Limwsv 5th Gear December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 (edited) no matter how, COE system can not be abandoned, and cannot increase COE quota anymore, implement OCS soonest, otherwise Singapore really will become a big carpark, everyone owns a car but cannot drive due to massive jam. I will agree with you that your approach, reduce COE quota will also solve the problem of congestion. Our goals are the same, just that the path are different. However, I believe that increasing operation cost of cars is a better choice because it means that everyone still have an option to use their car when public transportation is sub-optimum. Example, bulky items from Ikea, travel to Malaysia, grocery from outlying suburbs, or the bro that needs to race his RC boats Your solution eliminates that option altogether for a lot of people. Also, increasing operational cost solution offers the car industry and ancillaries support services better economic prospects, yours reduces their opportunities. So, increasing number of COEs but increasing operational cost is offers a more solution that results in better benefits. Edited December 29, 2015 by Limwsv ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/parts-of-civic-district-and-cbd-to-go-car-free-on-sunday-mornings-next-year?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#xtor=CS1-10 Looks like they are really testing out if it is possible to have lesser cars on the roads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashbang Turbocharged December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/parts-of-civic-district-and-cbd-to-go-car-free-on-sunday-mornings-next-year?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#xtor=CS1-10 Looks like they are really testing out if it is possible to have lesser cars on the roads. Don't miss this important point: "The roads in the Civic District and CBD are chosen because there are many points of interest along the way such as historic landmarks, and these roads are under-utilised on Sunday mornings." Do you think they will close popular roads at popular timings? This is Singapore. Pragmatism still rules. Honestly with the state of public transport as it is, the government won't be touching car ownership for a while. To forcefully reduce car ownership while public transport is facing issues would be suicide. One thing at a time, fix the public transport and ensure it has capacity, before thinking of moving people from private transport to public transport. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porker Turbocharged December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 Good move. More connectivity for people makes it easier to achieve. But people should really learn to walk a little bit more and complain less on walking distance even if the train station is a little distance away from your destination. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmttan 4th Gear December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 To me, his definiton of car-lite city mean: Cars are only for the rich and elite, peasants take MRT and buses. Simple. CAPISCE? with this definition, I am counted as the rich and the elite, so are many of you :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titarium 3rd Gear December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 Agree to the idea of reducing cost of Car Ownership , and increasing Car Operating Cost. At least people can have a choice to have one when needed to , also gives life to the automotive industry in SG. To add on , since to make the City Car Lite , also to request to make it Bike Friendly as well , as for those travelling to diff places to have a safe option to commute . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 Don't miss this important point: "The roads in the Civic District and CBD are chosen because there are many points of interest along the way such as historic landmarks, and these roads are under-utilised on Sunday mornings." Do you think they will close popular roads at popular timings? This is Singapore. Pragmatism still rules. Honestly with the state of public transport as it is, the government won't be touching car ownership for a while. To forcefully reduce car ownership while public transport is facing issues would be suicide. One thing at a time, fix the public transport and ensure it has capacity, before thinking of moving people from private transport to public transport. Pedestrian Night to return in 2016 on Jan 2; bus services diverted due to Orchard Road closurehttp://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/pedestrian-night-to-return-in-2016-on-jan-2-bus-services-diverted-due-to-orchard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 Don't miss this important point: "The roads in the Civic District and CBD are chosen because there are many points of interest along the way such as historic landmarks, and these roads are under-utilised on Sunday mornings." Do you think they will close popular roads at popular timings? This is Singapore. Pragmatism still rules. Honestly with the state of public transport as it is, the government won't be touching car ownership for a while. To forcefully reduce car ownership while public transport is facing issues would be suicide. One thing at a time, fix the public transport and ensure it has capacity, before thinking of moving people from private transport to public transport. But they are starting already. First the pedestrian night at orchard. Now this. Wonder where will be the next place they will test this out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 The LTA tagline is "give your car a break". But in our mind our tagline to LTA is "will the train delay/breakdown happen today, tomorrow or ??". Which do we have more faith in? The trains or our cars. Needless to say ppl have more faith in their cars. To try to entice ppl to move away from their cars may prove challenging unless there are significant changes. I think the plans to implement electric car sharing or even driverless vehicles are not easy to adopt becoz we have the same work/school schedules. Govt can only stagnate the vehicle growth like what they are doing now. Moving so many ppl around in such a confined island may prove too much by 2030. Only time will tell. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 But they are starting already. First the pedestrian night at orchard. Now this. Wonder where will be the next place they will test this out. Why not Bkt Timah Road on Sunday morning for TdF wannabe? [thumbsup] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 The LTA tagline is "give your car a break". But in our mind our tagline to LTA is "will the train delay/breakdown happen today, tomorrow or ??". Which do we have more faith in? The trains or our cars. Needless to say ppl have more faith in their cars. To try to entice ppl to move away from their cars may prove challenging unless there are significant changes. I think the plans to implement electric car sharing or even driverless vehicles are not easy to adopt becoz we have the same work/school schedules. Govt can only stagnate the vehicle growth like what they are doing now. Moving so many ppl around in such a confined island may prove too much by 2030. Only time will tell. Look at the attached stats. Total vehicle population is close to 1mn or 1 vehicle per 5 human. Look at number of cars from 2013 - 2015. It is reducing. M06-Vehs_by_Type.pdf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 Look at the attached stats. Total vehicle population is close to 1mn or 1 vehicle per 5 human. Look at number of cars from 2013 - 2015. It is reducing. WHoa, 1 in 5 is a lot. Slowly reducing. But still many ppl are hoping for COE prices to drop. Looking at this trend. Dun think it will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 car lite means homes closer to destinations such as offices and schools, and connect homes to destinations by sheltered aircon park connectors. ... with travellator. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoob Supercharged December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 Note "Car-Lite" not "Car-Less"... There is a difference, they already factored in things like trains delay, breakdowns, overcrowded etc... "Car-lite" is easily achieved especially during school holidays... Really less traffic, less jam and smooth drive during every single school holidays... So why not just staggered school hours? It would definitely reduce the car on the road by 60%. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpsexx 6th Gear December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 It just mean prices will go up. Period. Agree w u bro.. typical PAP talk for more $$$ to dig out from car users... want to drive? = $$$$$... Rich = drive car, poor = take mrt, bus or walk! The wealth inequality will be very evident in the years to come... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 The LTA tagline is "give your car a break". But in our mind our tagline to LTA is "will the train delay/breakdown happen today, tomorrow or ??". Which do we have more faith in? The trains or our cars. Needless to say ppl have more faith in their cars. My car works from 7am-9am. Then 6pm to 8pm. 20 hours of break on every weekday. Still not enough? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahbengdriver 6th Gear December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 Agree with some. Be it direct impact on COE or ARF or whatever, these are all taxes. Car-lite means lesser cars and if you want to own cars, you need to compete with others to get a car and cars will cost more. Cant afford....take their DLT2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidz 6th Gear December 30, 2015 Share December 30, 2015 (edited) i do miss admiring cutsy communters on public transport. instead now looking at car butts, side mirrors, rear mirror, center fingers, signal lights, brake light, non-signal idiots, traffic lights, speed cameras, TPs, overhead-ninja TPs, jaywalkers, jb-motorcycles, etc. car-lite? maybe when i retire-lite Edited December 30, 2015 by Vidz ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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