Ktglfc Hypersonic March 6, 2015 Share March 6, 2015 Anyone that commited a crime should face the subsequent punishment in the respective country that the crime was committed... Full stop. Don't understand why Aussie step into this case? On what basis? Haiz... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid Hypersonic March 6, 2015 Share March 6, 2015 How? Go to war? LPPL lah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Turbocharged March 6, 2015 Share March 6, 2015 if they spare these 2 aussies, will the indo govt release the rest as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alheych 6th Gear March 6, 2015 Share March 6, 2015 Anyone that commited a crime should face the subsequent punishment in the respective country that the crime was committed... Full stop. Don't understand why Aussie step into this case? On what basis? Haiz... the basis, which they have everything but explicitly said it, is that Australian lives are worth more. read this article: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-19/green-what-about-the-victims-of-the-heroin-trade/6144348 We'll gasp in part through empathy with these two sad individuals, but also in outrage that this brutal execution should be done to two of us: Australian boys. The proof of this will be the absence of even a murmur when the next boatload of foreign nationals is tied to posts to front the Indonesian firing squad. Our hypocrisy in the face of state murder will be made plain by warm relations with a Saudi Arabian government that happily stones women to death or hacks off their heads for sorcery. It will be there in our readiness to forgive a Chinese government that kills thousands each year and keeps no accounting of their deaths. And there too as we look out on the 3035 Americans on death row as at last October, without making so much as a peep of protest. No street vigils. No celebrity videos. No formal representations. Not a care. The difference of course is that these thousands of victims are not Australian, which leads you almost inescapably to conclude that it is not the killing of Chan and Sukumaran that offends us so much as the impudence that this penalty should be directed against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacteria83 Turbocharged March 6, 2015 Share March 6, 2015 the basis, which they have everything but explicitly said it, is that Australian lives are worth more. read this article: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-19/green-what-about-the-victims-of-the-heroin-trade/6144348 We'll gasp in part through empathy with these two sad individuals, but also in outrage that this brutal execution should be done to two of us: Australian boys. The proof of this will be the absence of even a murmur when the next boatload of foreign nationals is tied to posts to front the Indonesian firing squad. Our hypocrisy in the face of state murder will be made plain by warm relations with a Saudi Arabian government that happily stones women to death or hacks off their heads for sorcery. It will be there in our readiness to forgive a Chinese government that kills thousands each year and keeps no accounting of their deaths. And there too as we look out on the 3035 Americans on death row as at last October, without making so much as a peep of protest. No street vigils. No celebrity videos. No formal representations. Not a care. The difference of course is that these thousands of victims are not Australian, which leads you almost inescapably to conclude that it is not the killing of Chan and Sukumaran that offends us so much as the impudence that this penalty should be directed against us. Australian lives more important so can smuggle drug to other countries and harm the local and their family? There is time you should stand up and fight for your people and this incident is definitely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Turbocharged March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 the basis, which they have everything but explicitly said it, is that Australian lives are worth more. read this article: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-19/green-what-about-the-victims-of-the-heroin-trade/6144348 We'll gasp in part through empathy with these two sad individuals, but also in outrage that this brutal execution should be done to two of us: Australian boys. The proof of this will be the absence of even a murmur when the next boatload of foreign nationals is tied to posts to front the Indonesian firing squad. Our hypocrisy in the face of state murder will be made plain by warm relations with a Saudi Arabian government that happily stones women to death or hacks off their heads for sorcery. It will be there in our readiness to forgive a Chinese government that kills thousands each year and keeps no accounting of their deaths. And there too as we look out on the 3035 Americans on death row as at last October, without making so much as a peep of protest. No street vigils. No celebrity videos. No formal representations. Not a care. The difference of course is that these thousands of victims are not Australian, which leads you almost inescapably to conclude that it is not the killing of Chan and Sukumaran that offends us so much as the impudence that this penalty should be directed against us. These "australian boys"... concerning ethnicity, one is chinese and the other is indian... not ang moh leh... and yet, their govt and country defends them on the basis of their citizenship. Now we know why people flock to get their citizenship. I think the indo govt made a mistake by dragging out the conclusion for sooo long. The longer the delay, the more the media play up all kinds of sentiments. Just get it over with, and the whole thing will fade in a week or two. