Aaronlkl Supersonic March 22, 2017 Share March 22, 2017 Okay, tomorrow, me and @Mustank will go down to Yishun invite this lady to join MCF for effective destress. @Mustank suggest to me about her MCF new nick should be Sunglass Pui Soh but I prefer her nick to be Yishun Penguin Soh because she walks like a Alaska Penguin What you think ? I can't believe the police didn't or can't do anything abt it! Btw, what are the job scopes of SG police? Can anyone enlighten me? ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still2016 Twincharged March 22, 2017 Share March 22, 2017 Yishun again got bowed OA (osteoarthritic) Knees still want to climb up and down stairs very free either for revenge, jealous, or ...... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leinad8919 Turbocharged March 22, 2017 Share March 22, 2017 Okay, tomorrow, me and @Mustank will go down to Yishun invite this lady to join MCF for effective destress. @Mustank suggest to me about her MCF new nick should be Sunglass Pui Soh but I prefer her nick to be Yishun Penguin Soh because she walks like a Alaska Penguin What you think ? Ok. Let's call her Rubbish And Dumpster Xiao...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2BDriver Hypersonic March 22, 2017 Share March 22, 2017 (edited) I can't believe the police didn't or can't do anything abt it! Btw, what are the job scopes of SG police? Can anyone enlighten me? Bro Aaronlkl, Good day. PC would normally advise domestic disputes case with regard "Civil Suit aka 民事诉讼" to complainant for their further legal action, no arrest could be made without criminal element identify by PC present at scene. They would verbally warn the offensive suspect to stop or never repeat their unwanted disturbing act and recording all relevant parties personal particular in their pocket book for duty IO reference about case attended, then they would leave the scene. There is Penal Code Act with regard to this particular offence and punishable by Law at below, the complainant Lawyer would testify against that Yishun fat lady with these 425, 426, 427 coded to court and prosecutor for punishment : Mischief Mischief 425. Whoever, with intent to cause, or knowing that he is likely to cause, wrongful loss or damage to the public or any person, causes the destruction of any property, or any such change in any property, or in the situation thereof, as destroys or diminishes its value or utility, or affects it injuriously, commits “mischief”. Explanation 1.—It is not essential to the offence of mischief that the offender should intend to cause loss or damage to the owner of the property injured or destroyed. It is sufficient if he intends to cause, or knows that he is likely to cause, wrongful loss or damage to any person by injuring any property, whether it belongs to that person or not. Explanation 2.—Mischief may be committed by an act affecting property belonging to the person who commits the act, or to that person and others jointly. Illustrations (a) A voluntarily burns a valuable security belonging to Z, intending to cause wrongful loss to Z. A has committed mischief. (b) A introduces water into an ice-house belonging to Z, and thus causes the ice to melt, intending wrongful loss to Z. A has committed mischief. (c) A voluntarily throws into a river a ring belonging to Z, with the intention of thereby causing wrongful loss to Z. A has committed mischief. (d) A, knowing that his effects are about to be taken in execution in order to satisfy a debt due from him to Z, destroys those effects, with the intention of thereby preventing Z from obtaining satisfaction of the debt, and of thus causing damage to Z. A has committed mischief. (e) A, having insured a ship, voluntarily causes the same to be cast away, with the intention of causing damage to the underwriters. A has committed mischief. (f) A causes a ship to be cast away, intending thereby to cause damage to Z, who has lent money on bottomry on the ship. A has committed mischief. (g) A, having joint property with Z in a horse, shoots the horse, intending thereby to cause wrongful loss to Z. A has committed mischief. (h) A causes cattle to enter upon a field belonging to Z, intending to cause, and knowing that he is likely to cause, damage to Z’s crop. A has committed mischief. Punishment for committing mischief 426. Whoever commits mischief shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 3 months, or with fine, or with both. Committing mischief and thereby causing damage to the amount of $25 427. Whoever commits mischief and thereby causes loss or damage to the amount of $25 or upwards, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years, or with fine, or with both. Edited March 22, 2017 by 2BDriver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic March 22, 2017 Share March 22, 2017 Okay, tomorrow, me and @Mustank will go down to Yishun invite this lady to join MCF for effective destress. @Mustank suggest to me about her MCF new nick should be Sunglass Pui Soh but I prefer her nick to be Yishun Penguin Soh because she walks like a Alaska Penguin What you think ? Don't think she knows how to use internet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 (edited) Yishun... luckily didn't encounter siao lang get thrown off 10th flrhttps://www.facebook.com/BunnyWonderlandSg/photos/a.200913186758810.1073741836.189249407925188/656403951209729/?type=3&theater I can't believe the police didn't or can't do anything abt it! Btw, what are the job scopes of SG police? Can anyone enlighten me? these type will only understand vigilante justice Edited March 23, 2017 by Mockngbrd 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2BDriver Hypersonic March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 