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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:02 PM

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Kobe Steel scandal hits Boeing, Toyota and Nissan

...... Other companies affected by the Kobe Steel scandal include Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Kawasaki Heavy Industries, IHI, Honda, Mazda and Subaru. Kobe Steel said it had no evidence of any safety concerns as a result of the fraudulent certification.

 

GOOGLE OR SEARCH FOR "KOBE STEEL SCANDAL"


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:48 AM

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Japan already has lower safety requirements for their cars.
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:05 AM

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Kobe Steel scandal hits Boeing, Toyota and Nissan

...... Other companies affected by the Kobe Steel scandal include Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Kawasaki Heavy Industries, IHI, Honda, Mazda and Subaru. Kobe Steel said it had no evidence of any safety concerns as a result of the fraudulent certification.

 

GOOGLE OR SEARCH FOR "KOBE STEEL SCANDAL"

 

 

I wonder when did this start, or specifically, when did Toyota start to buy metal that isn't as strong as it should be.

 

Two days ago saw a Toyota Altis scrapped a lorry. The rear left door kanna the sharp rear right corner of the lorry, and then the Altis door dropped and got mangled till unrecognisable...

 

Had posted it in http://www.mycarforu...rt-v/?p=6236747

 

but here's a photo of the door. See can recognise or not?

 

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If that time the metal was stronger, and it's now worse, then really  [sweatdrop]


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:12 AM

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Not strong but can pass JNCAP? :o


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:16 AM

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https://www.bloomber...-over-fake-data

 

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:22 AM

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Not strong but can pass JNCAP? :o

 

u bring your car go STA inspection, pass liao also can breakdown 50 meters down the road. 

 

What more JNCAP.

 

Maybe a case of assume rubber stamping.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:24 AM

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Kobe Steel scandal hits Boeing, Toyota and Nissan
...... Other companies affected by the Kobe Steel scandal include Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Kawasaki Heavy Industries, IHI, Honda, Mazda and Subaru. Kobe Steel said it had no evidence of any safety concerns as a result of the fraudulent certification.

GOOGLE OR SEARCH FOR "KOBE STEEL SCANDAL"

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:27 AM

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I wonder when did this start, or specifically, when did Toyota start to buy metal that isn't as strong as it should be.

 

Two days ago saw a Toyota Altis scrapped a lorry. The rear left door kanna the sharp rear right corner of the lorry, and then the Altis door dropped and got mangled till unrecognizable...

 

If that time the metal was stronger, and it's now worse, then really  [sweatdrop]

 

I have mentioned this story before ... a bmw 3 series jabbed my friend's cateye elantra in the back but only the license plate fell off. whereas the bmw front was damaged quite bad.

 

this actually goes to show that metal is in abundance in Korea and k-cars are damn strong compared to other makers who import their steel.

 

....and naturally k-cars are heavier too.



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:37 AM

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I have mentioned this story before ... a bmw 3 series jabbed my friend's cateye elantra in the back but only the license plate fell off. whereas the bmw front was damaged quite bad.

 

this actually goes to show that metal is in abundance in Korea and k-cars are damn strong compared to other makers who import their steel.

 

....and naturally k-cars are heavier too.

 

in order to meet NCAP, car has to absorb the impact in front. Else everyone would have stuck to having large beam of metal bumper liao like bull bar.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:39 AM

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Kobe Beef good, Kobe Steel not so good
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:40 AM

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The bimmer has done a good job in absorbing the impact.
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:46 AM

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Heng, my suzuki car is not in the list.  It is quite heavy.


I have mentioned this story before ... a bmw 3 series jabbed my friend's cateye elantra in the back but only the license plate fell off. whereas the bmw front was damaged quite bad.

 

this actually goes to show that metal is in abundance in Korea and k-cars are damn strong compared to other makers who import their steel.

 

....and naturally k-cars are heavier too.

My friend's car Citroen banged on a stationary mercs.  His whole front bumper came off but the back bumper of the mercs was still intact and there's no dent at all.
 


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:46 AM

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Lesser chance of being affected if jap brand cars made in Thailand?


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:55 AM

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Lesser chance of being affected if jap brand cars made in Thailand?

Words of consolation.. I like.. cos i'm one of those who own a MIT jap car. hahahaha... :XD:  :secret-laugh:


Edited by Buadongdong, 12 October 2017 - 09:55 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:59 AM

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"no evidence of any safety concerns"?

 

of course they will say lidat lah...if they say yes..then they are opening themselves up to lawsuits involving accidents where the jap cars along with their passengers have been crashed to a pulp...


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:00 AM

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Lesser chance of being affected if jap brand cars made in Thailand?

 

The raw material steel might have been shipped to the Thai factory though ....


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:00 AM

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I wonder when did this start, or specifically, when did Toyota start to buy metal that isn't as strong as it should be.

 

Two days ago saw a Toyota Altis scrapped a lorry. The rear left door kanna the sharp rear right corner of the lorry, and then the Altis door dropped and got mangled till unrecognisable...

 

Had posted it in http://www.mycarforu...rt-v/?p=6236747

 

but here's a photo of the door. See can recognise or not?

 

attachicon.gifScreen Shot 2017-10-10 at 10.24.42 AM.png

 

If that time the metal was stronger, and it's now worse, then really  [sweatdrop]

 

i saw the piece of metal at the center divider. its just the door skin. the door is still on the car. door skins are just wrapped around the door. hitting the corner of the truck , it can be easily sheered off.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:07 AM

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When i collected my new MIJ car i already realised why the hood of the car is so thin and soft. 

Compared to my old korean car it is more solid!

Then after the last servicing i noticed the hood is dented  (see from certain angle) only after i drove home after servicing at C & C. 

Well... :mellow:



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:10 AM

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Slam the rear door of the X-Trail and I was surprised at how hollow it sounded

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:21 AM

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More importantly is does the car score well on crash testing.

All other things are difficult to assess.

 

The shell of a body if u ever seen it color coded is really a myraid of steel parts (normal, high strength, extra high strength). 

 

Always buy a car that is tested by IIHS or Euro NCAP. Not those only JDM or Asean models only.


Anyway if those say korean steel is very tok gong one.

 

If it's their own company division selling to other divisions of their own company. If really got manufacturing cheating, there is no one to uncover lor. All same company.

 

All big corporations are sama sama one lah.


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