Showster Twincharged October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 (edited) The Minister has spoken - you don't need that much space! No explicit details or OT tiko directions please. This is about population, housing and nation building. http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ministers-rejoinder-to-no-flat-no-child-belief You do not need much space to have sex. That was the feisty rejoinder from Senior Minister of State Josephine Teo, who oversees the National Population and Talent Division, to a question on whether young people are not getting their flats early enough to have children. The suggestion was that this could be a chicken-and-egg problem. To qualify for the Parenthood Priority Scheme, which gives first- time married couples first dibs on getting a flat, they must be expecting or have a citizen child below 16. But to have a child, some say they need to have a flat first. With a straight face, Mrs Teo declared: "You need a very small space to have sex." ST_20161012_YOUNG12LYB9_2661297.jpg Related Story Build support networks for young parents: Josephine Teo st_20161012_young12y6zi_2661401.jpg Related Story Striving to balance work, life and raising kids millennials2.jpg Related Story Millennials are ‘gung-ho’: Josephine Teo Known for her candid blog posts on dating and marriage, Mrs Teo does not mince her words - think "menstruation" and "cysts" - when it comes to urging young people to look for love and settle down early. In an interview on marriage and parenthood issues last week, the mother of three teenage children tackled issues ranging from infertility to why the Government should not be "too kaypoh" (Hokkien for busybody). She noted that the Singaporean love story has a different arc from that of countries in the West. "In our case, man meets woman, man falls in love with woman, man proposes to woman, they then plan the wedding and do the house," she said. "In France, in the UK, in the Nordic countries, man meets woman, tonight they can make a baby already. They love each other. Both of them partly have their own family, so it is a matter of living in yours or living in mine, and they also don't have to worry about marriage - that comes later," she added. So how about having a couple declare that they wish to have a child in two years and get the flat first? Measures being considered to coax couples to marry and have babies Housing •Reduce the wait for Build-To-Order Housing Board flats Childcare •Increase childcare spaces to two for every three children •Look for suitable spaces in buildings, such as underutilised carparks, that can be converted into childcare centres •Attract childcare teachers through better pay and career planning, and elevate their social status to that of school teachers Caring for babies at home •Match local nannies to those who need them •Train maids to look after babies At the workplace •Get employers to offer flexible work arrangements and promote work-life balance, with the Government taking the lead as an employer "What if they can't conceive? Take back the flat from them? How do you know they really tried to conceive? Can we check whether they use contraceptives? Cannot, right?" she replied, amused. Instead of having the Government poke its nose into the bedroom, Mrs Teo relied instead on persuasion. She urged women to have babies early as they would not know if they are fertile or not. "You never really know that you're not fertile until you try. Unfortunately, it is one of those things. There is no fertility indicator. As a woman you will know, if you have regular menstruation, okay, (there is a) likelihood. But maybe you have a major cyst and how would you know until you attempt to conceive, only to realise that you can't?" The search for love is also not something to be left to chance, she said. "When I meet young people and ask if they go and look for upgrading opportunities, they said 'yes'. I said, 'What about love? Do you go and look for love?' They said 'no'. I said, 'Why not?' They said, 'If it happens, it happens'. Edited October 12, 2016 by Showster ↡ Advertisement 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 (edited) simi minister is this? having sex and having baby is same same but different having sex for shiok can go hotel 81 or sembawang and woodland forest i agree with minister that sex don't need much space Edited October 12, 2016 by Wt_know 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez911 Supersonic October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 I strongly encourage young people to settle down and have babies early. Don't drag until you have fertility problems. Before our country is swarmed by foreigners. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 (edited) who is going to tell their daugther this? even son also no no ... Edited October 12, 2016 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTong Turbocharged October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 Sex small space.. baby need big roof.. for diapers etc etc.. it's call a home.. this M getting a bit ridiculous.. I strongly encourage young people to settle down and have babies early. Don't drag until you have fertility problems. Before our country is swarmed by foreigners. Do your part bro do your part.. you should not discriminate.. why only young ? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 (edited) walao ... our M open mouth matching bolehland M standard? Sex small space.. baby need big roof.. for diapers etc etc.. it's call a home.. this M getting a bit ridiculous.. Edited October 12, 2016 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 (edited) I dunno about the rest of you but the way she put it is not just cold but also not...human. It reminds me of this... Where the egg represents children and the enclosure is hdb flats. The chickens in the chicken farm dun need a lot of space to fxxk and lay eggs. Is this the best she can described it? I'm getting a lot of goosebumps or chickenbumps depending on how she look at Singaporeans. Edited October 12, 2016 by Watwheels 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 (edited) where is AWARE? thousand years ago ... no sex before wedding night thousand years later ... we already accept sex before wedding is perfectly normal and how many really marry their 1st love now she say ... fck and make baby and don't "worry" about marriage? i guess ... she is a 100% supporter for "get on the bus first, buy ticket later" angmoh saying ... "shotgun marriage" when you hold your wedding banquet your wife showcase the big tummy Edited October 12, 2016 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showster Twincharged October 12, 2016 Author Share October 12, 2016 I think she could have rephrased into a question to be more sensitive. Or give some examples / stats of people who have had a decent experience with smaller spaces. Much like how mothers coax children to have grandchildren. It cannot be so direct. Can get married first and plan for children before flat. Don't think she meant premarital. Still quite possible I think. where is AWARE? thousand years ago ... no sex before wedding night thousand years later ... we already accept sex before wedding is perfectly normal and how many really marry their 1st love now she say ... fck and make baby and don't even "care" about marriage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuPerBoRed Twincharged October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 I dunno about the rest of you but the way she put it is not just cold but also not...human. It reminds me of this... Where the egg represents children and the enclosure is hdb flats. The chickens in the chicken farm dun need a lot of space to fxxk and lay eggs. Is this the best she can described it? I'm getting a lot of goosebumps or chickenbumps depending on how she look at Singaporeans. Hens dont even need cocks to lay eggs... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 (edited) no leh ... she reckon man meets woman ... tonight can piak piak RAW liao ... i'm sure all have known more or at least 1 case (friend, friend of friend, relative) who got married very young due to shotgun marriage ... when they piak raw and get pregnant ... they were deeply madly in love too but they never plan ahead before ... so ... it's a no brainer ... what's the final outcome Can get married first and plan for children before flat. Don't think she meant premarital. Edited October 12, 2016 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitanic 6th Gear October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 (edited) I no expert but last night just had sex with my 32 yo gf. at least 400 square feet plus nice bed for that purpose only. Edited October 12, 2016 by Gitanic 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 Hens dont even need cocks to lay eggs... But women need it. See what you have done? Can use the word "rooster"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 young couple need 5 room flat to start with, can roll from one room to another then to the kitchen (like in the porn movie IF....) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xefera 6th Gear October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 who is going to tell their daugther this? even son also no no ... That's why she said that is the Western approach, not for our young couples to follow. Think perhaps we like to plan too much, from education to finding a job to even when to have a baby. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 I think the young ones are having enough sex. Just need to tax more on contraceptives. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 Dun forget in sg truly NEED CAR FIRST before having baby hor @soya Say carry baby la, ferry in laws la knn 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 (edited) I don't quite follow why she needs to bring up about the Western way of co-habiting cos that is definitely frown upon in our Asian culture n whilst I don't think she's encouraging this, her msg could be misconstrued n anyway I don't see the relevance to the issue of young couples wanting a new flat quickly. Or am I missing something here? Edited October 12, 2016 by Spring ↡ Advertisement 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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