Mason016 Supersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 Maybe Kylo took cue from his beloved grandpa and wipe out his uncle's "younglings"; the blow's so emotionally devastating that why Luke's gone into retirement mode, just like Yoda before him. Yoda went to Dagobah to learn how to become a gui after he die just like Obi Wan. Maybe Luke went to seal himself up in a cave to learn the same skill. Luke, by now, can stop an imperial star destroyer liao ba or so say the old books! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrocarbon Turbocharged December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 Just caught the show and here is my take from a SW fan, not the hardcore type but I know pretty much more than the average folks. Perhaps its me but when I notice an overwhelming hype for this movie I sort of adjusted my expectations for this movie. I mean who are we kidding here, the original star wars trilogy is not exactly Oscar material and the actors, brash and unpolished that time weren't exactly good either. Just that it has a epic concept that captured the hearts of many. In fact the only real good SW movie is Empire due to the famous plot twist. Yes, the original storyline isn't Oscar material, but the current one isn't better, what with the plot holes and all. I would have expected improvements after 6 films... Ep7 IMHO isn't as bad as what most had made it to be. Its not going to bag Oscars but its not a rotten tomato either. Lets not be too quick to judge the new characters and their abilities cos we knew so little of them. If you think about it we don't even know much about Finn or Poe. My guess is ep 8 and 9 will expend more on that. As for kylo ren, I don't see a villain that is weak, I see a young man who is conflicted about his abilities and looks to be a very interesting character. Cool level headed evil is kinda clique anyway. He may potentially become good. His tears with his father is genuine and yell a lot about his doubt even for the dark side. Its also noted that he is not a Sith (not a Darth unlike Darth maul) but a apprentice, and a young one. Anakin goofed before in ep2 and now it's his turn. Ill be watching him carefully. My issue was that he came out too strongly at the start, when they were slaughtering the village / capturing Poe... That led my expectations to be higher than it should. Look at Darth Maul, he was awesome when he turned up (fighting Qui-Gon Jinn on Tatooine) and didn't stop being awesome all the way through Ep 1 (til he got killed). Kylo just became a whiney brat after a while.. As for the story, I think the writers intention us to let us re experience the whole magic of what made SW great hence the similarities in the plot, right down to the new death star and its oscillator reactor having the same shape as the exhaust vent in the original death star. When then the resistance is discussing the plans to destroys the starkiller planet I get the vibe from the acting like "yup, its clique, yup the bad guys probably knows we are going to do it....but we are still doing it anyway. I like the lightsaber fights. Simple but effective. Sure it doesn't have that acrobatic nature from the prequels but the whole jedi order was destroyed along with the lightsaber fighting forms and tactics. They basically start from scratch. Anyway fight that are too choreographed doesn't look realistic. After watching Ep 3, Ep 7 lightsaber battles seem to be thrown in as a sort of afterthought, just to appeal to the fan base. Ep 4, when it came out, captured people's imaginations. It was new, and gave kids something to look forward to. Maybe, now, with all the CGI around us, we are used to stuff like this and Ep 7 wouldn't have made much of a difference, but I'm still disappointed. In the whole my only grips are: -the redundancy of captain plasma's character Agreed -is it wise for han solo to be killed off so fast on the trilogy Agreed -no memorable music. Ep1 is a bad movie but at least the duel of fates nailed it. Other than what I am pretty happy that it appears to be better than the prequels, ep4 and ep6. 9/10 for casual viewers 7.5/10 fans. Not agreed... 5/10 more like... =X 1/10 hardcore fans Agreed Nah, added my thoughts in your spoiler tag... Only the Jedi/Sith can do that I think. The republic despite being in power for 30 years, still so lok cock lol. Is Finn a clone? Kylo Ren seemed to suggest so. I don't think Finn is a clone. Kylo was asking the other commander why can Finn disobey their orders. And after the Clone wars, stormies were recruited from all the star systems and the clones phased out. That's why in Ep 4, the stormies were of different heights and such. Finn is not a clone. Only the initial batches of clone troopers in episode 1-3 are clones. Thereafter are usual taken from birth or at a very young age. There might be older or senior clones in the ranks. Shouldn't be older / senior clones in this case also. Ep 4 onwards, stormies weren't clones, right? And in Ep 2, the Kamino cloners said that the clones had their growth rate accelerated. So they grew up 2x as fast. Probably died in half the time too.