Yishun... luckily didn't encounter siao lang get thrown off 10th flr https://www.facebook.com/BunnyWonderlandSg/photos/a.200913186758810.1073741836.189249407925188/656403951209729/?type=3&theater I was disturbed and stressed with this particular 27th.June 2013 sad news of a 82 years old father mishap and I kept it in mind to remind my older friends buddy about vulnerability in ageing. http://news.asiaone.com/print/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20130626-432338.html S'pore dad, 82, dumped like a dog in JB Johor police found the wandering man dirty, hungry and weak after he was said to be dumped by his family. -TNP Rennie Whang Thu, Jun 27, 2013 The New Paper SINGAPORE - The 82-year-old Singaporean was found on the streets of Johor Baru - dirty, hungry, weak. He was picked up by the Malaysian police, repatriated and sent to a home for the destitute here two months ago. RELATED STORIES Deplorable to abandon one's parents, yet it's not illegal They throw parents out over money 1 out of 3 abandoned by children: Malaysia Taiwan mulls jail for abandoning elderly parents Educate children to care for parents, say groups The man is one of a number of elderly Singaporeans who have been abandoned overseas. Social workers say his case is not unique, as Singaporeans have also been allegedly abandoned in Indonesia and China. A source familiar with the case said the man claimed he was abandoned by a family member and had a son in Singapore. While he could walk, he was very weak and in a wheelchair. We are not naming him to avoid embarrassing him. He was taken to Angsana Home under the Destitute Person's Act. His family was subsequently contacted and he is no longer with the home. "He was totally undernourished. I've never seen a Singaporean in this condition. He was like a person from a state with famine," our source said. He also looked like he had not showered in a while. His clothes were dirty. "You could smell him from 10 feet away," said the source. He was grouchy, claiming he was hungry when he was picked up. He appeared slightly deaf, but spoke good English. A Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) spokesman said the Consulate-General in Johor Baru provided consular assistance to the Singaporean and, with the support of the Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF), arranged for his return to the Republic. MSF said they could not comment on matters concerning the family due to confidentiality. Two social workers said overseas abandonment is a cause for concern. Fei Yue Family Service Centres' assistant director Rachel Lee said it can be especially frightening for the elderly when they're not familiar with the surroundings. "It's also not easy to prevent or detect abandonment once the parent is taken out of the country." Said centre manager Frances Lee of Care Corner Family Service Centre (Toa Payoh): "If (abandonment) is happening in Singapore and we're hearing about it all the time, what makes us think they are not being abandoned elsewhere?" Left in Indonesia Ms Lee said she has heard of cases of abandonment in Indonesia. About three years ago, a man convinced his mother to sell her HDB flat and "relocate" to Indonesia, telling her that medical care was cheaper there. The woman, who was in her 70s, suffered from health and mobility issues. He left his mother with a distant relative in a remote village and disappeared with the proceeds from the sale of the flat. He visited her a few times initially, but later became uncontactable, she said. The woman was eventually taken to the Singapore embassy in Jakarta and repatriated. Dumped in Johor About a year ago, Comfort Ville Home nursing care centre in Taman Johor Jaya, launched a search for Singaporean Joseph Tay, who had checked his mother, who was suffering from dementia, into the home for three months and was never seen again. Said staff in charge, Ms Goh Ker Min: "He didn't pay the initial deposit, saying his relative would come and pay for the first two months. "He left his phone number but we couldn't call through. He also left his Singapore address. We asked our resident's relatives to take a look. The first time he wasn't at home, the second time he told them he would visit the home, and shooed them away." A few days after the matter was publicised in June last year, the Singapore Consulate-General there brought Mr Tay's mother back to Singapore, Ms Goh said. She said this was the only instance of a Singaporean defaulting on payment at her home, which has four Singaporean residents and has been housing Singaporeans for the last 10 years. Two other Johor homes said they had not encountered cases like Mr Tay's, but did have Singaporeans owing up to seven months' payment. "Relatives will give cock-and-bull stories about why they cannot pay. At some point, you have to threaten to send the resident back," said Mr Frankie Ker, director of Spring Valley Homecare in JB, where 40 per cent of its 130 residents are Singaporeans. Added Mr Jeremy Yeo, owner of City Heart Care nursing home, at which 30 of the 150 residents are Singaporeans: "It's less of a problem if Singaporeans come here. If their relatives don't want to take care of them, at least we can tell the Singapore Embassy and have them repatriated." Understandable but unforgivable Behind many cases of abandonment and abuse is caregiver burn-out, where the caregiver faces multiple demands and is overwhelmed caring for the elderly, said Ms Melissa Chew, a senior medical social worker at Tan Tock Seng Hospital. Other reasons include relationship issues between the elderly and their relatives. "There could have been divorce, or the children are angry as there was another woman. There