Haiz...another suicide?

[Blackyv]

 

Self immolation is arguably the most painful. Since he had 100% burns, I doubt hes going to make it & hope that in this case, they'll not be stingy with morphine.

Deep inside, I think they are cruel to try to save him, should let him go there and then, to him, now is like a living hell experience...worst than being dead... . And I don't think he could make it with 100% burn...

[Baal]

Baal : Not about this case but a previous case. There has been much discussion on Depression. Heres a case about Schizophrenia.

 

http://www.tremeritus.com/2014/04/13/mindef-under-fire-for-enlisting-mentally-ill-nsf/

 

 

MINDEF under fire for enlisting mentally-ill NSF

April 13th, 2014 | Author: Editorial

Pte Ganesh had been diagnosed with schizophrenia but still needed to serve NS. (ST Photo)

 

 

A recent Coroner’s report has ruled out foul play in the death of 22-year-old full-time national serviceman (NSF) Pte Ganesh Pillay, who served his NS last year.

 

He was found dead at the foot of his condominium in Sengkang last July (‘Mentally ill SG must do NS but able new citizens exempted‘).

 

Pte Ganesh was diagnosed with schizophrenia when he was 18 and had to take medicine daily to control his illness. Schizophrenia is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown in thinking and poor emotional response. Common symptoms include delusion, paranoia, hearing voices or noises that are not there, disorganized thinking, and lack of emotion and motivation. In some cases, sufferers even see things that are not there, like “shadows” or “beings”.

 

Pte Ganesh ended his life after his superior, Captain Jessie Goh, had earlier issued him with 14 extra duties as punishment for, among other things, unsatisfactory work and improper bearing. After he returned from camp, he took his own life. The Coroner’s court heard that Cpt Goh had been informed about his condition, but she never tried to find out what it was or how to manage him. Instead, the Coroner heard, she was consistently strict and harsh towards him, seemingly aiming to make a better soldier of him.

 

Former SAF head of psychiatry Dr Christopher Cheok pointed out a “weak” link in the chain. He now leads the psychological medicine department at Khoo Teck Puat Hospital. He told the media that there is a lack of awareness about mental health issues among junior commanders such as NSF officers and specialists.

 

 

Cpt Goh, the officer in charge of Pte Ganesh, had been informed about his condition, but never tried to find out what it was or how to manage him. She was consistently strict and harsh towards the mentally-ill Pte Ganesh, seemingly aiming to make a better soldier of him. The Coroner said she was “out of her depth” in her treatment of Pte Ganesh. (ST Photo)

 

 

Dr Cheok urged the SAF to take a more “rehabilitative, rather than punitive” approach to discipline, saying “there should be special considerations when punishing soldiers with serious mental illnesses”. There is also a perception that soldiers who downgrade their PES status because of mental health issues are malingering.

 

Such stigma must be addressed, Dr Cheok said. He believes that SAF needs to invest more resources in its mental health services.

 

“This is not just about having more doctors, but also case managers who call to check on patients regularly,” Dr Cheok advised.

 

Straits Times senior writer Dr Andy Ho raised the question in an article today (‘Exempt these young men from NS’, 13 Apr) whether young men suffering from schizophrenia should be enlisted. He asked, “The key question this death raises is whether a youth with schizophrenia ought to be enlisted at all.”

 

“Pte Ganesh’s sad end suggests that known schizophrenics should be exempted from NS regardless of whether or not they display symptoms at the (medical) check-up.”

 

Dr Ho explained that a person with schizophrenia needs powerful drugs, which have severe side effects, to keep his condition in check. He requires medication for life and is never cured as drugs do not rewire the brain. Acute bouts recur if he stops taking his medication when he feels better, not least to avoid the side effects.

 

A patient may stop taking their medication because they may not want others to know about their condition if they are seen taking the drugs. Dr Ho is of the opinion that NS is not the ideal environment for those who must comply with drug treatment for schizophrenia.

 

Another reason he cited is that the patient needs lifelong support from family members who ensure, among other things, that he sticks to his drug regimen. “But NS removes him from his family,” Dr Ho said.

 

Once a schizophrenic stops taking his medicine, he may begin losing his temper, lacking focus, becoming anxious, neglecting himself and so on. In a military setting, this cannot but trigger disciplinary action, Dr Ho explained.

 

“It therefore seems to make good sense to exempt a youth with schizophrenia from NS, irrespective of whether or not he displays symptoms on the day of his pre-enlistment medical check-up. Better to let him remain in the care of his family and doctors, and in the community at large,” he said.

 

“Pte Ganesh’s suicide also raises the question of how young men diagnosed with other psychoses should be viewed regarding NS. That is a policy question deserving close and urgent scrutiny.”

