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I think it makes sense if you cover long distances in a day that you get a turbodiesel engine car. You get longer mileage as compared to petrol and you get some savings on your fuel bill.

 

If you cover short distances, it's better to get a petrol engine.

 

Today's turbodiesel the DPF(idesel particulate filter) if you know how it works is that it uses the heat from the exhaust to disintegrate or burn the diesel black soot/particles. So if you cover short distances in a day the particles will acummulate and not be able to burn off fast enough resulting the DPF to get clogged. Dan you have to go to a workshop, remove it and clean it with a high pressure water hose. You can do a search on youtube on cleaning the diesel DPF.

 

Another thing about a diesel engine is its clattering noise it produce like a taxi. The turbodiesel system is more high tech dan the turbo petrol. There are more parts that will be subjected to failure over time in the course of wear and tear. What gives the turbodiesel the extra torque is the high pressure fuel system ie. diesel high pressure pump, common rail fuel distribution and the fuel injectors. Any of these parts fail due to wear and tear it's not easy to fault find and parts are not going to be cheap to replace. You will start to feel that the engine no longer produce that much power and you might see a lot of black smoke coming out of the exhaust.

 

Another thing is there are not many workshops out there who knows how to fix turbodiesel issues.

 

Unless you cover large mileage and if you do not intend to keep the car for long. Sure, you can get a turbodiesel option. Look out for ADs who offer 5 years warranty with unlimited mileage. After you are done servicing your loan (max 5years) it's time to change car. LoL...

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I think it makes sense if you cover long distances in a day that you get a turbodiesel engine car. You get longer mileage as compared to petrol and you get some savings on your fuel bill.

 

If you cover short distances, it's better to get a petrol engine.

 

Today's turbodiesel the DPF(idesel particulate filter) if you know how it works is that it uses the heat from the exhaust to disintegrate or burn the diesel black soot/particles. So if you cover short distances in a day the particles will acummulate and not be able to burn off fast enough resulting the DPF to get clogged. Dan you have to go to a workshop, remove it and clean it with a high pressure water hose. You can do a search on youtube.

 

Another thing about a diesel engine is its clattering noise it produce like a taxi. The turbodiesel system is more high tech dan the turbo petrol. There are more parts that will be subjected to failure over time in the course of wear and tear. What gives the turbodiesel the extra torque is the high pressure fuel system ie. diesel high pressure pump, common rail fuel distribution and the fuel injectors. Any of these parts fail due to wear and tear it's not easy to fault find and parts are not going to be cheap to replace. You will start to feel that the engine no longer produce that much power and you might see a lot of black smoke coming out of the exhaust.

 

Another thing is there are not many workshops out there who knows how to fix turbodiesel issues.

 

Unless you cover large mileage and if you do not intend to keep the car for long. Sure, you can get a turbodiesel option. Look out for ADs who offer 5 years warranty with unlimited mileage. After you are done servicing your loan (max 5years) it's time to change car. LoL...

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Do not travel to causeway.

 

You mean the diesel in M'sia is not "good" enough?

 

I'm not very sure lah. Coz I have seen M'sia registered BMW 320d running around. If there's an issue you won't see them running around. Diesel in M'sia most likely have a higher sulphur content dan Singapore and Europe but the sulphur in fuel be it petrol or diesel actually serves as a lubricant for the car's fuel pump. It doesn't quite affect your engine. The main issue is the toxic exhaust it produces. I know some ppl will encounter the icon for fuel filter to lit up on the dash. Meaning to say the fuel sensor detect some kinda anomaly in the diesel that you pump and it requires your attention. LoL...

 

For some engines I know you could just unplug the sensor to make the warning light go away. And it will not affect the engine in anyway. I dunno what some AD workshop tell their customers but so far nobody mention what will happen exactly to the engine if you use the diesel from M'sia. Most of it is hearsay and stories told by others.

 

Grades of diesel are determined but the amount of sulphur content. There's no other chemical that can be present in the diesel that can be added to harm the engine except for the environment. You can Google and see what sulphur content in fuel does to the diesel engine.

 

What ppl shouldn't use is those industrial diesel. You dunno what they put into it but I know they most likely add is water but dan diesel engine has a fuel filter to filter the water content. Worry is dunno what kinda checmical they add to the diesel. If you pump from M'sia major diesel distributors like Shell, Esso, Caltex, etc etc. There should be no problem.

