Kzone 3rd Gear September 14, 2017 Share September 14, 2017 Installer usually say I try ....... before I got my set. I do my research in forums and check with some installer. Most of them recommends the 8850 stating high end set. Torn between the 8850 & 5050 I go for the latest 5050 which works well both on Waze n google map. The original audio setting cannot meet my satisfaction. I try n error but still very flat sound. My amp n s/wooder are good system. At last go back to my previous installer expert in sound to "break the code" to set to my desire hearing.u using Android Auto rite? yeah I also don't have problem on Android Auto. The issue here is for IPhone on AppRadio which needs HDMI to work regardless of which pioneer HU... not about 8850 vs 5050. As for sound quality, really depends on tuning skills either ur own or shop ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcchia 3rd Gear September 14, 2017 Share September 14, 2017 Bro, may I know what you did to get your 5050 to show the waze app? I connected my iPhone with the USB port using a normal lightning charging cable but the HU did not show the waze map. And for "break the code", can share more about what breaking the code does and how to go about doing it? Thanks! Hi, U need to dwnload App Radio Live then just connect to the extended usb cable with ligning cable to yr iphone. Just activate Waze n bingo! Same as google map. Photos in yr iphone can be view too. But youtube only audio. Havent meddle for the Image or video yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiyofc 1st Gear September 14, 2017 Share September 14, 2017 Hi, U need to dwnload App Radio Live then just connect to the extended usb cable with ligning cable to yr iphone. Just activate Waze n bingo! Same as google map. Photos in yr iphone can be view too. But youtube only audio. Havent meddle for the Image or video yet. I have downloaded AppRadioLive onto my phone but when I start this app, it just shows a black screen with the words "AppRadioLIVE" and "Welcome ....". And a Logout button. And if I leave the app and start Waze, Waze does not show up on the HU. Is the HU supposed to be able to show youtube video? I only received audio like you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcchia 3rd Gear September 14, 2017 Share September 14, 2017 I have downloaded AppRadioLive onto my phone but when I start this app, it just shows a black screen with the words "AppRadioLIVE" and "Welcome ....". And a Logout button. And if I leave the app and start Waze, Waze does not show up on the HU. Is the HU supposed to be able to show youtube video? I only received audio like you. I dwnload both Appradio n appRadio Live. go to menu to select the connected HP icon, from there u can see yr hp apps like photos, waze etc. press waze n it should appear. Which HU set u using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiyofc 1st Gear September 14, 2017 Share September 14, 2017 I dwnload both Appradio n appRadio Live. go to menu to select the connected HP icon, from there u can see yr hp apps like photos, waze etc. press waze n it should appear. Which HU set u using? I am using z5050 just like you. But when CarPlay starts, I do not see Waze. When you say "go to menu to select the connected HP icon", you referring to which menu? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloverguy2017 5th Gear September 17, 2017 Share September 17, 2017 Need the CD-AH200 cable Provides AppRadio Mode access and control of compatible Android™smartphones Compatible with HDMI or MHL phone inputs http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Accessories/Smartphone-and-iPod-Cables/CD-AH200 Cool, now I am interested to get this. https://www.bigboyscartoys.com/ These are China Androids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloverguy2017 5th Gear September 18, 2017 Share September 18, 2017 (edited) If your 8850BT has USB2 port connected to a USB cable then there is some luck ! I just managed to spend some hours searching for the correct APK to run on my Samsung S5 and Oppo F1S and manage to get my Android Auto to work on my 8850BT. The feeling is totally satisfaction and achievement LOL. Here is the APK you need, should you happen to have the same phone, or similar spec'ed phone. Device Samsung S5 Variant 2.6.573463-release September 12, 2017 Architecture arm Minimum Android Version 5.0+ Screen DPI nodpi Device Oppo F1S Variant 2.6.573464-release September 9, 2017 Architecture arm64 Minimum Android Version 5.0+ Screen DPI nodpi Edited September 18, 2017 by carloverguy2017 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzone 3rd Gear September 19, 2017 Share September 19, 2017 (edited) Hi Bro, Think most of us don't have issues with Android Auto. Sorry if u have posted your issue on Android Auto and I missed it. I've been on Android Auto since day 1 with the USB connection apk installed. The issue some have is unable to display when connected via AppRadio cos it needs the HDMI connection. For the latest HU releases, I'm reading AppRadio no longer need HDMI connection. Just the USB will work, similar to Android Auto. As to why some here wants to use AppRadio and not Android Auto, I have no idea. Android Auto works with both google map & waze for me. If your 8850BT has USB2 port connected to a USB