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 ha the hero/heroine always need to start on a dusty dirty planet and must be good scavenger/technician and understand droids and a natural hot shot pilot ... haha ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 Yoda went to Dagobah to learn how to become a gui after he die just like Obi Wan. Maybe Luke went to seal himself up in a cave to learn the same skill. Luke, by now, can stop an imperial star destroyer liao ba or so say the old books! Think you'll need many jedi to achieve that lol. I think that they did something like that in Yavin 4. But that was the concerted strength of all the jedi disciples Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 and a natural hot shot pilot ... haha ... They are at one with the force, just like using lightsabers, only the very best of pilots like Wedge Antilles and this new Black leader Ace can match them. I don't think Finn is a clone. Kylo was asking the other commander why can Finn disobey their orders. And after the Clone wars, stormies were recruited from all the star systems and the clones phased out. That's why in Ep 4, the stormies were of different heights and such. Ep 4 onwards, stormies weren't clones, right? And in Ep 2, the Kamino cloners said that the clones had their growth rate accelerated. So they grew up 2x as fast. Probably died in half the time too.. Thanks, just got confused by what he said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 Luke look so constipated ... need to bring him to KTV and use the force there ... universe can save later lah ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 bloody ASK villain, aka Strawberry gen. Looks fag to me...hahahah agree with all. Saw it yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 They are at one with the force, just like using lightsabers, only the very best of pilots like Wedge Antilles and this new Black leader Ace can match them. Thanks, just got confused by what he said. wow, you a serious Star Wars fan ? me just watch watch only so found it OK entertainment. for me, I thought the Dune series got potential but after one movie it fizzled out ... guess not exactly theme park and merchandising material ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 bloody ASK villain, aka Strawberry gen. Looks fag to me...hahahah agree with all. Saw it yesterday. Big big nose. My friends said he looks like a young severus snape haha can do a harry potter - SW crossover Luke look so constipated ... need to bring him to KTV and use the force there ... universe can save later lah ... no veggies on that rocky island, he may well be constipated 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 no veggies on that rocky island, he may well be constipated View looks like some place out of hobbit land....skali, you see this fella....hahahah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 wow, you a serious Star Wars fan ? me just watch watch only so found it OK entertainment. for me, I thought the Dune series got potential but after one movie it fizzled out ... guess not exactly theme park and merchandising material ... That's the reason why yoda, a small green alien, can fight with dooku and Palpatine. As long as you're one with the Force, you won't be a free frag lol. And that's the reason why the lightsaber fight against kylo ren, Rey managed to do that. Actually in the books, the training of a Jedi as what Luke tried to teach his disciples, there was hardly any mention of light saber training. Similarly just like yoda didn't train Luke to use a lightsaber. Much of a jedi training is physical conditioning, mental exercises. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 bloody ASK villain, aka Strawberry gen. Looks fag to me...hahahah agree with all. Saw it yesterday. yup, Rey tied up in a chair ... would have done it differently ... but well, just me ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 yup, Rey tied up in a chair ... would have done it differently ... but well, just me ... you bloody hell...thinking of this chair ah 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason016 Supersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 wow, you a serious Star Wars fan ? me just watch watch only so found it OK entertainment. for me, I thought the Dune series got potential but after one movie it fizzled out ... guess not exactly theme park and merchandising material ... They did release a mini-series for Dune a few years back. The Dune novels can get confusing. I re-read them like 4-5 times each. I read the post Chapterhouse novels, didn't like them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 View looks like some place out of hobbit land....skali, you see this fella....hahahah got mah ... he is Supreme Leader Snoke this time ... both played by Andy Serkis 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 you bloody hell...thinking of this chair ah this is one possibility ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 They did release a mini-series for Dune a few years back. The Dune novels can get confusing. I re-read them like 4-5 times each. I read the post Chapterhouse novels, didn't like them. I liked Dune directed by David Lynch, felt it was close to the spirit of the novel. But the Dune series also got a bit too expanded after awhile so I stopped after Book 3. Heard about the mini-series but did not watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear December 21, 2015 Share December 21, 2015 I don't quite understand... Kylo already sensed something is not right with FN-2187 and why didn't he do something? ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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