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item #5 : Telegram from LKY, Current Location (Glass Atrium 2), LHY fb

 

Location : In Memoriam: Lee Kuan Yew

A commemorative exhibition in honour of the late Mr Lee will be held at the Glass Atrium at level 2 of the National Museum (93 Stamford Road).

Date : 25 March 2015 to 24 May 2015

http://www.rememberingleekuanyew.sg/...hibitions.html

 

#5 Telegram on Display inside showcase, posted 3 Apr

GPGT : http://www.shaunchng.com/blogs/2015/...ational-museum

 

NHB corrected the date to 6 Apr.

 

Telegram in showcase 25 Mar ~ 24 May, in between, 6 Apr got ghost ah?

1958 Telegram can Teleport itself?

 

Ownself pwn ownself. Someone in NHB will soon join edmw jobless thread.

 

Question still remains, is HC the PMO POC?"

 

 

After teleportation... Now time travel...

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Links don't work... but if true... wah wtf.

 

really wanna pull wool over our eyes ah.

More they try cover up, more embroiled they get in their own deception

 

Chey ... and they asked wp cum clean ?

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Indranee also having her say and as expected, PAP MPs close ranks.........

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/demolition-was-not-the-only-option-contemplated-by-lee-kuan-yew-8972664

 

SINGAPORE: The home of late founding Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew at 38 Oxley Road is intertwined with the history of Singapore and so what happens with it is not purely a private family matter, it is also a matter of public interest, said Senior Minister of State for Law Indranee Rajah on Friday (Jun 23). 

In a Facebook post, Ms Indranee explained that, based on Mr Lee Kuan Yew's last will, demolition was not the only option contemplated by him even though he expressed his desire for it.

"Mr Lee accepted that the house may not be demolished and in such case expressed his wishes on what should happen. Essentially he did not want the house to be open to the public," she wrote.

Ms Indranee's Facebook post is as follows:

4 Things You Should Know about the Oxley Dispute

As Singaporeans we are all saddened by the Oxley dispute. I am particularly saddened because I looked after MM’s constituency in his final years and got to see at close quarters what a great man he was. I know how much this would have grieved MM and Mrs Lee.

People have expressed confusion about the things which have been said. Many are trying to make sense of it all.

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The key to understanding this matter is first to get a handle on the issues and some important facts.

Here are 4 things you should know about the Oxley dispute.

1. What does the 7th will actually say?

Serious questions have been raised as to how Mr Lee Kuan Yew's 7th Will was prepared.
However, leaving those aside for the moment, and taking the 7th Will at face value, what does it actually say about 38 Oxley Road?

The relevant part is in paragraph 7 of the Will. It was read out by the Prime Minister in Parliament on 13 April 2015, and this is what it says:

"I further declare that it is my wish and the wish of my late Wife, KWA GEOK CHOO, that our house at 38 Oxley Road, Singapore 238629 ("the House") be demolished immediately after my death, or if my daughter Wei Ling, would prefer to continue living in the original house, immediately after she moves out of the House. I would ask each of my children to ensure our wishes with respect to the demolition of the House be carried out.

If our children are unable to demolish the House as a result of any changes in the laws, rules or regulations binding them, it is my wish that the House never be opened to others except my children, their families and descendants.

My view on this has been made public before and remains unchanged. My statement of wishes in this paragraph 7 may be publicly disclosed notwithstanding that the rest of my Will is private."

Therefore, even based on the 7th Will, several things are immediately clear:

- Demolition was not the only option contemplated by Mr Lee Kuan Yew;

- there are two parts to the clause. The part first expresses his and Mrs Lee's wish, which was for demolition;

- however, the second part recognises that the house may not be demolished for a number of reasons. Mr Lee accepted that the house may not be demolished and in such case expressed his wishes on what should happen. Essentially he did not want the House to be open to the public.

Much of the recent public discussion on this issue has been premised on the assumption that the 7th Will only contemplates one outcome - demolition. But this is not the case.
The Will specifically accepts and acknowledges that demolition may not take place.

2. Why does the Government need to be involved in what happens to 38 Oxley Road? Isn't this a purely private matter?

Mr Lee Kuan Yew's estate and who inherits what is a private matter, but what is to be done with 38 Oxley Road is not purely a private matter.

38 Oxley Road is closely bound up with the history of Singapore. It is the site where our founding fathers first came together and set Singapore on the path to its future destiny. It is where important and historical decisions were made that led to internal self-government, merger and eventually independence. The strategies to outflank the communists were developed there. It is where the People's Action Party was formed.

People will recall that after Mr Lee's passing and before this dispute was made public, there were many calls to turn 38 Oxley Road into a museum or memorial.

At the Parliamentary session of 13 April 2015 the Prime Minister also recounted how when Mr Lee mentioned demolition in his book Hard Truths there was a public reaction as some people wanted the house preserved.

Why is this so? It is because Singaporeans understand the historical significance of the site. 38 Oxley Road is not just any old piece of property. It is intertwined with the history of the nation.