cable then there is some luck ! I just managed to spend some hours searching for the correct APK to run on my Samsung S5 and Oppo F1S and manage to get my Android Auto to work on my 8850BT. The feeling is totally satisfaction and achievement LOL. Here is the APK you need, should you happen to have the same phone, or similar spec'ed phone. Device Samsung S5 Variant 2.6.573463-release September 12, 2017 Architecture arm Minimum Android Version 5.0+ Screen DPI nodpi Device Oppo F1S Variant 2.6.573464-release September 9, 2017 Architecture arm64 Minimum Android Version 5.0+ Screen DPI nodpi Edited September 19, 2017 by Kzone 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrpresident Neutral Newbie September 22, 2017 Share September 22, 2017 Hi guys, I'm using iPhone 6, and is interested in upgrading to either 8850 or 5050. Important things I need: 1) Nagivation on my HU with Google map and Waze (not Apple map!), and control by touching the HU, not touching my iPhone. 2) Control my iPhone's Spotify from HU 3) Integrate with my existing Steering Wheel control button (Honda Jazz original steering wheel/button) Can the above HU models achieve that? Read on the thread that there are a few bros facing issues with using Iphone on hear models :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyDreamCars Clutched October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 Hi guys, I'm using iPhone 6, and is interested in upgrading to either 8850 or 5050. Important things I need: 1) Nagivation on my HU with Google map and Waze (not Apple map!), and control by touching the HU, not touching my iPhone. 2) Control my iPhone's Spotify from HU 3) Integrate with my existing Steering Wheel control button (Honda Jazz original steering wheel/button) Can the above HU models achieve that? Read on the thread that there are a few bros facing issues with using Iphone on hear models :( so far anyone has replied you? I m also facing the same issue as u. Not too sure to get 8850 or 5050. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrpresident Neutral Newbie October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 so far anyone has replied you? I m also facing the same issue as u. Not too sure to get 8850 or 5050.No leh, forum like abit quiet... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 so far anyone has replied you? I m also facing the same issue as u. Not too sure to get 8850 or 5050.Positive for 5050 is that it has a higher definition screen. Can’t comment more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyDreamCars Clutched October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 Positive for 5050 is that it has a higher definition screen. Canât comment moreIf I m using Waze, which requires me to connect my phone via cable direct to the HU rite, means I cannot stream mp3 from my thumb drive then. 8850, I can still play mp3s while I using Waze connect via cable?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongyong Neutral Newbie October 10, 2017 Share October 10, 2017 Yes works well for me. With the AV Adaptor hook up, just put the set into HDMI mode. Everything gets mirrored, including YouTube, twitch, iPhone stock video player etc. However control is from the Phone, can't control anything on the 8850 LCD. Hi Mercur1aI, Just a question: When you mirror the iphone thru HDMI mode, will it display on the roof monitor or rear monitor as well? TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged October 11, 2017 Share October 11, 2017 (edited) If I m using Waze, which requires me to connect my phone via cable direct to the HU rite, means I cannot stream mp3 from my thumb drive then. 8850, I can still play mp3s while I using Waze connect via cable?? yes, burn onto CD and play from CD. or can try streaming mp3 from ur phone via BT. Edited October 11, 2017 by Eyke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrpresident Neutral Newbie October 12, 2017 Share October 12, 2017 what's the major diff between 8850 and 5050? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged October 12, 2017 Share October 12, 2017 what's the major diff between 8850 and 5050? 8850 got 2 usb ports, 5050 only 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiyofc 1st Gear October 12, 2017 Share October 12, 2017 8850 got 2 usb ports, 5050 only 1 1) mute button 8850 has dedicated mute button. 5050 does not have dedicated mute button. You need to press the volume increase/decrease button first and the mute button will show up on screen. That means if you want to map one of your steering wheel buttons to the mute button, may not work for the 5050. Will find out tomorrow when I go to the audio shop to install the steering wheel buttons. 2) graphics 5050 better graphics than 8850. 3) CarPlay & Android Auto 5050 has native support for both CarPlay & Android Auto - plug and play. 8850 only has native support for CarPlay. For Android Auto, need to do some additional work to get it to work. 4) HDMI 8850 has HDMI input. 5050 does not. 5) SD card slot I think 8850 also has a dedicated SD card slot while the 5050 does not. And of course the number of USB ports that Eyke has mentioned. Not sure if there is any other significant difference. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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