could have been strained relationships with the family," said a director at a Singapore home for the destitute. Her home handled at least two cases of Singaporean residents abandoned in other countries in the last five years: One in China, the other at Jakarta's International Airport. "Under the Destitute Person's Act, one has to be penniless and homeless. If we investigate and find that they have a home, we will counsel the family members to take them in." And if family members refuse? "Ultimately it's his own home, the children have to accept it. But every case has its own conditions. We don't want the person to end up with family problems." It may not be just a matter of children rejecting responsibility for their parents, she said. Most cases of abandonment and abuse are carried out by the victim's children, though it can also occur at the hands of siblings and spouses and other caregivers like domestic helpers or even a neighbour, said social worker Ms Odelia Chan of Trans Safe Centre. Ms Rachel Lee said that, while she has been seeing an increasing number of homeless elderly in the last three years, they are very seldom single and tend to have families, some even two wives. "They may have quite a number of children but no one wants to take care of them," she said, adding the majority of them are male, about one woman for every ten men. Annually, she sees 20 or slightly less cases of homeless elderly, one of them even sleeping in his former workplace. "It could be due to trust issues, some had extra marital affairs or didn't support their family well. When they are old, the children don't want them to take care of them and it's not cheap to put them in an old folk's home," she said. Director of the centre, Mr Alvin Chua, added that abandonment usually involves the elderly person's child getting his parent to sell the house, after which they would take away all assets and check him or her into a nursing home or hospital before disappearing. Tracking down a relative can take years, said Ms Chan. She lodges cases with the police, the Commissioner for the Maintenance of Parents, and the Immigration Checkpoints Authority, and checks for leads. RELATED STORIES Deplorable to abandon one's parents, yet it's not illegal They throw parents out over money 1 out of 3 abandoned by children: Malaysia Taiwan mulls jail for abandoning elderly parents Educate children to care for parents, say groups Mr Chua said abandonment is a deliberate attempt to desert. Sembawang MP Ellen Lee, member of the workgroup which proposed changes to the Maintenance of Parents Act in 2010, said it can be considered clear-cut when there is absolutely no contact between parent and child for a sufficiently long time, and in cases such as Mr Tay's in Johor Baru. Family ties More can be done to promote closer and stronger family ties, especially three-generational ties, she added. Former Tampines MP Sin Boon Ann, who was also a member of the workgroup, said the abandonment of parents overseas was not something they considered. He said it is a despicable act and should be criminalised, but the authorities would need to have clear rules as to what constitutes abandonment. "At the end of the day, society needs to go back to the roots of what the family and filial piety is." [email protected] Get The New Paper for more stories. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 wah lau giv birth to ang ku kueh better than those kids 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Atlantis 3rd Gear March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 wah lau giv birth to ang ku kueh better than those kids ya.. sad case... but i think i can understand the actions of the kids.... if possible i would make myself disappear when i'm old, go jb take pill or something. maybe hold a last party with the family and friends.. then poof, gone from their lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcf777 Turbocharged March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 KNN.......... Dont look down on Yislum The Tigeres is roaring 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuPerBoRed Twincharged March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 Must life centre around making money to survive? 知足长乐 http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/jobless-man-killed-wife-before-leaping-to-his-death Jobless so wat... cannot sell house downgrade etc to survive?? useless pr*ck 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronlkl Supersonic March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 This is really inhumane. How could one just simply leave their aged parent in a foreign country to die!!!??? I always prefer to live in another country but I choose to stay in SG cos my aged parent refuse to leave with me to live in a foreign land. That i'm here today.. always kpkb.. I was disturbed and stressed with this particular 27th.June 2013 sad news of a 82 years old father mishap and I kept it in mind to remind my older friends buddy about vulnerability in ageing. http://news.asiaone.com/print/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20130626-432338.html S'pore dad, 82, dumped like a dog in JB Johor police found the wandering man dirty, hungry and weak after he was said to be dumped by his family. -TNP Rennie WhangThu, Jun 27, 2013The New Paper SINGAPORE - The 82-year-old Singaporean was found on the streets of Johor Baru - dirty, hungry, weak. He was picked up by the Malaysian police, repatriated and sent to a home for the destitute here two months ago. RELATED STORIES Deplorable to abandon one's parents, yet it's not illegal They throw parents out over money 1 out of 3 abandoned by children: Malaysia Taiwan mulls jail for abandoning