Similarly, TRE readers are asking why MINDEF enlists mentally-ill Singaporeans for NS:

 

 

Chris K:

April 9, 2014 at 2:44 pm (Quote)

“Unsatisfactory work and improper bearing”…. those are outward manifestation of his condition so essentially he is being punished by Captain Goh for being ill. The poor young man ought to be exempted or placed in a situation where there is proper understanding and handling of NSMen with such conditions. While Mindef ought to come under fire for negligence on this case, I also think that the issue of mental health in Singapore is badly handled.

 

Beep:

April 9, 2014 at 3:52 pm (Quote)

I’m pretty shocked that this young man Ganesh wasn’t fully exempted from NS given his medical background. Was his 2 years liability as a PES E soldier that important to Mindef?

 

Vicious MIW Liars:

April 9, 2014 at 8:44 pm (Quote)

This is a very vicious and devious MIW govt. How can a young man with a very severe mental disorder not be exempted from conscription service, but rather forced to serve out a conscription term with non combat duties. But still ended up at the mercy of abusive officers who know shit about their duties and responsibility and only eager to carry balls and suck c**ks for promotion. This is indeed a very sad day, both for the family of the dead young man and for Singapore.

 

A TRE reader asked why new citizens are exempted from NS, especially when born-and-bred mentally ill Singaporeans are not exempted:

 

RL:

April 9, 2014 at 1:58 pm (Quote)

I could remember that in the earlier batches of NS men, civil servants including teachers in their 39s and 40s had to serve full time NS in the army with. The other 20 year olds, These older NS men had no problem going through the vigorous trainings. Why new citizens of similar age groups are exempted, not fair isn’t it.? All these new citizens are converted merely because of the benefits that come with their conversion, after all most would be able to return to their country of origin if the desire to do so later on and I think our G should plug this loop hole.

 

 

Meanwhile, in response to media queries, MINDEF has pointed to a previous report on how it screens all servicemen before enlistment and assigns them a PES grade. Those with medical conditions – including mental health conditions – may be assigned a lower grade. The grades range from A – fit for all combat vocations – to F – which exempts the person from NS.

 

Pte Ganesh, who enlisted in October 2012, was given the E9L9 grade, the second lowest, because of his illness and became an administrative assistant in SAF.

 

With regard to the death of Pte Ganesh, MINDEF has declined to comment and instead referred to an earlier statement issued in response to the Coroner’s findings. It said it would “study the findings carefully to improve and tighten its procedures to ensure better compliance by SAF units in dealing with soldiers with mental problems”.

 

[Tigerwoods]

 

panoramic view?

I thought first and last time doing sky diving...

 

[Thaiyotakamli]

Can exprain why jump from tall building can get enjoyment before die ?

One way bungee jump trip

I thought first and last time doing sky diving...

 

Sky diving expensive still need charter flight, jump from tall building cheaper

[Atonchia]

got time to regret while falling down mah.......

 

 

bloody petrol to expensive in Singapore....zzzz

 

must be damn desperate to go till this stage.....

Very painful way to die.

But we not sure if it's 1st /2nd or 3rd deg burn.

If 95% 3rd likely is gone case

 

I'm guessing it's because it's illegal to take one's own life in Sinkapor or he's simply a fruitcake but I may be wrong

 

his paraphernalia for self-immolation below

 

Think it's illegal to commit suicide in MY too

[Thaiyotakamli]

 

Self immolation is arguably the most painful. Since he had 100% burns, I doubt hes going to make it & hope that in this case, they'll not be stingy with morphine.

JB hospital sure corrupt the morphine lol

[Atonchia]

 

back in 98 when I was a pump attendant, ever sold a couple of 1 litre bot of petrol to bikers who ran out of petrol, using a empty 1 litre eo plastic bot. It was kept for that purpose.

 

but subsequently when i pumped petrol in Sin many some years back, a biker asked for the same. But the attendant declined. Later the station manager came out & hesitantly sold a bottle of petrol to the biker in a similar manner, but heard him muttering that ....by right cannot sell this way.

 

Maybe now they can but in a metal tin i guess.

 

arrh....ok, so now regulation added. Makes sense also.

 

 

possible, if its also a protest suicide like rail way.

He knows that boleh Gov sure blow the matter in their news.

Not really....they are better in terms of withholding information.

[Tigerwoods]

If I really want to give up my life, I'd prefer to be self less and do charity work, missionary, helping the poor etc instead of commit suicide.

[RadX]

Just saw the news too.

 

How come go all the way to JB for self-immolation?

 

To make statement?

Or purely suicidal?

Sad way to do it

 

Cheaper I guess

[Tianmo]

If I really want to give up my life, I'd prefer to be self less and do charity work, missionary, helping the poor etc instead of commit suicide.

 

come back and tell us the same thing when you want to give up your life................... [laugh]

Sad way to do it

 

Cheaper I guess

 

must be you quoted too high a price for him.............that's why ended up in JB.........

