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Posted 19 May 2015 - 12:43 AM

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The construction of this canal will have a big impact on Singapore maritime traffic.

http://mothership.sg...er-to-fruition/

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 12:49 AM

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The construction of this canal will have a big impact on Singapore maritime traffic.

http://mothership.sg...er-to-fruition/

My first humble [idea]  question, can I go there for fishing or not   [confused]


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 12:53 AM

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My first humble [idea]  question, can I go there for fishing or not   [confused]


Wah lau bro...hahaha.
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Posted 19 May 2015 - 07:25 AM

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Its a matter of times lar......

 

It had been planned since the late 90's and Thailand had in fact pre warned SG about it. We thereby had since concentrating on other means of earning our GDP ... :a-panic:

 

MY will suffer the most cos of their 2 huge container ports (which not fully used) in West & East of JB and Iskandar projects... [sweatdrop]  


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 07:34 AM

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The construction of this canal will have a big impact on Singapore maritime traffic.

http://mothership.sg...er-to-fruition/


Better for the world as a whole because less fuel is burned due to shorter trade route - more efficient
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Posted 19 May 2015 - 07:43 AM

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This is a massive project and huge investment but long term, if they managed it well, it is a good source of income through toll. Not just fuel cost, also time which is money. Just earn the fuel cost and people will still use it. To be frank, too many in SG, esp younger gen taking things for granted. Not every day is sunny day. To certain extend, SG has diversify but this will still impact SG but not as much as what it would be if it has materialise earlier.
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Posted 19 May 2015 - 07:48 AM

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can propose set up erp gantry or not.


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 07:57 AM

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can propose set up erp gantry or not.

already considered. the erp is at the canal or channel itself - just like suez canal....


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:01 AM

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There is one major problem for Thai ..... :a-aggressive:

 

The southern Thailand always having conficts with militants ... [rifle]  

 

So ships passing by could subject to attacks ... :onfire:


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:03 AM

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First thing come to my mind is, can singapore be the dumping backyard for the land that was dug out? I know it's impossible but I'm sure gahmen will be damn lau nuah.
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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:08 AM

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First thing come to my mind is, can singapore be the dumping backyard for the land that was dug out? I know it's impossible but I'm sure gahmen will be damn lau nuah.

 

Hmmmm............. add 3 more casinos to offset the lost of shipping business .... [sly]

 

and do away with the $100 entrance fee... :a-happy:  :a-happy:  :a-happy:  :a-happy:


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:13 AM

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this is a very big frigthening news

what is the realistic impact?

what can we do?

 

govt say consolidate port in jurong

if 7 years time, kra canal come, then will the new jurong port be wasted?

i am sure govt already considered kra canal before planing to move port to jurong



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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:15 AM

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There is one major problem for Thai ..... :a-aggressive:

 

The southern Thailand always having conficts with militants ... [rifle]  

 

So ships passing by could subject to attacks ... :onfire:

 

I had a discussion with an elderly Singaporean who bring customers to Thailand on guided tour once said, it would be impossible for Thailand to go ahead with this plan, as the south always wanted independence, and cutting the southern tip across the Kra Isthmus gives them a legitimate boundary..

 

For political reasons, I find his argument strong, but seldom would insurgencies last a long time, and the shortcut to instant prosperity, funded by other people's money ( China ) is too strong a lure.

 

China is a big player in minor country's politics/geographical development because it has the money, and the cunning. 

 

Look at how the Sultan of Johor is convinced to break away from the central government's control with the new chinese backer; Cambodia/ Myanmmar breaking out from ASEAN ranks when standing up to China where the Philippines is involved. Too many similar situations to bring up

 

Small countries would not do well should they allow the giants to break them from the grouped core.  

 

朝秦暮楚 is apt to describe China's act. They are also employing classic Sun Zi's stratagem


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:17 AM

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Need to pay $$$ wor to our competitor. But, I think if sand, definitely worth it. Not mud and soil.

First thing come to my mind is, can singapore be the dumping backyard for the land that was dug out? I know it's impossible but I'm sure gahmen will be damn lau nuah.

 


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:19 AM

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this is a very big frigthening news

what is the realistic impact?

what can we do?

 

govt say consolidate port in jurong

if 7 years time, kra canal come, then will the new jurong port be wasted?

i am sure govt already considered kra canal before planing to move port to jurong

 

 

Definitely, but they cannot stop playing the chess game simply because they thought someone else is making a strong move. They just move ahead cautiously. 

 

Note the heavy investment in the new airport terminals, to find new breathing grounds


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:25 AM

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Competition from MY is less frightening than TH's Kra project.

 

We have seen many big shipping lines shifting to MY, but still keep SG as a backup. We know what's the realities when these companies start operations there though in the headline news, all say good things... Why would a big shipping carrier makes two calls nearby, one to dump empty containers and one to dump sensitive cargoes like DG and reefers here?

 

TH is different, the people's attitude are so much better though recent political instability does have a little impact on their competitiveness.


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:30 AM

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The world is always changing, though at a faster rate now. We have to react accordingly and plan ahead on the possibilities. Building casino is just a fast buck kind of approach and has limited long term economic benefits. The pie is that big and others are building casino as well and having more only means attracting people with more choice but the overall increase in revenue is going to be limited. If gov go this route, it s a sign of desperation or running out of ideas. SG as a small country need to generate new ideas and products that sell to the world. No need to manufacture here but created here. That's my view and u may beg to differ.
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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:32 AM

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years ago my cousin, a port crane operator, was retrenched and his position replaced by fw, mynamese, i think

 

it was a good living for my counsin, who didnt study much

 

he was angry with pap

i am too, for him

 

i dont know, maybe the end would have come sanyway

better the earilier han later?


The world is always changing, though at a faster rate now. We have to react accordingly and plan ahead on the possibilities. Building casino is just a fast buck kind of approach and has limited long term economic benefits. The pie is that big and others are building casino as well and having more only means attracting people with more choice but the overall increase in revenue is going to be limited. If gov go this route, it s a sign of desperation or running out of ideas. SG as a small country need to generate new ideas and products that sell to the world. No need to manufacture here but created here. That's my view and u may beg to differ.

 

u agree with you

casino is a industry with a low barrier to entry

the lack of ideas, a sign of desperation, is frightening


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:36 AM

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u agree with you

casino is a industry with a low barrier to entry

the lack of ideas, a sign of desperation, is frightening

 

Japan now also desperate liao.... Recently, they sent a delegation to SG to study our casinos. Hope they don't follow our slippery slope.

 

Japan so high tech with so many own tech companies to create more value, why waste it?

 

Perhaps it's a "karma" when MNCs start too much offshoring, thereby depriving their own citizens of their rice bowls, skills......


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 08:37 AM

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note that is the China initiative, so its partly their property.

so China shipments are the priority, which we will miss.

 

but more importantly, we are not resting on our LP laurels


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