elderly parents Educate children to care for parents, say groups The man is one of a number of elderly Singaporeans who have been abandoned overseas. Social workers say his case is not unique, as Singaporeans have also been allegedly abandoned in Indonesia and China. A source familiar with the case said the man claimed he was abandoned by a family member and had a son in Singapore. While he could walk, he was very weak and in a wheelchair. We are not naming him to avoid embarrassing him. He was taken to Angsana Home under the Destitute Person's Act. His family was subsequently contacted and he is no longer with the home. "He was totally undernourished. I've never seen a Singaporean in this condition. He was like a person from a state with famine," our source said. He also looked like he had not showered in a while. His clothes were dirty. "You could smell him from 10 feet away," said the source. He was grouchy, claiming he was hungry when he was picked up. He appeared slightly deaf, but spoke good English. A Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) spokesman said the Consulate-General in Johor Baru provided consular assistance to the Singaporean and, with the support of the Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF), arranged for his return to the Republic. MSF said they could not comment on matters concerning the family due to confidentiality. Two social workers said overseas abandonment is a cause for concern. Fei Yue Family Service Centres' assistant director Rachel Lee said it can be especially frightening for the elderly when they're not familiar with the surroundings. "It's also not easy to prevent or detect abandonment once the parent is taken out of the country." Said centre manager Frances Lee of Care Corner Family Service Centre (Toa Payoh): "If (abandonment) is happening in Singapore and we're hearing about it all the time, what makes us think they are not being abandoned elsewhere?" Left in Indonesia Ms Lee said she has heard of cases of abandonment in Indonesia. About three years ago, a man convinced his mother to sell her HDB flat and "relocate" to Indonesia, telling her that medical care was cheaper there. The woman, who was in her 70s, suffered from health and mobility issues. He left his mother with a distant relative in a remote village and disappeared with the proceeds from the sale of the flat. He visited her a few times initially, but later became uncontactable, she said. The woman was eventually taken to the Singapore embassy in Jakarta and repatriated. Dumped in Johor About a year ago, Comfort Ville Home nursing care centre in Taman Johor Jaya, launched a search for Singaporean Joseph Tay, who had checked his mother, who was suffering from dementia, into the home for three months and was never seen again. Said staff in charge, Ms Goh Ker Min: "He didn't pay the initial deposit, saying his relative would come and pay for the first two months. "He left his phone number but we couldn't call through. He also left his Singapore address. We asked our resident's relatives to take a look. The first time he wasn't at home, the second time he told them he would visit the home, and shooed them away." A few days after the matter was publicised in June last year, the Singapore Consulate-General there brought Mr Tay's mother back to Singapore, Ms Goh said. She said this was the only instance of a Singaporean defaulting on payment at her home, which has four Singaporean residents and has been housing Singaporeans for the last 10 years. Two other Johor homes said they had not encountered cases like Mr Tay's, but did have Singaporeans owing up to seven months' payment. "Relatives will give cock-and-bull stories about why they cannot pay. At some point, you have to threaten to send the resident back," said Mr Frankie Ker, director of Spring Valley Homecare in JB, where 40 per cent of its 130 residents are Singaporeans. Added Mr Jeremy Yeo, owner of City Heart Care nursing home, at which 30 of the 150 residents are Singaporeans: "It's less of a problem if Singaporeans come here. If their relatives don't want to take care of them, at least we can tell the Singapore Embassy and have them repatriated." Understandable but unforgivableBehind many cases of abandonment and abuse is caregiver burn-out, where the caregiver faces multiple demands and is overwhelmed caring for the elderly, said Ms Melissa Chew, a senior medical social worker at Tan Tock Seng Hospital. Other reasons include relationship issues between the elderly and their relatives. "There could have been divorce, or the children are angry as there was another woman. There could have been strained relationships with the family," said a director at a Singapore home for the destitute. Her home handled at least two cases of Singaporean residents abandoned in other countries in the last five years: One in China, the other at Jakarta's International Airport. "Under the Destitute Person's Act, one has to be penniless and homeless. If we investigate and find that they have a home, we will counsel the family members to take them in." And if family members refuse? "Ultimately it's his own home, the children have to accept it. But every case has its own conditions. We don't want the person to end up with family problems." It may not be just a matter of children rejecting responsibility for their parents, she said. Most cases of abandonment and abuse are carried out by the victim's children, though it can also occur at the hands of siblings and spouses and other caregivers like domestic helpers or even a neighbour, said social worker Ms Odelia Chan of Trans Safe Centre. Ms Rachel Lee said that, while she has been seeing an increasing number of homeless elderly in the