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Posted 23 May 2016 - 03:15 PM

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Dear All,

 

Recently saw a banner at the Cnergy Kiosk (along Toh Tuck Ave) showing 'Diesel $0.70', wonder anyone has tried:

 

1. They really have diesel other than CNG ?

2. Is the diesel quality as good as Shell, Mobil, Caltex ?

3. Recommended long-term usage ?

 

Looking forward to your views and feedback !

 

Thanks !

 

 

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 08:32 PM

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Is this legal or illegal business.?Legal means approved by Gov't,should not be a problem...


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 09:30 PM

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Is it diesel or biodiesel??

 

Someone told me some industrial estates are selling it on the open ; but its meant for forklifts and other industrial equipment; or the content is not filtered or meant for euro5 compatibility;

 

Can anyone clear the air

 

 


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 02:20 AM

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Is it diesel or biodiesel??

 

Someone told me some industrial estates are selling it on the open ; but its meant for forklifts and other industrial equipment; or the content is not filtered or meant for euro5 compatibility;

 

Can anyone clear the air

 

My ex-company euro 4 trucks running on such industrial diesel... the millage on all the trucks were extremely high and before I left , Ive never heard of any issue. In fact, most taxi also run on these diesel as what I undestand.


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:33 AM

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this is the problem with being "cheap".  [laugh]

 

People will start to question.

 

If I operate it, I will sell $1.40/L and market it as premium diesel.

 



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 08:13 AM

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There's a SMART diesel at serangoon north selling cheaper Euro 5 diesel as well.
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Posted 24 May 2016 - 10:48 AM

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There's a SMART diesel at serangoon north selling cheaper Euro 5 diesel as well.

Yes i saw that one there... i did not know it was for Euro 5, saw it a few months back, any idea on the pricing??


My ex-company euro 4 trucks running on such industrial diesel... the millage on all the trucks were extremely high and before I left , Ive never heard of any issue. In fact, most taxi also run on these diesel as what I undestand.

i mean have you seen taxi's (the newer ones with Euro 5 engines) topping up ?? there?? 


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 10:59 AM

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Smart Energy http://www.smartenergy.sg/

also at Mandai, Euro 5 diesel, about $0.80

 

My Euro 2 van takes the cheapest diesel at about $0.60, no problem.


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 11:04 AM

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Yes i saw that one there... i did not know it was for Euro 5, saw it a few months back, any idea on the pricing??


 

Last few weeks I think it was around 78cts per litre for diesel (comparatively esso and shell then were at $1.05 before station and CC discounts) but guess it has gone up since Oil prices have picked up.

 

Understand you can buy a member card to give you a discount (not sure how it works though). 

 

Likely you will save around 10ct a litre which adds up I suppose for heavier users but then again if you need to travel there, it might not be worth it.


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 11:22 AM

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looks like a good lobang!



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 11:53 AM

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Is it diesel or biodiesel??

 

Someone told me some industrial estates are selling it on the open ; but its meant for forklifts and other industrial equipment; or the content is not filtered or meant for euro5 compatibility;

 

Can anyone clear the air

 

http://www.smartenergy.sg/

 

Euro5 diesel. 


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 08:15 PM

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Yes i saw that one there... i did not know it was for Euro 5, saw it a few months back, any idea on the pricing??


i mean have you seen taxi's (the newer ones with Euro 5 engines) topping up ?? there?? 

 

Honestly, Im not too sure whether those Taxis are Euro 4 or Euro 5 engines. But I did saw new Sonata cab pumping on those cheap diesel as well. But in the 1st place, I doubt those taxi uncle would care, its not their car and even up the lorry, they will just bring it back to the taxi company for repair.

 

If I remember correctly, the different between those industrial diesel vs Euro 5 diesel are the sulfur content. If the Euro 5 engine pump low grade diesel, the diesel particulate filter near exhaust system will up the lorry very fast and its not cheap to replace that. I could be wrong, not very familiar with diesel engine in the 1st place.


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Posted 20 September 2016 - 08:31 AM

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Anyone has been using SMART Cnergy diesel for a long term? How's the performance so far? As good as diesel from Esso/Caltex/Shell?

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 09:41 AM

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Anyone has been using SMART Cnergy diesel for a long term? How's the performance so far? As good as diesel from Esso/Caltex/Shell?

Too high grade for my lao pork truck Liao :grin:

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 10:19 AM

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Too high grade for my lao pork truck Liao :grin:

you should have gone for early turnover scheme... I think it ended already right??



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 11:06 AM

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you should have gone for early turnover scheme... I think it ended already right??

They give 5% for discount but have to buy new truck, end up all in about120k
I rather renew Coe 43k
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Posted 20 September 2016 - 11:11 AM

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They give 5% for discount but have to buy new truck, end up all in about120k
I rather renew Coe 43k

Yeap ever since they announced this Early turnover scheme and reduced the COEs in this CAT its been spiralling just out of control;  Mine was only like 18K about 6.5 years back also was considered high when it was like just 10K a few months back before I got mine; Damn chialak this goods vehicle cateogary


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Posted 20 September 2016 - 11:52 AM

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Honestly, Im not too sure whether those Taxis are Euro 4 or Euro 5 engines. But I did saw new Sonata cab pumping on those cheap diesel as well. But in the 1st place, I doubt those taxi uncle would care, its not their car and even up the lorry, they will just bring it back to the taxi company for repair.

 

If I remember correctly, the different between those industrial diesel vs Euro 5 diesel are the sulfur content. If the Euro 5 engine pump low grade diesel, the diesel particulate filter near exhaust system will up the lorry very fast and its not cheap to replace that. I could be wrong, not very familiar with diesel engine in the 1st place.

 

We don't know "industrial" diesel source, so we can't tell if it's Euro 5 or not.

But they are filled by trucks carrying diesel to their place. Now, where does these trucks get their supply ?

 

It could be straight from the oil companies refineries producing Euro 5 diesel, in which case you get the same, but without the brand.

Or it could be from some bunkering ships carrying diesel in from elsewhere, in which case you may get lousy diesel.

 

Oil companies will not deny sales in large volume to these trucks, that may end up as "industrial" diesel.

It's business in large volume, why not ?



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We don't know "industrial" diesel source, so we can't tell if it's Euro 5 or not.
But they are filled by trucks carrying diesel to their place. Now, where does these trucks get their supply ?

It could be straight from the oil companies refineries producing Euro 5 diesel, in which case you get the same, but without the brand.
Or it could be from some bunkering ships carrying diesel in from elsewhere, in which case you may get lousy diesel.

Oil companies will not deny sales in large volume to these trucks, that may end up as "industrial" diesel.
It's business in large volume, why not ?

Its sold by either exxon or spc.
They have wholesale price for euro5 diesel for industrial use like forklift, lorry, truck, bus and etc. Do you see these heavy vehicle pump at retail pump? Hehe

Anw, the price at retail pump is higher becos
1. They need to pay for the land which they only have 30 years to use
2. The setup of the station
3. The retailer like NTUC, 7-11 wants earn profit also.
4. Need to have many staff help u pump and wipe window
5. Fake promotion with credit card companies that they jack up price of fuel then later market as CC discount


End up, you see higher price
Anw,becos petrol has a fuel tax, it is highly regualated and can only be sold to retail operator. Diesel different
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Posted 20 November 2016 - 04:18 PM

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Does anyone know if the diesel at Cnergy is Euro 5 compliant?




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