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokerd 2nd Gear March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 Well, this happened when Singapore executed an Australian as well. After a while, no one will care. Really, it's for internal political purposes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 if they spare these 2 aussies, will the indo govt release the rest as well?Indonesia cannot soar them. Aussie govt has stupidly now made it a matter of fave. But the current aussie govt is particularly dumb anyway so it comes as now great surprise 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alheych 6th Gear March 7, 2015 Share March 7, 2015 (edited) The ending is quite clear to me. If Singapore could stand up to Indonesia over the execution of Osman and Harun in 1968, there's absolutely no reason why Indonesia can't do the same to Australia today. Edited March 7, 2015 by Alheych 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothiewabbit Supersonic April 25, 2015 Share April 25, 2015 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32463239 At least three of 10 people on death row in Indonesia for drug smuggling have been given formal notice of their imminent execution. Two Australians, Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, and a Philippines woman, Mary Jane Veloso were notified by Indonesian officials on Saturday. Under Indonesian law, convicts must be given 72 hours' notice of execution, but no formal date has yet been set. The appeals process for a French national is still under way. The group is being held on the prison island of Nusakambangan. Appeals for clemency "Indonesian authorities today [saturday] advised Australian consular officials that the executions of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran will be scheduled imminently at Nusa Kambangan prison in central Java," Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said in a statement. She said she would continue to press for clemency. However, Indonesia's government has rejected all appeals so far. Veloso's parents, two sons and sister travelled to the island on Saturday to see her. Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran were the leaders of the "Bali Nine" group arrested in 2005 while attempting to smuggle heroin to Australia. A court ruled that they had organised a nine-member smuggling operation and they were sentenced to death in 2006. Indonesian President Joko Widodo, who took office last year, has taken a tough stance on drug crime. In January he authorised the executions of six people, including five foreigners, convicted of drug offences. The group of 10 awaiting execution also includes Brazilian and Nigerian nationals. Who are the Bali Nine? The eight men and one woman were arrested in April 2005 at an airport and hotel in Bali, Indonesia after a tip-off from Australian police. They were trying to carry 8.3kg (18lb) of heroin back to AustraliaIn 2006 a court ruled that Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran had recruited the others and paid their costs. They were sentenced to deathThe other seven are serving sentences of between 20 years and life, after some had death sentences revoked on appealChan and Sukumaran have repeatedly appealed against their sentences and say they are reformed characters - Chan teaches Bible and cookery classes in prison while Sukumaran is an artist 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlatio Turbocharged April 25, 2015 Share April 25, 2015 (edited) These "australian boys"... concerning ethnicity, one is chinese and the other is indian... not ang moh leh... and yet, their govt and country defends them on the basis of their citizenship. Now we know why people flock to get their citizenship. I think the indo govt made a mistake by dragging out the conclusion for sooo long. The longer the delay, the more the media play up all kinds of sentiments. Just get it over with, and the whole thing will fade in a week or two. On the contrary, I don't think the kangaroo care fark about these 2 fella.... They do it more for internal politics... For show, to win votes.... we try but indo still hang.... Too bad..... Our heart are with the deceased blah blah blah and they win votes. ... Else how the fark u explain what the kangaroo PM did.... u don't go threaten a country.... and the more open the issue is being brought to the public, the least chance the 2 fella have...... If they are serious in saving them, behind the scene diplomacy work best.... quiet quiet cut some deal, the 2 fella put behind bars for a few years, later someone else birthday, tio 4d, tio toto, mother birthday, happy occasion, quiet quiet release them..... by then, who the fark still remember them and what they did.. . Any yes the indo like Taiwan TV serial, drag and drag and drag..... nbzzz..... Chan teaches Bible and cookery classes in prison while Sukumaran is an artist Cause they gonna get hanged....If they are not caught, teach bible and an artist..... nay, they will be smoking crack at some sh*t hole.... Edited April 25, 2015 by Nlatio 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlatio Turbocharged April 26, 2015 Share April 26, 2015 Wah this UN Chief also one kind.... the Indon are correct.... he is now asking for clemency for the kangaroo when some Indon drug trafficker were executed in Saudi and he kept quiet.... AMTK again.... hmmmm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged April 26, 2015 Share April 26, 2015 Wah this UN Chief also one kind.... the Indon are correct.... he is now asking for clemency for the kangaroo when some Indon drug trafficker were executed in Saudi and he kept quiet.... AMTK again.... hmmmm political reason. Saudi is USA alliance mah 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic April 26, 2015 Share April 26, 2015 ... and a Philippines woman, Mary Jane Veloso... I swear: you can't make this sh!t up. Though it's a shame it wasn't marijuana she was convicted of smuggling. Oh well. Shouldn't make fun of the (soon-to-be) dead anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothiewabbit Supersonic April 26, 2015 Share April 26, 2015 I swear: you can't make this sh!t up. Though it's a shame it wasn't marijuana she was convicted of smuggling. Oh well. Shouldn't make fun of the (soon-to-be) dead anyway. "Life imitates Art far more than Art imitates Life" 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 (edited) Drug mules get death penalty and drug lords just lose some money. It is indeed sad. Some of these people have no choice. Do it - get caught - death penalty. Don't do it - family will be harmed. Killing drug mules do little to stem out drug trafficking. Edited April 27, 2015 by Tigerwoods 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 So far, none of those sentenced to hang, did not disclosed their 'big boss' name....... Are they on some kind of oath to their bosses .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 So far, none of those sentenced to hang, did not disclosed their 'big boss' name....... Are they on some kind of oath to their bosses .... Or big boss name got name but they heard the name end up cannot do anything?? Maybe the name is some big name in the world... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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