last three years, they are very seldom single and tend to have families, some even two wives. "They may have quite a number of children but no one wants to take care of them," she said, adding the majority of them are male, about one woman for every ten men. Annually, she sees 20 or slightly less cases of homeless elderly, one of them even sleeping in his former workplace. "It could be due to trust issues, some had extra marital affairs or didn't support their family well. When they are old, the children don't want them to take care of them and it's not cheap to put them in an old folk's home," she said. Director of the centre, Mr Alvin Chua, added that abandonment usually involves the elderly person's child getting his parent to sell the house, after which they would take away all assets and check him or her into a nursing home or hospital before disappearing. Tracking down a relative can take years, said Ms Chan. She lodges cases with the police, the Commissioner for the Maintenance of Parents, and the Immigration Checkpoints Authority, and checks for leads. RELATED STORIES Deplorable to abandon one's parents, yet it's not illegal They throw parents out over money 1 out of 3 abandoned by children: Malaysia Taiwan mulls jail for abandoning elderly parents Educate children to care for parents, say groups Mr Chua said abandonment is a deliberate attempt to desert. Sembawang MP Ellen Lee, member of the workgroup which proposed changes to the Maintenance of Parents Act in 2010, said it can be considered clear-cut when there is absolutely no contact between parent and child for a sufficiently long time, and in cases such as Mr Tay's in Johor Baru. Family ties More can be done to promote closer and stronger family ties, especially three-generational ties, she added. Former Tampines MP Sin Boon Ann, who was also a member of the workgroup, said the abandonment of parents overseas was not something they considered. He said it is a despicable act and should be criminalised, but the authorities would need to have clear rules as to what constitutes abandonment. "At the end of the day, society needs to go back to the roots of what the family and filial piety is." [email protected] Get The New Paper for more stories. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 Yishun no siao lang..... (but property price will still drop) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 (edited) I can't believe the police didn't or can't do anything abt it! Btw, what are the job scopes of SG police? Can anyone enlighten me? Edited March 23, 2017 by Jamesc 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 This is really inhumane. How could one just simply leave their aged parent in a foreign country to die!!!??? I always prefer to live in another country but I choose to stay in SG cos my aged parent refuse to leave with me to live in a foreign land. That i'm here today.. always kpkb.. Things like this will likely become more common i think. I feel that the younger generation nowadays are less into holding on to old traditional values, as they embrace new ideas, thoughts, practices. Many of the strawberries will grow up to be pampered and spoilt, and might need their parents to take care of them instead of the other way round. The current middle-age group that dumps aged parents are the in-betw group, not so bad yet, but has already thrown out the thoughts that must take care of parents when they grow old. When the young ones see this, they will learn and do even more/worse when it's their turn. Society will become more self-centred, and less supportive/closely-knitted. A sure regression in term of societal/family values. But this is of course too simplistic, as it could well be that the aged parents had totally never discharged duties as parents, or ill-treated/neglected the kids from young, or worse, stole from them to gamble/take drugs, etc. etc. -- resulting in the kids finally felt enough is enough... So should find out more before judging them. Govt should employ more social workers for this... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aaronlkl Supersonic March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 Things like this will likely become more common i think. I feel that the younger generation nowadays are less into holding on to old traditional values, as they embrace new ideas, thoughts, practices. Many of the strawberries will grow up to be pampered and spoilt, and might need their parents to take care of them instead of the other way round. The current middle-age group that dumps aged parents are the in-betw group, not so bad yet, but has already thrown out the thoughts that must take care of parents when they grow old. When the young ones see this, they will learn and do even more/worse when it's their turn. Society will become more self-centred, and less supportive/closely-knitted. A sure regression in term of societal/family values. But this is of course too simplistic, as it could well be that the aged parents had totally never discharged duties as parents, or ill-treated/neglected the kids from young, or worse, stole from them to gamble/take drugs, etc. etc. -- resulting in the kids finally felt enough is enough... So should find out more before judging them. Govt should employ more social workers for this... 做人要饮水思源。 有恩报恩， 有仇报仇。 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2BDriver Hypersonic March 23, 2017 Share March 23, 2017 (edited) got chair somemore, sibeh slacker Feel like giving them my old bar table to match with his high chair and not forgetting a can of korean c0ck coke Edited March 23, 2017 by 2BDriver ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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