[Tigerwoods]

 

come back and tell us the same thing when you want to give up your life................... [laugh]

 

must be you quoted too high a price for him.............that's why ended up in JB.........

Like someone said, self immolation or any suicide attempts - make sure confirmed dead and not a vegetable, then not only he suffer, the whole family suffer.

 

with 100% degree burns ... and still alive its extremely sad.

[Jman888]

新山油站自焚, 狮城男昨晚不治

14/04/2014by 沈斯涵 , 黄志发

 

撑不过一成的微弱生存几率，新山油站自焚的狮城男昨晚宣告不治，马国媒体爆出他在自焚前，颈项有刀伤，疑企图割颈双料自杀。

 

 

 

[Lingling]

Last night I read on the Chinese papers.. I think the guy is in Malaysia cos he jumped bail and is running road there ba...

[Atonchia]

Last night I read on the Chinese papers.. I think the guy is in Malaysia cos he jumped bail and is running road there ba...

 

Guess he thought he already 走头无路, reached the end of the road.

Still have a young daughter.

[Atonchia]

If I really want to give up my life, I'd prefer to be self less and do charity work, missionary, helping the poor etc instead of commit suicide.

 

 

Become monk or 出家 is one option many could consider rather than choosing suicide.

 

Unless it's capital crime, I think most would be accepted to devote their remaining lives to something more spiritual, to be re-birth to their respective belief and take on a new life, rather than taking their own.

Suicide will leave a stigma to their family and for this case the daughter would need to grapple this fact.

[Blackyv]

If I really want to give up my life, I'd prefer to be self less and do charity work, missionary, helping the poor etc instead of commit suicide.

 

then you have not given up your life yet but acquire the meaning of life...

[Baal]

http://www.tremeritus.com/2014/04/15/down-out-sporean-set-himself-on-fire-in-johor/

 

Down & out S’porean set himself on fire in Johor

April 15th, 2014 | Author: Editorial

The late Mr Stephen Lew (ST Photo)

 

 

A Singaporean man, Stephen Lew Soon Kiang, 42, who was down and out torched himself in front of a clinic along Jalan Harimau in Taman Century in Johor last Saturday (12 Apr).

 

On Saturday morning, Mr Lew went to a petrol station just a few metres away from the clinic to buy four litres of petrol.

 

He then told the pump attendant that his car was out of petrol and it was parked near the clinic.

After filling up a plastic container with petrol, he walked to the clinic and set himself ablaze with a lighter there. While his body was on fire, he ran to a nearby hotel before falling into a drain. The flame was put out by a passer-by. By then, Mr Lew had suffered serious burns.

 

He passed away in a Johor hospital on Sunday night (13 Apr).

 

Mr Lew’s uncle told the media that he had not been doing well in Singapore. Mr Lew had wound up his wholesale apparel business about a year ago. He then left for Johor in October last year.

His brother added that Mr Lew was arrested last year for taking drugs. But he disappeared two days before he was due to appear in court.

 

His brother also said that Mr Lew had dabbled in a few businesses, ranging from fashion to selling mobile phones but he wasn’t successful. According to ACRA records, Mr Lew set up the apparel company in 2010.

 

Mr Lew had a a two-year-old daughter with his Indonesian girlfriend, the brother said.

The girl is being taken care of by his 71-year-old mother currently.

 

The mother said Mr Lew used to call home once in a while from Johor and asked to speak to his daughter.

 

The little girl, who is learning to speak, would say “Daddy, Daddy” a few times.

 

When asked why her son had set himself on fire, Madam Goh broke down in tears.

 

She would only say, “No matter how bad he was, he was still my child… Now I will never get to hear him call me ‘mother’ any more.”

 

In Aug 2012, Minister Lim Hng Kiang told Parliament that Singapore is doing much better than the US in terms of business failure rates.

 

He said:

 

 

“On the question of international comparison, we do not have very good data on overseas ‘business failure rates’ for meaningful comparison.

 

What we know, for instance is that in the United States, for 10 new businesses formed, about 8 to 9 businesses would cease operations in the same year. Our comparable numbers are between 7 and 8. I think we are slightly better off.”

 

“We do not pre-determine a tolerable range of business ‘failure rates’. We believe however, in a vibrant economy, a certain degree of renewal is healthy and necessary.

 

New firms will be created to take advantage of emerging opportunities while uncompetitive ones wind up and make way for new entries. In this way, our economic resources will be more efficiently utilised.”

 

 

In other words, Mr Lim is saying that it’s “healthy” for businesses to fail.

It’s not known what Mr Lim would say if Mr Lew was his relative.

 

[Atonchia]

JB hospital sure corrupt the morphine lol

 

smuggle out and sell to junkie