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Posted 12 October 2017 - 01:23 PM

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OnePlus is known for its great value smartphones, but you may want to think twice before buying one. Security researcher Chris Moore has discovered that OnePlus' OxygenOS has quietly been collecting a ton of user data and transmitting it to a OnePlus server along with your phone's serial number.

Moore detailed how OnePlus devices record data at various points, including when a user locks or unlocks the screen, which apps are opened, used, and closed, and which Wi-Fi networks the device connects to. While that's fairly standard, it's almost unheard of to tie that data to the phone’s IMEI, phone number, and mobile network names, which means the data can easily be traced back to you.

According to Moore, the code responsible for the data collection is part of OnePlus Device Manager and OnePlus Device Manager Provider. Moore says in his case, the services had sent off 16MB of data in 10 hours.

 

Responding to the controversy, OnePlus revealed it collects two streams of data from all users. The first is termed "usage analytics," which helps it to improve its software. It also adds that this type of data-sharing can be turned off by going into settings, selecting "advanced," and turning off "join user experience program." However, the second stream, which OnePlus refers to as "device information" can't be turned off.

"We securely transmit analytics in two different streams over HTTPS to an Amazon server. The first stream is usage analytics, which we collect in order for us to more precisely fine tune our software according to user behavior. This transmission of usage activity can be turned off by navigating to 'Settings' -> 'Advanced' -> 'Join user experience program'. The second stream is device information, which we collect to provide better after-sales support."

Source: Chris Moore and XDA Developers

 


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 01:35 PM

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Not to long ago,  something similar was said of xiaomi I think.  

 

If anyone thinks that iphone and samsung not doing this also,  he/she may want to think again.   [laugh]  [laugh]  [laugh]


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 01:37 PM

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are u a chinese dissident? then be very afraid. haha



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:15 PM

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last time also accused Huawei.
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:20 PM

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all china companies surely have to comply.

It's just like how kaspersky allowed russian hackers through their software 



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:25 PM

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Is there really anything to be worried about?

 

A typical facebook user would have given them 100x what oneplus is said to be collecting.

 

I think I would be more concerned about this: "Moore says in his case, the services had sent off 16MB of data in 10 hours."

 

wtf... anyhow use my data!


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:46 PM

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Is there really anything to be worried about?

 

A typical facebook user would have given them 100x what oneplus is said to be collecting.

 

I think I would be more concerned about this: "Moore says in his case, the services had sent off 16MB of data in 10 hours."

 

wtf... anyhow use my data!

 

yah lor... if always on the move (no wifi), then one month will have sent 1.15 GB already... very easy will burst the 2 GB plan hor...

 

And my girl's plan is only 500 MB...



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:05 PM

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Everybody also have backdoor lah

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:08 PM

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last time also accused Huawei.

 

I have nothing to hide !! I declare no porn on my phone !


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:24 PM

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Me too!
I only got educational videos :grin:
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:44 PM

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When i was watch tis movie back in 1998, i was tinking...wth to b monitored 24/7 where u r...what u r doin...etc. 

 

Now less than 20 yrs later......it is becoming a reality and fact of life....


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:29 PM

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I have nothing to hide !! I declare no porn on my phone !

u upload all into google drive right? [sly]


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:42 PM

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Not to long ago,  something similar was said of xiaomi I think.  

 

If anyone thinks that iphone and samsung not doing this also,  he/she may want to think again.   [laugh]  

 

Hei...... yours is Xiao Mei Mei lar, gave all your particulars to her when you are in drunk stage inside a KTV back room.....  :serious-business: 

 

What Xiaomi .. :slow: 

 

 

:XD:     :XD: 


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:00 PM

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Google collects the most.... until it keeps giggling and giggling.... [:)]

 

If Windows Mobile is not dead, I will continue to use WM...


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:15 PM

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Google collects the most.... until it keeps giggling and giggling.... [:)]

 

If Windows Mobile is not dead, I will continue to use WM...

 

 

Yea..Google collect alot.

 

To understand abit on how much they collect...go to ur 'Google' app in ur mobile, select Settings then Accounts&Privacy then My Activity (to c wat has been monitored and recorded) or Google Activity Controls to 'control abit'...



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:22 PM

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Yea..Google collect alot.

 

To understand abit on how much they collect...go to ur 'Google' app in ur mobile, select Settings then Accounts&Privacy then My Activity (to c wat has been monitored and recorded) or Google Activity Controls to 'control abit'...

 

At least i use google maps, google search bar etc, the algorithms do benefit myself to some extent if they give better predictions.

 

Give to the phone manufacturer, no benefit to myself.



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:10 PM

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Aiya, every smartphone does that what. As long as you are connected to Internet, data sure will be collected.

 

Scared then buy Nokia brick phone la.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:12 PM

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peasants nothing to lose, rich people more worried their wealth kena expose and kena kidnap. They dun use smart phone and dun carry credit cards.
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:19 AM

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Privacy is a feature: Apple sells more of it

By The Macalope, Macworld Oct 12, 2017 3:00 AM PT

Read critiques of Siri or iCloud of the iPhone and you’ll see a lot of horse-race comparisons to competing products. Google Now is so much better than Siri! Google gets cloud services! Apple doesn’t! iPhones cost too much!

What you mostly won’t see is any reference to one feature where Apple blows the competition away: privacy.

People like to scoff at such trivial concerns, it is 2017 after all. Wake up and smell the dystopia, Apple nerds. The differences between Apple and the competition are usually hard to see.

Not this week, though!

“Google is nerfing all Home Minis because mine spied on everything I said 24/7.”

Yeah, so some of the review units of their new Home Minis Google sent out were recording everything and sending it to Google because of a hardware defect. Oopsies! OK, this was a mistake and Google reacted quickly to fix it.

But you know what’s not a mistake? This:

“Telemetry: OxygenOS secretly collects user data, sending OnePlus a wealth of information.”

OxygenOS is a customized version of Android used by OnePlus on its smartphones. Christopher Moore has one and he noticed that it was collecting and relaying…

…his serial number, details of mobile networks, phone numbers, MAC addresses and even which apps he was running, when and for how long.

Apple collects data of its own, but not all of that and it does so anonymously.

Can you imagine how cheap Android phones will be when they figure out how to take a slice of your soul? So cheap.

Android Central couches the collection OnePlus does as being done “for good reason, as it helps OnePlus improve its software and help with customer support should the need arise.”

Oh, sure! It’s so much easier for OnePlus to improve its devices if you just act like a passive meatsack and hand over all of your information to them. Why not just move into OnePlus-supplied corporate housing? Eat OnePlus-supplied congealed digestible gelatine substitute for breakfast, lunch and dinner? That way they can better help you should the need arise.

It’s always possible that someday management at Apple will change and a few months later the company will issue a series of software updates and, boom, it’ll be sucking up your data like the kids these days suck up. Presumably something they really like, whatever that is.

Validation? Seems like kids always like validation.

But for now, Apple’s record on privacy is head and shoulders above the rest. It wouldn’t let Google get access to more data through Maps. It won’t use more of you data to make Siri better. It refused to unlock a terrorist’s phone.

Whether you’re personally concerned about privacy or not (the Macalope is), you still need to consider it as a feature. Apple sells this feature, it’s part of its marketing and how it differentiates its products from those of its competitors. Android has its own benefits from hardware choice to price to a virtual assistant that’s a little better because it has access to more of you information. That’s also a cost. Any review that doesn’t mention this simply isn’t complete.
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Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:41 AM

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I buy Apple cos I’m the customer.

With Google and sometimes other manufacturers... I am the product.


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