UK Poilice: Hello! Solve Your Own Case La

[Camrysfa]

UK police increasingly asking victims to solve their own cases.

Since, we don’t want this to happen to SG, thought it deserved a separate thread.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/04/police-telling-victims-solve-crimes-themselves

 

Crime victims are increasingly being told by some police forces to carry out their own investigations by speaking to neighbours, checking for CCTV images and seeing if their stolen property has been put up for sale on secondhand websites, the official police watchdog has warned.

Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary says that for some high-volume types of offences, such as car crime, criminal damage and non-residential burglaries, this "DIY" approach to tackling crime is an "emerging trend" among some forces. They warn that in areas where the police have given up investigating these offences, they are "on the verge of being decriminalised".

 

The HMIC's report on the use of police time says that in too many cases once the victim had been asked to carry out their own investigation by police call handlers, the crime report was filed away without any further contact with the victim.

"Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary finds this expectation by these forces that the victims should investigate his own crime both surprising and a matter of material concern.

"The police have been given powers and resources to investigate crime by the public, and there should be no expectation on the part of the police that an inversion of that responsibility is acceptable," says the report published on Thursday.

 

Inspector of Constabulary, Roger Baker, who led the inspection, said: "It's more a mindset that we no longer deal with these things. Effectively what's happened is, a number of crimes are on the verge of being decriminalised. So it's not the fault of the individual staff – it's a mindset thing that's crept in to policing to say, 'We've almost given up.'"

He added: "When a crime has been committed, it's the job of the police service to go and find out who's done it and bring them to justice. They're the cops and we expect the cops to catch people, and my proposition to you is that unless you've got the powers of Mystic Meg or something like that, you not turning up and using your skills … it's going to be mightily difficult to bring people to justice."

 

The report concludes that police desk-based investigations of crime are failing to serve the public and mean "little or nothing more than recording a crime without taking further action. The HMIC investigation found that it is still policy to send an officer to attend all reports of crime in only six of the 43 police forces in England and Wales. In the other 37 forces a call-handler uses set criteria to assess whether somebody should be sent.

The watchdog says it is unacceptable that its investigation found nearly half the police forces were unable to provide any details of the reported crimes their officers had attended and that a third were failing to identify repeat and vulnerable victims when they rang to report an incident.

 

Baker said that it was only by fully understanding how they use their staff that police forces could ensure that they were efficient and responsive: "We found that this vital element of evaluation and analysis is still lacking in the majority of forces, with fewer than a quarter of forces investigating demand in order to prioritise and organise their workforce. In this age of austerity it's more important than ever that forces understand how to prioritise their resources."

 

Irene Curtis, president of the Police Superintendents' Association responding to the report said forces had made significant efforts to protect the frontline in the face of cuts but it appeared "some of the basic functions of policing appear to be slipping through the cracks in some areas." She said: "The public and victims of crime in particular deserve the highest standard of service from the police, wherever they live, so it's important that these issues are addressed and forces must learn from the many examples of good practice highlighted in the report."

[Sosaria]

Blame it on the law there which is quite lax on such petty crimes.

 

Since the law is so light on these petty stuff, of course the police get the mindset... why bother? Since the criminals will be out on the streets very soon after their capture.

 

They need Judge Dredd!

Edited September 4, 2014 by Sosaria

[Camrysfa]

some reactions . . BTW, anyone in SG told to DIY too?

 

[Sosaria]

Look at the bright side: at least in the UK they have a police 'watchdog' called "Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary" to highlight incorrect or questionable practices by their police force.

 

That's how this news became public.

 

Here? How? Is there a body that will call into question the current practice of victims being asked to 'pursue a civil case' instead of proper investigation and prosecution of the perpetrator?

[Jamesc]

UK has a DIY culture.

 

Fix your own leaky pipes yourself

 

Decorate your house yourself.

 

Service your own car yourself

 

and now its catch your own crinimal yourself.

