Nzy Twincharged May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Features, yeah probably, could it be because dealers like KM and C&C have higher margins selling Korean cars? I mean Koream cars and Jap cars are about the same price now. I used to drive a Kia Cerato Forte and problems come in at the 4th year. Brake cranking unresolved even when I sold it off at 5.5 yrs, keyless entry to driver door spoilt twice in 4 yrs, the FC is horrible. Yeah maybe newer models like the K3 and Hyundai Elantra have improved but Reliability cannot be achieved/perceived by consumers in just a few years. It takes much more than that. Jap makes like Toyota, Honda cemented their reputation since the 80‘s. Beat that? Well, maybe in 10 yrs time. Ps: I drove a Mazda and Kia but not anymore, switched to conti I guess you got a lemon. Based on those motoring websites reviews and other surveys and research that others have done, Hyundai's and Kia's reliability have already exceeded the Japanese already. The oldest Korean car I have driven was a 20 year old Hyundai Elantra. The one before it was renamed the Avante. Conti even worse in terms of reliability for me. Of all the 3 cars we have, my family's conti car go the workshop the most. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1der 4th Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Coz they read the threadstarter requirements (5 ppl to sit in) and thought Jazz/Fit is ok too? but Jazz/ Fit has smaller boot compared to Saloon car. It's a different category. That's why some people like me will always prefer Saloon car over small hatchback car (like Jazz/ Fit, Picanto, Yaris). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imac 5th Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 (edited) Am I weird? I don't find Mazda 3 appealing Dunno what's the hype about. The drive and interior yes! One up the rest. Looks wise i think the elantra looks so much nicer. Agreed with you. Guess that everyone has their own preferences. For myself, both Mazda3 and Elantra does not make it to my list of best value saloon car. My choice is VW Jetta ($99K now) For its futuristic look in both exterior and interior, better looking than most Jap and Kimchi car. Good fuel consumption, spacious interior, excellent brake, quiet, German engineering. Edited May 15, 2016 by Imac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1der 4th Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Agreed with you. Guess that everyone has their own preferences. For myself, both Mazda3 and Elantra does not make it to my list of best value saloon car. My choice is VW Jetta ($99K now) For its futuristic look in both exterior and interior, better looking than most Jap and Kimchi car. Good fuel consumption, spacious interior, excellent brake, quiet, German engineering. I just checked and Jetta is now selling at $104,300. It's definitely more premium than Japanese/ Korean car, but with the recent bad reputation and scandal, I would try to stay away from this brand... for now. http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/volkswagen-still-bugged-by-consumer-complaints http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34324772 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_06 5th Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Agreed with you. Guess that everyone has their own preferences. For myself, both Mazda3 and Elantra does not make it to my list of best value saloon car. My choice is VW Jetta ($99K now) For its futuristic look in both exterior and interior, better looking than most Jap and Kimchi car. Good fuel consumption, spacious interior, excellent brake, quiet, German engineering. Good luck to you... I just checked and Jetta is now selling at $104,300. It's definitely more premium than Japanese/ Korean car, but with the recent bad reputation and scandal, I would try to stay away from this brand... for now. http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/volkswagen-still-bugged-by-consumer-complaints http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34324772 I will never choose a jetta. I am still on manual transmission, albeit a six speed kimchi one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurman Supercharged May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Jetta 104 base model bah. Check out the specs b4 comparing. Hehe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char 5th Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Japanese car still the best and durable . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evidence 2nd Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Between new Elantra n K3, wats the OMV like? Tq for sharing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1der 4th Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Between new Elantra n K3, wats the OMV like? Tq for sharingK3 sgd14,600Elantra sgd14,700 All at base model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingenius Turbocharged May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Jetta got futuristic look ?? I find the new Altis has a slightly futuristic look actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Mazda 3 is always appealing with its price and looks, but the interior ergonomics , especially the leg space is poor. This is usually something that people realise after buting it. the mz3 sedan is ok. Not as spacious as the altis etc but decent. The rear headroom of the mz3 HB is low Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuya 4th Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Agreed with you. Guess that everyone has their own preferences. For myself, both Mazda3 and Elantra does not make it to my list of best value saloon car. My choice is VW Jetta ($99K now) For its futuristic look in both exterior and interior, better looking than most Jap and Kimchi car. Good fuel consumption, spacious interior, excellent brake, quiet, German engineering. Heard lots of horror stories regarding Volkswagen after sales service. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Jetta got futuristic look ?? I find the new Altis has a slightly futuristic look actually. the most modern and best looking (to me) of the saloon cars is the altis. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 (edited) I guess you got a lemon. Based on those motoring websites reviews and other surveys and research that others have done, Hyundai's and Kia's reliability have already exceeded the Japanese already. The oldest Korean car I have driven was a 20 year old Hyundai Elantra. The one before it was renamed the Avante. Conti even worse in terms of reliability for me. Of all the 3 cars we have, my family's conti car go the workshop the most. Not really. My BIL's Kia Picanto goes to the workshop more often than my other BIL's ex mitsubishi lancer. And the lancer was an older car. My altis also less issues throughout my ownership. But all the issues don't affect the day to day running of the car. Just leaks here and there. Like almost a leak yearly for the last 3 years. And its about 7-8th year yet. My BIL himself also said he would avoid getting another kia if he can afford it. Could be it's the entry level model. But i won't label it as more reliable definitely. Edited May 15, 2016 by Lala81 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imac 5th Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 I just checked and Jetta is now selling at $104,300. It's definitely more premium than Japanese/ Korean car, but with the recent bad reputation and scandal, I would try to stay away from this brand... for now. http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/volkswagen-still-bugged-by-consumer-complaints http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34324772 That why I already said..."everyone got their own preferences". No right or wrong if you like Jap, Kimchi, Conti or even Tiong car. Check Saturday ST, HOME Page B3...Jetta is selling at $99,800. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuya 4th Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 Not really. My BIL's Kia Picanto goes to the workshop more often than my other BIL's ex mitsubishi lancer. And the lancer was an older car. My altis also less issues throughout my ownership. But all the issues don't affect the day to day running of the car. Just leaks here and there. Like almost a leak yearly for the last 3 years. And its about 7-8th year yet. My BIL himself also said he would avoid getting another kia if he can afford it. Could be it's the entry level model. But i won't label it as more reliable definitely. Bro, my KIA forte was worse, when I step on my brakes on a downslope, I hear a crank sound and the car doesnt stop. Go to step twice. Brought to workshop was told no issues, brought to outside workshop, they said they tighten some brake issue and it got better for only 3-4 wks and returned. Damn sian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 That why I already said..."everyone got their own preferences". No right or wrong if you like Jap, Kimchi, Conti or even Tiong car. Check Saturday ST, HOME Page B3...Jetta is selling at $99,800. Agreed. Truth is most cars now are at worst a 3 stars out of 5. Many are 3.5 stars and above. Just gotta find the one that ticks the boxes for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch1984 4th Gear May 15, 2016 Share May 15, 2016 but Jazz/ Fit has smaller boot compared to Saloon car. It's a different category. That's why some people like me will always prefer Saloon car over small hatchback car (like Jazz/ Fit, Picanto, Yaris). Hmm depends on what you are going to put in the boot ba. Hatchback you have a more functional boot space, esp when you fold down the rear seats. I was able to transport a 2 seater sofa from IKEA in a Fit. The boot opening is bigger and you can transport larger stuff. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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