Darthrevan Supercharged June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 The Jakarta provincial government is expected to begin an intensive public campaign to educate motorists on its Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) system in the next few months. The city's administration wants to implement ERP by the end of 2015. It has been studying the system to reduce traffic congestion since 2006. "We have prepared the concept for an intensive socialisation in two to three months' time on how the community can be informed of the ERP concept in a big and complete way," said Leo Armstrong, head of the ERP management unit at Jakarta Transportation Agency. "The government will lead the campaign." Two ERP gantries have been erected at two busy roads to test the system. Trials have already been completed and the local government says the results are encouraging. 'PUBLICITY STUNT' However, transport analysts are not convinced. "This is like a publicity stunt where they just put some fancy gantries in the middle of the road," said Yoda Adiwinarto, country manager at the Institute for Transportation and Development Policy. "The transport agency claimed that they want to try the effectiveness of the gantry; they want to try whether the on-board unit will work well. The problem is that all the on-board units that they installed were only for the official vehicles. So why bother putting the giant gantries on the public roads? Just try it somewhere nobody knows." The tender for the implementation of the ERP system is expected to be released in June. A one-day workshop will also be conducted among various stakeholders to discuss road pricing regulations. One of the challenges facing the implementation of ERP concerns motorists using small shortcut roads. Jakarta has a complicated network of roads which includes small shortcut roads. The provincial government is well aware that motorists may try to bypass the ERP by using shortcut roads. But while taking such a route may save some money, it may not save time because during peak hours shortcut roads are even more congested. Jakarta governor Basuki Tjahaja Purnama has set a target for the ERP system to be completed by the end of 2015. Transport analysts believe this may not happen because of the lack of progress on the ground. In addition, the project has been hit by numerous delays over the years. MIXED VIEWS Motorists have mixed views about the effectiveness of electronic road pricing. "Sometimes electronic pricing can be a solution for the traffic but sometimes I think a collaboration system electronic and manual system could be integrated to be a solution in Jakarta because not all the people in Jakarta support electronics," said one motorist. "I think we need more, wider roads," added another motorist. "The ERP will not have any effect on congestion." Jakarta is struggling to keep vehicle population down, and it hopes electronic road pricing, which means higher costs for private vehicles, will help to solve the problem. At the same time, it is improving the public transport infrastructure to encourage motorists to turn to buses and trains instead. Source: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/indonesia-motorists-to/1886608.html ↡ Advertisement 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxilplix Turbocharged June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 Yeah right. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackyv Turbocharged June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 they must wait awhile longer, after singapore get the satelite ERP up, we'll sell ALL our gantry over to them.. win-win... hehehe.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2BDriver Hypersonic June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 The Jakarta provincial government is expected to begin an intensive public campaign to educate motorists on its Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) system in the next few months. The city's administration wants to implement ERP by the end of 2015. It has been studying the system to reduce traffic congestion since 2006. "We have prepared the concept for an intensive socialisation in two to three months' time on how the community can be informed of the ERP concept in a big and complete way," said Leo Armstrong, head of the ERP management unit at Jakarta Transportation Agency. "The government will lead the campaign." Two ERP gantries have been erected at two busy roads to test the system. Trials have already been completed and the local government says the results are encouraging. 'PUBLICITY STUNT' However, transport analysts are not convinced. "This is like a publicity stunt where they just put some fancy gantries in the middle of the road," said Yoda Adiwinarto, country manager at the Institute for Transportation and Development Policy. "The transport agency claimed that they want to try the effectiveness of the gantry; they want to try whether the on-board unit will work well. The problem is that all the on-board units that they installed were only for the official vehicles. So why bother putting the giant gantries on the public roads? Just try it somewhere nobody knows." The tender for the implementation of the ERP system is expected to be released in June. A one-day workshop will also be conducted among various stakeholders to discuss road pricing regulations. One of the challenges facing the implementation of ERP concerns motorists using small shortcut roads. Jakarta has a complicated network of roads which includes small shortcut roads. The provincial government is well aware that motorists may try to bypass the ERP by using shortcut roads. But while taking such a route