&CC. As the S&CC $$ does not belong to AHPETC, they have no rights to allow it to be used for such purpose.

 

AHPETC has failed to accounted for the $$ collected or not collected.. I hate to think that I am subsidies my neighbours' holiday because he decided that it's okay to arrear his S&CC since the TC does not put in effort to collect.

 

Also given that AHPETC does not put in effort (cost) into collection, that may be reason why they are able to operate at a lower cost..

Fully agree. It's like the pantry committee example I gave previously. The committee has the responsibility to ensure everyone pays their due. How would those who paid feels when their fellow collick are not paying and still leeching food from pantry. Giving a free ride once or twice is ok, but long term is not good for any relationship/

[Xers007]

coming to lift maintenance... my TC should be given triple red... the breakdown rate is like over the top, even a 10yrs old lift at my old place serves more reliable than my blk 3yrs+ lift... pui...