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Arrrrrrrrrrr.......................... we have a IVU (In Vehicle Unit) installed in our cars for ERP. Now a IHU (In Human Unit) device to carry for those frequent trains & buses commuters... :slow:

 

 

CNA : LTA looking to develop hands-free payment on buses, trains

 

 

SINGAPORE: Commuters are now a step closer to being able to board a bus or take the train without having to fumble for their fare cards, after the Land Transport Authority (LTA) on Thursday (Nov 18) called a Request for Information (RFI) exercise seeking the industry’s views on a “hands free” Automatic Fare Collection (AFC) system.

 

LTA said it will use the information gathered from the exercise to develop requirements for a proof-of-concept trial by the end of next year.

 

Based on the RFI document seen by TODAY, the LTA is considering two concepts: Walk In Walk Out which allows the presence of the commuter to be detected at the entry and exit of the system, or Be In Be Out where the presence of the commuter is tracked throughout the system to determine the fare that he has to pay.

 

The start of the RFI exercise came about three months after LTA launched a trial - in partnership with Singtel, Sony, EZ-Link, NETS and TransitLink - where 200 participants will use a smartband encoded with a digital CEPAS card to pay for their bus and rail journey by holding their wrists to the fare card readers. Both the trial and the RFI exercise will end on Feb 29.

 

The RFI document stated that the envisaged system will use a medium “such as a contactless media, mobile smart phone or similar device to track commuters’ movement through the rail and bus transit system”. It said the rail transit system will be gated with its barriers in “normally open state “. These will close when “an invalid or no-ticketing intrusion” is detected. On buses, alerts will be sent to the bus driver when such instances occur.

 

Commuters TODAY spoke to welcomed the idea. Public relations associate Angeline Wong, 24, recounted how there were times when she had to miss the train because she could not get her fare card out of her bag in time.

 

Ms Crystal Huang, a 56-year-old human resource executive, however, pointed out that the “hands free” system might result in some inconvenience. “Now I can see how much money (is left) in my EZ-Link card, but with this system, does it mean that I always have to check the stored value at the control station?,” she said.

 

Other commuters wondered if the system could deduct money from multiple smart cards or devices which a person is carrying. “Will I be paying twice for a trip if I have my ATM card and EZ-Link card with me?” said Ms Hui Shan, a 23-year-old research assistant.

 

Dr Walter Theseira, a senior lecturer at SIM University (UniSIM), said that a “hands free” system would be ideal for Singapore as the vast majority of commuters already pay for their trips using contactless cards. Otherwise, there will be a bottleneck at the entrance of buses with some commuters trying to pay by cash. “It’s a natural progression from the current system,” he said.

 

Agreeing, UniSIM adjunct associate professor Park Byung-joon said the system will help to smoothen the process of boarding during the peak hours.

 

Still, he felt it was not a development that would excite commuters. “I don’t think this is a major breakthrough to make commuters happy,” he said.

 

 

 

Link : http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/lta-looking-to-develop/2274310.html

 

 

If this carry-on IHU device have GPS capabilities, now the authority can say : "You Can Run But You Can't Hide" ... :XD:

 

Hmmmm....... not a bad ideal, got public toilets, no need to dig for coins.... :ignoring:

 

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So that commuters can continue using at their phones thru-out... no need to be distracted -_-

Actually I feel ez link card technology is good enough already. No need to go further. What Lta should do is to integrate ez link card to in sync to car IU reader. Like that we just need ez link card only no need cash card.

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fundamental issue is trains and buses have to be reliable and available. the rest talk later.

 

to me, this is unnecessary.

 

same as the initiative to install CCTVs at certain bus stops to observe traffic flow. I mean, can only see the bus stop is crowded but cannot tell which buses the commuters are taking, some more, need eyes to look at the CCTV footage. believe all these data should be captured already on the bus ez-link terminals.

 

and we wonder why productivity figures are low ... duh ... [grin]

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Yeah, its totally waste of money. 

 

Did they even ask the public about we think before they give the go ahead?  Who is working for who now?

 

There are many stupid projects that govt did, without even asking the public's opinions.

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why waste money on such R&B, might as well spend it by making our road less bumpy with proper resurfacing.

 

If not like that, How LTA maintain high COE bidding ...... :wut:

 

Money come from where ?  You know, I know .... :serious-business:

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Like that, those restaurants will also tap into the system of this device. Whether you eat or not, the moment you walk into the restaurant door, $1/- deducted..... :omg:

 

So goes with the hotels, shopping centres and Gov buildings ... :lll._.: .   "You Enter You Pay"    

 

Lucky Plaza every sunday very the happy .... :secret-laugh:

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Like that, those restaurants will also tap into the system of this device. Whether you eat or not, the moment you walk into the restaurant door, $1/- deducted..... :omg:

 

So goes with the hotels, shopping centres and Gov buildings ... :lll._.: .   "You Enter You Pay"    

 

Lucky Plaza every sunday very the happy .... :secret-laugh:

 

Sounds like most tea cafe I visit in HK. Once u seat down, waiter automatic serve a cup of tea. Even if you wana leave w/o ordering anything, still need to pay a minimum charge. :wacko:

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So that commuters can continue using at their phones thru-out... no need to be distracted  -_-

 

This technology is already available, it's called the handphone case with card holder. Just put the EZ-Link card in the card holder and tap the entire phone at the reader. I'm already doing that, easier than taking out my wallet, especially when most people would be playing with their phones while waiting for bus/train.

 

Reminds me of the joke where NASA spent billions to research for a ballpoint pen that can write in zero-gravity in space. The Russians used a pencil.  [laugh]

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with all the security issue over the world, shouldn't they make the passing through slower including tapping a card and going over security scanning?

 

with this walk-in walk-out, then everyone can walk through and no one do the checking!  [sweatdrop]

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with all the security issue over the world, shouldn't they make the passing through slower including tapping a card and going over security scanning?

 

with this walk-in walk-out, then everyone can walk through and no one do the checking!  [sweatdrop]

 

Cos we trained our tactical police officers only for demo niah, no real actions...... 

 

With this, maybe got actions ... [sly]

 

But our checkpoints with so many barricades, "S" course & checks and yet, one BMW, one Merc and one Kenchil drove through.... :slow:

 

The Kenchil lady drove until Police Cantonment Complex or MFA, I forgot which place .... :XD:

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with all the security issue over the world, shouldn't they make the passing through slower including tapping a card and going over security scanning?

 

with this walk-in walk-out, then everyone can walk through and no one do the checking!  [sweatdrop]

 

When I was in Denmark earlier this year, I think they more advance. There were no gates at all. Just purchase the ticket at the ticketing machine, take escalator down to mrt and hop on the mrt.

 

No checks at all. Very very very advance.

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When I was in Denmark earlier this year, I think they more advance. There were no gates at all. Just purchase the ticket at the ticketing machine, take escalator down to mrt and hop on the mrt.

 

No checks at all. Very very very advance.

 

 

that was advance in society, meaning TRUST!   [thumbsup]

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