For this reason, what happens to 38 Oxley Road is not purely a private family matter. It is  also a matter of public interest.

This is also reflected in the fact that para 7 of the Will provides for public disclosure.
Because it is a matter of public interest, the Government has to be involved. As DPM Teo has explained, the Government has a duty to take a view from the public interest, historical and heritage perspective while taking very seriously into account the wishes expressed by Mr Lee in paragraph 7 of his Will.

3. What is PM's involvement in Government deliberations on 38 Oxley Road?

None.

He has taken himself out of the equation.

Lee Hsien Loong is the eldest son of Mr Lee Kuan Yew. But he is also our Prime Minister.

As a son he would like to see his parents' wishes carried out. He stated this in Parliament on 13 April 2015.

However, as Prime Minister he would have to consider whether it is in the wider public interest to demolish the House given its historical significance. The answer to this may be different from his parents or his own personal wishes. It is a very difficult dilemma for him.

For this reason, the Prime Minister has recused himself from taking part in any Government consideration or decisions regarding 38 Oxley Road.

At the same time, the Government cannot avoid considering the matter.

Hence DPM Teo set up the Ministerial Committee to consider issues in connection with 38 Oxley Road. Like any other Ministerial Committee, it reports to the Cabinet, except that in this matter it is Cabinet minus PM for the reason stated above.

4. Can we demolish the house now?

No, because Dr Lee Wei Ling is still living there. Mr Lee's wish as expressed in the 7th Will is that the house should not be demolished so long as Dr Lee is still living there.

The Government has said that it will not do anything to the House while Dr Lee is still living there.

Mr Lee Hsien Yang has said that: "My sister is living there and has every intention to live a long life."

There is therefore no need to make a decision on demolition now. It may be decades before a definite decision needs to be taken. The Cabinet at that time will have to make the decision. Most of the current Cabinet Ministers are unlikely to be in Cabinet then.

 

 

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Indranee kinda of slow. All her points have been discussed before. The issues have moved on to more serious questions with ho jinx, lawrence, lucien which only the PM can answer, not other parts of the organs.

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Lawrence wong claims he passed the documents to hsien loong in his capacity as PM!

 

So Hsien Loong must ans why he pass government documents to his private lawyer....

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would the word Nepotism be out of place here ? [:)]

Hey, Singapore system is based on meritocracy ok?!
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Indranee sum up the whole saga. Dr Lee still living there, so government will not do anything. The house will also not be demolished as long as Dr Lee continue to stay in the house as what stated in lky will.

 

She also say something very important, by the time Dr Lee is not staying in the house, there maybe change of cabinet already. So whatever they do now, it may also changed in future.

 

So end up nothing is concrete even if government decide to put the house in heritage as future ministers who took over it may decide to overturn it and say no let's demolish it.

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If you employ people you know or share the bed with

 

Then

 

 

 

 

 

meritocracy is just a bull shit word pap use often

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If you employ people you know or share the bed with

 

Then

 

 

 

 

 

meritocracy is just a bull shit word pap use often

WORD!
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If you employ people you know or share the bed with

 

Then

 

 

 

 

 

meritocracy is just a bull shit word pap use often

Nah..... It's just coincidence that "talent" just happen to appear in a small circle.
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Indranee sum up the whole saga. Dr Lee still living there, so government will not do anything. The house will also not be demolished as long as Dr Lee continue to stay in the house as what stated in lky will.

 

She also say something very important, by the time Dr Lee is not staying in the house, there maybe change of cabinet already. So whatever they do now, it may also changed in future.

 

So end up nothing is concrete even if government decide to put the house in heritage as future ministers who took over it may decide to overturn it and say no let's demolish it.

This saga main issue is not about demolition, it is about in the process of getting the house demolished or not, did PM abuse his authority, are there rules of law? How safe and respect by law a trust set up in Singapore be? or is LHY stirring shit in media defamation PM or speaking the truth that we dun know? This is what Singapore need to know.

 

Not whether when or how the house will or will not be demolished!

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From hardware zone.

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item #5 : Telegram from LKY, Current Location (Glass Atrium 2), LHY fb

 

Location : In Memoriam: Lee Kuan Yew

A commemorative exhibition in honour of the late Mr Lee will be held at the Glass Atrium at level 2 of the National Museum (93 Stamford Road).

Date : 25 March 2015 to 24 May 2015

http://www.rememberingleekuanyew.sg/...hibitions.html

 

#5 Telegram on Display inside showcase, posted 3 Apr

GPGT : http://www.shaunchng.com/blogs/2015/...ational-museum

 

NHB corrected the date to 6 Apr.

 

Telegram in showcase 25 Mar ~ 24 May, in between, 6 Apr got ghost ah?

1958 Telegram can Teleport itself?

 

Ownself pwn ownself. Someone in NHB will soon join edmw jobless thread.

 

Question still remains, is HC the PMO POC?"

 

 

After teleportation... Now time travel...

Now both link down!!! Really dodgy!! You guys uncover more dirt?

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Definitely better than any drama I'd watched. :a-popcorn: :a-popcorn: :a-popcorn:

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