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Hi, am considering S60 or S80 diesel as well, can share how's the reliability and consumption of a Volvo? Thanks

I cannot say for the current models and engine, but my V50 (with the old 2.4i NA inline 5 engine) have been quite bullet proof. Of all the cars in the family, my wife's Jap Mazda and the V50 have been the most reliable and I have friends who had the old old S60 (2004 model) who never had a problem, and another friend who drives the newer C70 with the T5 engine also with minimal repairs.

 

I bought the V50 when 5 years old and back when I bought it the car was in very bad shape but it was cheap, so I had the issues fixed myself:

 

- Aircon compressor kaput

- Front driveshaft CV joint seals kaput (wear and tear)

- Engine mounts kaput causing vibration

- Leather quality is very bad, had them re-upholstered

- Gear shifter spoilt, can't shift manual +/-; this is a very RARE failure, but I think ex-owner must have spilled water over it

 

After replacing those the car drove all the way until recently, at ~8-9 years of age:

 

- Rear wheel bearings kaput

- Fuel rail sensor kaput

 

I think for a car like the V50 it is a very good record. It is a super practical car also drives very well, and my sister totally likes driving it.

 

I cannot tell for the newer V40, but based on my experience I will buy a Volvo again. It is also true that the Volvo seats are extremely comfortable.

 

It's a pity that COE is so high. If COE falls to 40-50K, I will renew the V50. The car is due to renew/scrap Feb 2005.

 

You mean the diesel in M'sia is not "good" enough?

 

I'm not very sure lah. Coz I have seen M'sia registered BMW 320d running around. If there's an issue you won't see them running around. Diesel in M'sia most likely have a higher sulphur content dan Singapore and Europe but the sulphur in fuel be it petrol or diesel actually serves as a lubricant for the car's fuel pump.

The diesel BMWs in M'sia have their DPF removed at factory, so it is incorrect to assume that if they have 320d we can drive our 320d into M'sia and pump their diesel.

 

We can pump a bit and mix with our diesel, but better not pump a full tank in case it clogs up the DPF.

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You mean the diesel in M'sia is not "good" enough?

 

I'm not very sure lah. Coz I have seen M'sia registered BMW 320d running around. If there's an issue you won't see them running around. Diesel in M'sia most likely have a higher sulphur content dan Singapore and Europe but the sulphur in fuel be it petrol or diesel actually serves as a lubricant for the car's fuel pump. It doesn't quite affect your engine. The main issue is the toxic exhaust it produces. I know some ppl will encounter the icon for fuel filter to lit up on the dash. Meaning to say the fuel sensor detect some kinda anomaly in the diesel that you pump and it requires your attention. LoL...

 

For some engines I know you could just unplug the sensor to make the warning light go away. And it will not affect the engine in anyway. I dunno what some AD workshop tell their customers but so far nobody mention what will happen exactly to the engine if you use the diesel from M'sia. Most of it is hearsay and stories told by others.

 

Grades of diesel are determined but the amount of sulphur content. There's no other chemical that can be present in the diesel that can be added to harm the engine except for the environment. You can Google and see what sulphur content in fuel does to the diesel engine.

 

What ppl shouldn't use is those industrial diesel. You dunno what they put into it but I know they most likely add is water but dan diesel engine has a fuel filter to filter the water content. Worry is dunno what kinda checmical they add to the diesel. If you pump from M'sia major diesel distributors like Shell, Esso, Caltex, etc etc. There should be no problem.

 

That's informative........ [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

 

Looking at the number of volvo buses in Singapore, suppose their reliability isn't that bad........no sure lehh.... :ph34r: :ph34r:

I suppose one takes into consideration of the mileage clocked before committing into a diesel car, but the main attraction is very much the good fuel mileage per liter on a diesel car.

 

With the high price of petrol, also quite tempted to convert to diesel...... in particular with a volvo.

 

 

 

 

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I am also looking at the Volvo D2. Attractive price at 119k but don't know what's the trade off using a diesel...

Diesel is like this, you can take off from start really fast but you will lose petrol car in a long drag race. It's quite boring to drive because the car loses power at higher RPM. Coming from a history of NA car, I recently bought a BMW 520d and it is indeed quite boring to drive to an extent now my challenge is to get the best FC instead :P

 

And of course, you can make limited trips to M'sia since their diesel is not Euro V. We can go in with a full tank, and if the 1000km range of the diesel is not enough for your road trip, fill up some to mix with our diesel 50/50, but never a full tank.

