Darryn Turbocharged January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 And in a case of irony - she lists her location as "prozac city" ... Seriously, I think your niece should read Alan Shadrake's book. Might change her mind or at least soften her stance. Oh wait, that book is banned. Too bad our children cannot be trusted with the products of another's free expression. Another good read would be "OB Markers, My Straits Times Story". And this one is not banned - Not only does it give a good insight into the press in Singapore, but it also has lots of interesting history that sets the scene of what is happening in the media industry. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 Depending on the purpose of the project - you might also want to raise the idea of how highly emotional the opening sentence is With an opening sentence like that, you kinda know the rest of the article is not going to be very balanced, and also the use of scare quotes in draconian... It is an appeal to emotion, rather than a reasoned argument. she probably gather a lot of comment made in mcf, courtesy of her uncle Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 Seriously, I think your niece should read Alan Shadrake's book. Might change her mind or at least soften her stance. Oh wait, that book is banned. Too bad our children cannot be trusted with the products of another's free expression. unsure if the jolly was banned but the bookshop launching removed it by their own accord.... maybe can buy ebooks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocus Turbocharged January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 people first day already given exam time table School don't give, KS parents Kao Pei, School give, Other parents kao pei. Next time register for school must include a checkbox "Include early exam timetable". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 A lot of big tobacco compaines comes from USA.... If banned, they sure kpkb big big ..... 14% of sin smoke = 750k approx. Tax 1 ciggy = 0.35 Ave out 1 smoker 12 a day? = $4.20 a day 1 year = $1533. Tax collected per annum = 750000 x 1533 = $1, 149, 750, 000. = over a billion sgd collected annually? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVT Supercharged January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 This isn't the first time a foreigner speaks ill about our death penalty system. So don't bother lah..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 (edited) 14% of sin smoke = 750k approx. Tax 1 ciggy = 0.35 Ave out 1 smoker 12 a day? = $4.20 a day 1 year = $1533. Tax collected per annum = 750000 x 1533 = $1, 149, 750, 000. = over a billion sgd collected annually? Yalor. The population's nicotine habit is necessary to support one woman's investment habit. Edited January 7, 2014 by Turboflat4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxilplix Turbocharged January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 I think Portugal's example goes to show decriminalisation of drugs is not going to lead to chaos and anarchy, they've been doing it for quite a long time, longer than the relatively recent decriminalisation of marijuana in some states in the US, and with "heavier" drugs too. Of course we don't have such a serious problem to begin with. But it is something to think about, along the lines of how our government has allowed the controlled existence of other vices or undesirable activities such as gambling, prostitution and as discussed in another thread, the recent increase and influx of legal moneylenders. Allow it in a controlled manner and with the necessary treatment/counselling facilities, keep the harsh laws for those that step beyond the allowed boundaries. A little article on Portugal for your reading pleasure: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/evaluating-drug-decriminalization-in-portugal-12-years-later-a-891060.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 This isn't the first time a foreigner speaks ill about our death penalty system. So don't bother lah..... Well...if that's the case, perhaps she can reference Rachel's blog..http://rachelzeng.wordpress.com/about/ This is another resource that she might want to look at http://theworldoutline.com/2013/10/death-and-the-city-the-death-penalty-in-singapore/ It (Singapore) had until recently the highest number of executions per inhabitant in the world. The point to be made here .... there are many things that could be done with the project, depending upon what you want to present... 1. The idea of foreigners not being appropriate to comment on Singapore affairs - and whether this is a good or bad thing 2. The balance of the article itself, whether it presents a "fair" argument 3. And of course - the idea of the death penalty for drug trafficking - has it worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoobie Supercharged January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 Banning heroin is fine. But if they wanna ban marijuana (rhyme!), they'd better ban alcohol and tobacco too. Otherwise they just look hypocritical (that applies to many states of the US, too). Alcohol is, by many objective measures, more hazardous to one's short-term functioning and long-term health than marijuana. Smoking doesn't impair functioning in the short-term but it has devastating long term consequences. And smoking exposes "innocent bystanders" to risk via secondary smoke inhalation. C'mon Singapore, show us how strong you are! Be bloody consistent! Ban alcohol and tobacco! You forgot gambling too. IMO, gambling is no far from drugs.. so much for protecting the only "resources" of the country... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 You forgot gambling too. IMO, gambling is no far from drugs.. so much for protecting the only "resources" of the country... gambling got win got lose, but drug sure lose/die Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 I think Portugal's example goes to show decriminalisation of drugs is not going to lead to chaos and anarchy, they've been doing it for quite a long time, longer than the relatively recent decriminalisation of marijuana in some states in the US, and with "heavier" drugs too. Of course we don't have such a serious problem to begin with. But it is something to think about, along the lines of how our government has allowed the controlled existence of other vices or undesirable activities such as gambling, prostitution and as discussed in another thread, the recent increase and influx of legal moneylenders. Allow it in a controlled manner and with the necessary treatment/counselling facilities, keep the harsh laws for those that step beyond the allowed boundaries. A little article on Portugal for your reading pleasure: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/evaluating-drug-decriminalization-in-portugal-12-years-later-a-891060.html If our guys can tax it like ciggy x 3, ...well that's the $ & easy part. The diff part for them is to do so & concurrently maintain whats left of their moral standing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoobie Supercharged January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 gambling got win got lose, but drug sure lose/die drug also got win got lose ma. some drugs are used in some cases in hospital like morphine etc to help pain relieve while the patient recovers. I cut out a little article from ntp a few years back. Was a UK study on the harm to oneself & society at large by various substances. Number 1 spot held by Alcohol. Ironically, this is the substance that has low lax relative to tobacco. Also no gory images on the bottles. Most socially acceptable form of substance abuse worldwide. Tobacco held around 4th I think. Heroin, cocaine, opiates was around there too. Weed I recalled was significantly lower. Was a comparison across 20 substances. Found it : http://www.sg.unimaas.nl/_OLD/oudelezingen/dddsd.pdf It elaborates on how the decision is made, factors included eg, harm to self %, harm to others %....etc etc... Alcohol by most accounts is the worst by a clear margin. Even more so than heroine which holds 2nd. Tobacco and Weed holds 6th & 8th respectively. Come to think of it, why didn't the govt impose much higher tax for alcohol. which should have been done especially after the LI riot.. Instead, those chose to just ban the sale of alcohol in LI which everyone knows is of little help... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 My niece texted me this article because she was preparing for secondary school project and asked for my inputs. My initial reply to her:" K**! School reopen less than a month and you kanna project liao meh? Sai school! " I think it must be some anti-drug campaign but now with this human rights angle, dunno how to explain it to her. She think that angmohs are very kaypoh. LOL (which I agree) . http://carrot-uncensored.blogspot.sg/2012/05/human-rights-is-bulls**t-in-war-against.html ..... The article kinda out-dated. Yong Vui Kong has his death sentence lifted and now on life. Should use articles that are more current as reference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 drug also got win got lose ma. some drugs are used in some cases in hospital like morphine etc to help pain relieve while the patient recovers. Come to think of it, why didn't the govt impose much higher tax for alcohol. which should have been done especially after the LI riot.. Instead, those chose to just ban the sale of alcohol in LI which everyone knows is of little help... Alcohol while it appears to be the worst, its the hardest to tax. Coz people can brew at home. Tax to high, = black market. Vendors may add non consumable toxic alcohol = slow painful death for victim overnight = make sin look bad. Lastly, Alcohol is deeply enshrined in western societies. Tax high, amdk will complain. Aust for eg, while has even higher tobacco tax but very low alcohol tax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 The article kinda out-dated. Yong Vui Kong has his death sentence lifted and now on life. Should use articles that are more current as reference. I guess it depends on what the purpose of the project is.... Singapore's reluctance to accept outside criticism? Rejecting the source rather than the content of the criticism? The mantra that Singapore is safe because of the death penalty? Of course - the biggest thing, for a student, don't rock the boat - give the teacher a project that reflects the viewpoint taught in class (i.e - if the teacher says the death penalty is a good thing, don't challenge his opinion) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 I guess it depends on what the purpose of the project is.... Singapore's reluctance to accept outside criticism? Rejecting the source rather than the content of the criticism? The mantra that Singapore is safe because of the death penalty? Of course - the biggest thing, for a student, don't rock the boat - give the teacher a project that reflects the viewpoint taught in class (i.e - if the teacher says the death penalty is a good thing, don't challenge his opinion) i dun think singapore is reluctance to accept outside criticism, if education can protect of what is need to be protected within a small boundary of this country, where it can deter the drug trafficking/consumption, it is the right to be safe to uphold the death penalty. then those who take the risk will face the consequence accordingly. or would you rather have a open verdict for everyone to try their luck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoobie Supercharged January 7, 2014 Share January 7, 2014 Alcohol while it appears to be the worst, its the hardest to tax. Coz people can brew at home. Tax to high, = black market. Vendors may add non consumable toxic alcohol = slow painful death for victim overnight = make sin look bad. Lastly, Alcohol is deeply enshrined in western societies. Tax high, amdk will complain. Aust for eg, while has even higher tobacco tax but very low alcohol tax. well, these are just bad excuses.. technically, one can grow weed at home too. even drugs can be made also from home.. it is whether want to do it politically or not.. scare of amdk complain, very likely.. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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