 

 

 

[Soya]

actualli in sg, polis oso got say if u kena bashed up, there's nothing they can do and refer u to lawyer instead as its a civil case......

 

 

 

[Extinguisher]

Becoming like Judge Dredd? Catch criminals and sentence them on the spot ourselves.

[1fast1]

Who dare say Singapore not first world? Our mata been doing this for years. UK supposedly first world, only now catch up.

Edited September 5, 2014 by Turboflat4

[Watwheels]

In today's world you are better off a crook dan a policeman.

 

Very soon ppl will be wearing mobile cams like the ones we use for our cars. GVGT, NVNT. Else the police dunno where to start.

[Kangadrool]

Can victims DIY punish the criminals?

 

UK has a DIY culture.

 

Fix your own leaky pipes yourself

 

Decorate your house yourself.

 

Service your own car yourself

 

and now its catch your own crinimal yourself.

 

 

 

 

[Soya]

In today's world you are better off a crook dan a policeman.

 

Very soon ppl will be wearing mobile cams like the ones we use for our cars. GVGT, NVNT. Else the police dunno where to start.

 

ahemmm......our polis oso beat us to dat. record video so can prove that they oredi told us that can't help us?

[1fast1]

UK has a DIY culture.

 

Fix your own leaky pipes yourself

 

Decorate your house yourself.

 

Service your own car yourself

 

and now its catch your own crinimal yourself.

 

 

 

 

I have no objections to a DIY culture.

 

But there are some exceptions.

 

For instance, when I go to a spa, I can easily DIY.

 

But I prefer to let the specialists handle it.

 

Feel much more relieved that way.

 

And the tail...er...tale always has a happy ending!

 

 

PS: Will I lugi 30 points now?

Edited September 5, 2014 by Turboflat4

[Camrysfa]

 

 

Can say TP here already practising some DIY on road policing. Except for speed cameras and quite rare on road presence - most can drive at any lane and any manner. However most motorists here quite well behaved.

[Camrysfa]

But when the need arise they can pump in up to 20 patrol cars....

 

http://eng.mynewshub.cc/2014/09/05/woman-found-beheaded-in-london-garden/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mynewshub-English+%28MyNewsHub+-+English%29

 

LONDON A woman was found beheaded on Thursday in a back garden in north London, according to media reports, but police said the attack was not linked to terrorism.

 

Police discovered the body of Palmira Silva, 82, in the suburb of Edmonton after being alerted at midday by local residents who said a man with a knife was attacking a cat or dog.

 

They would not confirm reports she had been beheaded, nor some media descriptions that the act was carried out with a machete.

 

A 25-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder and is in custody, they said.

 

Police evacuated residents from their homes as the man ran through a row of back gardens.

 

At first there were two police cars, then all of a sudden there were 20, one witness, 19-year-old Ahmed Yusuf, said.

 

The police said to drop everything They said theres a guy jumping over gardens.

 

Scotland Yard said it was also investigating an attempted attack on two people at another house in the same road shortly before the attack on Silva.

 

At this stage we believe they were both able to get out of the house without injury, said a police spokesman.

 

Detective Chief Inspector John Sandlin of Scotland Yard said they were not looking for anyone else over the incident.

 

This was a highly visible attack in broad daylight on a residential street, he added.

 

Whilst it is too early to speculate on what the motive behind this attack was, I am confident based on the information currently available to me that it is not terrorist-related. AFP

[Soya]

But when the need arise they can pump in up to 20 patrol cars....

 

 

 

 

errrrr.....kinda difficult to expect beheaded victim to DIY own case, i tink.

[Camrysfa]

 

 

errrrr.....kinda difficult to expect beheaded victim to DIY own case, i tink.

Haha, good one. War relic removal police also say call contractor, in certain cases.!!

[1fast1]

 

 

errrrr.....kinda difficult to expect beheaded victim to DIY own case, i tink.

 

People who lose their heads just can't seem to think straight.

[Jamesc]

People cannot expect the police to do everything.

 

They are so busy and they have more important things to do.