 

IF you drive mostly in S'pore, it is quite a no brainer. The savings in fuel can go up to $200/mth depending on your mileage.

I never consider conti cars besides Mercedes.

Of all the cars in my family the Merc (E class W211) gave the most trouble. Every 1-2 years sure got one sensor problem. I don't know where you got your info from.

I think it makes sense if you cover long distances in a day that you get a turbodiesel engine car. You get longer mileage as compared to petrol and you get some savings on your fuel bill.

 

If you cover short distances, it's better to get a petrol engine.

 

Today's turbodiesel the DPF(idesel particulate filter) if you know how it works is that it uses the heat from the exhaust to disintegrate or burn the diesel black soot/particles. So if you cover short distances in a day the particles will acummulate and not be able to burn off fast enough resulting the DPF to get clogged. Dan you have to go to a workshop, remove it and clean it with a high pressure water hose. You can do a search on youtube on cleaning the diesel DPF.

 

Another thing about a diesel engine is its clattering noise it produce like a taxi. The turbodiesel system is more high tech dan the turbo petrol. There are more parts that will be subjected to failure over time in the course of wear and tear. What gives the turbodiesel the extra torque is the high pressure fuel system ie. diesel high pressure pump, common rail fuel distribution and the fuel injectors. Any of these parts fail due to wear and tear it's not easy to fault find and parts are not going to be cheap to replace. You will start to feel that the engine no longer produce that much power and you might see a lot of black smoke coming out of the exhaust.

 

Another thing is there are not many workshops out there who knows how to fix turbodiesel issues.

 

Unless you cover large mileage and if you do not intend to keep the car for long. Sure, you can get a turbodiesel option. Look out for ADs who offer 5 years warranty with unlimited mileage. After you are done servicing your loan (max 5years) it's time to change car. LoL...

 

Agree that if you get a diesel you have to drive longer distance to not only realize the full benefit but also to ensure optimum engine health.

 

But I do not agree that diesels are more complicated. Today's petrol engines are also direct injection, and added to the complexity are the variable valve lift and timing and the spark ingnition systems are also recepies for trouble. Both engines have its merits. The europeans swear by the diesel engines since the maintenance is lower, and BMW have been building pretty bullet proof diesel engines prior to the newer N47s with timing chain issue.

 

And thanks for advocating that people sell car after 5 years. I will be in the market looking for these cars to buy cheap.

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Diesel is like this, you can take off from start really fast but you will lose petrol car in a long drag race. It's quite boring to drive because the car loses power at higher RPM. Coming from a history of NA car, I recently bought a BMW 520d and it is indeed quite boring to drive to an extent now my challenge is to get the best FC instead :P

 

And of course, you can make limited trips to M'sia since their diesel is not Euro V. We can go in with a full tank, and if the 1000km range of the diesel is not enough for your road trip, fill up some to mix with our diesel 50/50, but never a full tank.

 

IF you drive mostly in S'pore, it is quite a no brainer. The savings in fuel can go up to $200/mth depending on your mileage.

 

Of all the cars in my family the Merc (E class W211) gave the most trouble. Every 1-2 years sure got one sensor problem. I don't know where you got your info from.

Maybe, u bought a used car.
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Maybe, u bought a used car.

It IS a used car. I don't buy new cars. ;)

 

The only 2 cars I ever bought new were a Nissan Latio and a BMW 320i (E90).

 

The Latio was very good, but had aircon fail after 1yr+. The blardee aircon broke down while I was in a massive Jam at the 2nd link on a hot afternoon. Imagine that. Fixed under warranty.

 

The 320i was a lemon. It had massive engine issues that PML could not find/fix and kept saying it was normal, but it was not. Way underpowered and does not drive like other 320i that I have driven. I sold the car after 1 year.

 

All my other used cars have been generally trouble free. The Merc has some sensor gremlins and it seems like "wear and tear" that these sensors kaput after a while. First it was the sports mode button spoil, then crankshaft sensor, then recently ABS sensor.