may save some money, it may not save time because during peak hours shortcut roads are even more congested. Jakarta governor Basuki Tjahaja Purnama has set a target for the ERP system to be completed by the end of 2015. Transport analysts believe this may not happen because of the lack of progress on the ground. In addition, the project has been hit by numerous delays over the years. MIXED VIEWS Motorists have mixed views about the effectiveness of electronic road pricing. "Sometimes electronic pricing can be a solution for the traffic but sometimes I think a collaboration system electronic and manual system could be integrated to be a solution in Jakarta because not all the people in Jakarta support electronics," said one motorist. "I think we need more, wider roads," added another motorist. "The ERP will not have any effect on congestion." Jakarta is struggling to keep vehicle population down, and it hopes electronic road pricing, which means higher costs for private vehicles, will help to solve the problem. At the same time, it is improving the public transport infrastructure to encourage motorists to turn to buses and trains instead. Source: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/indonesia-motorists-to/1886608.html We are skunk and they are copy cat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 Make them pay copy right. 10 cents per car. They have millions of cars in Jakarta. We will be rich. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 You mean pappy will be rich .... Make them pay copy right. 10 cents per car. They have millions of cars in Jakarta. We will be rich. I am sure some hero will chop down the gantries and sell it to garang guni... indo is a very different place 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celicar Turbocharged June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 However, transport analysts are not convinced. "This is like a publicity stunt where they just put some fancy gantries in the middle of the road," said Yoda Adiwinarto, country manager at the Institute for Transportation and Development Policy. He felt a disturbance in the force. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 (edited) You mean pappy will be rich .... I am sure some hero will chop down the gantries and sell it to garang guni... indo is a very different place Chop down the gantries and sell it for scrap like boleh land family business stealing manhole covers. Edited June 2, 2015 by Jamesc 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacteria83 Turbocharged June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 (edited) They nv come here to do case study? Indo bro let me tell you it is not working!! to my malaysia bro Najib the solution to 1MDB debt is right before you. Edited June 2, 2015 by Bacteria83 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 They have no lack of land mass, all they have to do is to use the money to build more roads. Maybe they are trying to raise funds thru erp but dunno where to go start. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 Hard to do so. Not every car comes with iu unit. Even u install whole jakarta cars with iu, there are many cars from bandung or other part of Java entering the city itself. And one more thing, do not ever trust indonesian gahmen. They always say end of year is the target, just like the Jakarta MRT project that was targetted for completion 10 years ago 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 (edited) end of the yearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (the year can drag one ...) Hard to do so.Not every car comes with iu unit. Even u install whole jakarta cars with iu, there are many cars from bandung or other part of Java entering the city itself.And one more thing, do not ever trust indonesian gahmen. They always say end of year is the target, just like the Jakarta MRT project that was targetted for completion 10 years ago Edited June 2, 2015 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrocarbon Turbocharged June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 end of the yearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (the year can drag one ...) Next year, it will be a typo by journalist. Either they meant to say the trial will be implemented by the end of the year, or the year typo salah, should be 2045.. (number pad hit wrongly).. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Turbocharged June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 It is not easy to implement erp in a large country. Easier to just set up toll booths and collect the fee for using the road 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 It is not easy to implement erp in a large country. Easier to just set up toll booths and collect the fee for using the road But toll booth hard to implement in tight city expressway or flyovers. Unlike ERP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcf777 Turbocharged June 3, 2015 Share June 3, 2015 (edited) ERP can wait. Issue COE they will be Huat Huat..... Edited June 3, 2015 by Mcf777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Turbocharged June 3, 2015 Share June 3, 2015 It won't work cos not many cars will pass through the gantries due to the horrible jam.....hahaha..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shull Turbocharged June 3, 2015 Share June 3, 2015 (edited) With the current Jakarta Governor... it may just become a reality... This guy is a no nonsense fella.. But the problem is, how are they going to install in all the existing cars on the road now? Edited June 3, 2015 by Shull ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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