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Posted 23 September 2016 - 06:20 AM

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 08:17 AM

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additional clutch means dual clutches?

 

design looks promising, may rival dct / dsg if proven more reliable.


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Posted 23 September 2016 - 07:21 PM

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Never say when coming or fitted in which coming model.?


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Posted 23 September 2016 - 07:26 PM

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Look like a conventional torque converter type
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Posted 24 September 2016 - 01:30 AM

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Never say when coming or fitted in which coming model.?

 

Read on one of the blogs that it will be first used on the KIA Cadenza.



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Posted 24 September 2016 - 11:29 AM

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additional clutch means dual clutches?

 

design looks promising, may rival dct / dsg if proven more reliable.

 

Was it additional clutches or multiple clutch plates? The later means one clutch but instead of having one plate, it is divided into multiplates which allows more variation in the clutch pressure and take-up rate when engaging the gears which makes for a smoother gear change up or down just like a manual gearbox.



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Posted 24 September 2016 - 11:52 AM

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Was it additional clutches or multiple clutch plates? The later means one clutch but instead of having one plate, it is divided into multiplates which allows more variation in the clutch pressure and take-up rate when engaging the gears which makes for a smoother gear change up or down just like a manual gearbox.

Think normal torque converter clutch has many of these small plates / rings, but I recalled the video mentioned additional clutch, so I queried if there is another similar clutch plate or clutch pack.
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Posted 24 September 2016 - 12:35 PM

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Think normal torque converter clutch has many of these small plates / rings, but I recalled the video mentioned additional clutch, so I queried if there is another similar clutch plate or clutch pack.

 

 

Yes I watched again and at the start of the Q&A about the new tech, there is mention of an additional clutch with the planetary gears... somehow I don't think that's the main clutch mechanism... definitely not a dual clutch implementation like a DCT or DSG since a torque converter is mentioned later and how they improved the efficiencies of their torque converter via some shape changes.



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Posted 26 September 2016 - 01:31 PM

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In fact, Kia is one of rare few companies that have in house transmission R&D. Many others are getting from ZF/Getrag/Aisin etc.

 

But Kia is a leader in the field but I would think they are right to do so since they are studied how the leader's problem and quality are like prior to introducing their own product such as 8sp Auto and 7sp DCT.

 

The video did not show what is the lock up range or from what speed the lockup will start, but if they can introduced the lockup from 1st gear or 2nd gear onward, it will be an excellent product that will rival dual clutch transmission in term of efficiency without trade off of being jerky at low speed but with more "connected" drive feel.

 

By the way, it is a full auto gearbox - slush box.


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 07:23 PM

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Put this gearbox,together with the 1.6 turbo engine in the K3 or K5 will be great. [thumbsup]


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 09:07 PM

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How is it compare to ZF's 9speed?

 


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Posted 27 September 2016 - 07:08 PM

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more gears is good,but make sure the ratio are suitable for our roads,my friend got the latest Mercedes E Class,only at 115 km/h,gearbox then can shift to 9th gear,so at 100km/h,the car only at 8th gear,making it useless here.


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