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Diesel is like this, you can take off from start really fast but you will lose petrol car in a long drag race. It's quite boring to drive because the car loses power at higher RPM. Coming from a history of NA car, I recently bought a BMW 520d and it is indeed quite boring to drive to an extent now my challenge is to get the best FC instead :P

 

And of course, you can make limited trips to M'sia since their diesel is not Euro V. We can go in with a full tank, and if the 1000km range of the diesel is not enough for your road trip, fill up some to mix with our diesel 50/50, but never a full tank.

 

IF you drive mostly in S'pore, it is quite a no brainer. The savings in fuel can go up to $200/mth depending on your mileage.

 

Of all the cars in my family the Merc (E class W211) gave the most trouble. Every 1-2 years sure got one sensor problem. I don't know where you got your info from.

 

 

Agree that if you get a diesel you have to drive longer distance to not only realize the full benefit but also to ensure optimum engine health.

 

But I do not agree that diesels are more complicated. Today's petrol engines are also direct injection, and added to the complexity are the variable valve lift and timing and the spark ingnition systems are also recepies for trouble. Both engines have its merits. The europeans swear by the diesel engines since the maintenance is lower, and BMW have been building pretty bullet proof diesel engines prior to the newer N47s with timing chain issue.

 

And thanks for advocating that people sell car after 5 years. I will be in the market looking for these cars to buy cheap.

Please go ahead. I do have so many days of annual leave.
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Please go ahead. I do have so many days of annual leave.

That's quite sad, if you can afford a Merc, you can't afford a few days of annual leave? Work your ass off for what. Enjoy life mah.

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It IS a used car. I don't buy new cars. ;)

 

The only 2 cars I ever bought new were a Nissan Latio and a BMW 320i (E90).

 

The Latio was very good, but had aircon fail after 1yr+. The blardee aircon broke down while I was in a massive Jam at the 2nd link on a hot afternoon. Imagine that. Fixed under warranty.

 

The 320i was a lemon. It had massive engine issues that PML could not find/fix and kept saying it was normal, but it was not. Way underpowered and does not drive like other 320i that I have driven. I sold the car after 1 year.

 

All my other used cars have been generally trouble free. The Merc has some sensor gremlins and it seems like "wear and tear" that these sensors kaput after a while. First it was the sports mode button spoil, then crankshaft sensor, then recently ABS sensor.

At least, there are alternate workshops.

That's quite sad, if you can afford a Merc, you can't afford a few days of annual leave? Work your ass off for what. Enjoy life mah.

We have to about our family. Take care. Car is suppose to bring us trouble free.
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At least, there are alternate workshops.

You're derailing the original question.

 

What do you mean by at least there are alternate workshops? For the BMW you mean? And Merc? You mean Volvo don't have? Heh. My mechanic can do all three brands (and more). I don't know what you are talking about.

 

It's ok to buy new car and change every 5 years... really. Everybody decides how they spend their money. I decide that I don't want to take on a new car depre, that's all.

We have to about our family. Take care. Car is suppose to bring us trouble free.

Buy a lexus.

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thanks for the wealth of info! any idea what the resale of a volvo and also diesel car is like?

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I do not have so many days of annual leave to enjoy free coffee. I need a reliable car to pick up my wife and children.

In Singapore, the only conti can trust is Mercedes. Others can write off. Because no resale values. No alternate workshop.

How many days of annual leave do u have?

No true for no alternate ws for conti. I am driving a BMW, there are many BMW specialise ws outside with more skillful mechanics and price are a lot cheaper than AD.

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I do not have so many days of annual leave to enjoy free coffee. I need a reliable car to pick up my wife and children.

In Singapore, the only conti can trust is Mercedes. Others can write off. Because no resale values. No alternate workshop.

How many days of annual leave do u have?

 

what you said is the epitome of shallowness.

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what you said is the epitome of shallowness.

R u working for Volvo? Good luck.

No true for no alternate ws for conti. I am driving a BMW, there are many BMW specialise ws outside with more skillful mechanics and price are a lot cheaper than AD.

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what you said is the epitome of shallowness.

Very often is common sense.

No true for no alternate ws for conti. I am driving a BMW, there are many BMW specialise ws outside with more skillful mechanics and price are a lot cheaper than AD.

How about critical parts?
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Very often is common sense.

How about critical parts?

There are a few stock lists for BMW, the WS will get the parts from them. If you want to save some money. You can buy your parts and bring to WS for exchange and just paid for labor.

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