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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:46 PM

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http://www.channelne...h-merah-8784944

 

LTA has opened a new 10km stretch at Tanah Merah Coast Road with a new feature which is the first in SG: on-road cycling lanes, 2m wide and supposed to cater to serious speed cyclists. 

 

Cyclists are happy but this actually poses a safety risk to both cyclists and motorists alike. I drive along this road every day, and I have encountered a few times at cross-junctions and T-junctions where both the cyclist and motorist think they have the right of way, and there is a near-miss. 

 

Motorists are supposed to stop on the outermost vehicle lane and not inside the cycling lane if there is a need to stop the vehicle, however most vehicles still stop within the cycling lane in order not to obstruct traffic. This in turn poses a safety risk to the speed cyclists who may be bending down and may not be able to stop in time to avoid collision with the stopped vehicle. 

 

This stretch of road is also frequented by large trucks and heavy vehicles, which adds to the risk due to the truck height and bigger blind spots. 

 

My view is that our motorists and cyclists should be briefed or given some guidelines on the usage of the new feature, such as the one in the link below. Not sure if the latest Basic or Advanced Theory Test has included this new feature? 

 

https://movehappy.sg...d-cycling-lane/

 

Any thoughts are welcome. 


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 11:50 PM

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In my humble opinion, for this to ever work, we need a few things first:

  1. Patience & tolerance - both cyclists and motorists have to be always conscious, tolerant and patient to other road users. Just because motorists pay road tax does not constitute to them having more privileges (NOT rights) to be on the road. No one is any more deserving that the other. Likewise, cyclists should not behave like they ought be respected and given a kilometer's allowance to ride as they please. You want respect? Give it first, and earn it back.
  2. Awareness - I personally found the 1.5M campaign to be moderately helpful, and perhaps more continual awareness drives, and education is required. Yes - one can complain that we have so much going on, so is spending more on campaigns going to even help at all? Well, better to have tried and failed, than not to have tried at all. In not even bothering to try, you have limited yourself to fail upfront immediately.

Just my humble tuppence.


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 11:56 PM

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In my humble opinion, for this to ever work, we need a few things first:

  • Patience & tolerance - both cyclists and motorists have to be always conscious, tolerant and patient to other road users. Just because motorists pay road tax does not constitute to them having more privileges (NOT rights) to be on the road. No one is any more deserving that the other. Likewise, cyclists should not behave like they ought be respected and given a kilometer's allowance to ride as they please. You want respect? Give it first, and earn it back.
  • Awareness - I personally found the 1.5M campaign to be moderately helpful, and perhaps more continual awareness drives, and education is required. Yes - one can complain that we have so much going on, so is spending more on campaigns going to even help at all? Well, better to have tried and failed, than not to have tried at all. In not even bothering to try, you have limited yourself to fail upfront immediately.
Just my humble tuppence.
hey bro thanks for your response!

for the 1.5m campaign, are you referring to this?

http://www.safecycli...n-alive-at-1-5/

ok found it.

http://www.togoparts...ng-saves-lives/

Edited by kdash, 30 October 2017 - 11:59 PM.

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 09:06 AM

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In my humble opinion, for this to ever work, we need a few things first:

  1. Patience & tolerance - both cyclists and motorists have to be always conscious, tolerant and patient to other road users. Just because motorists pay road tax does not constitute to them having more privileges (NOT rights) to be on the road. No one is any more deserving that the other. Likewise, cyclists should not behave like they ought be respected and given a kilometer's allowance to ride as they please. You want respect? Give it first, and earn it back.
  2. Awareness - I personally found the 1.5M campaign to be moderately helpful, and perhaps more continual awareness drives, and education is required. Yes - one can complain that we have so much going on, so is spending more on campaigns going to even help at all? Well, better to have tried and failed, than not to have tried at all. In not even bothering to try, you have limited yourself to fail upfront immediately.

Just my humble tuppence.

 

hi bro, 

 

1. Agree, but the underlying motivation should always be safety of road users. If the cyclists are conscious of their own safety, they would be more careful on the road and not do like what the uncle did in the other thread (drafting behind the bus). If there is any accident, the cyclist will be most likely to suffer serious injury. The cyclists need to be aware that the main road users are still the motorists, and they cannot demand their right to use the road as they please. Of course, it does not help when the cyclists show attitude and argue/show certain hand gestures to motorists. 

 

As for the motorists, they need to be careful on the road and sometimes they do not notice the cyclists or notice them too late. No motorist would want to purposely cause an accident with the cyclist and have to pay the price for it. However, sometimes the attitudes of some cyclists do not help the cause, as you mentioned. 

 

When riding at night, some cyclists do not have adequate lights to warn motorists that they are cycling, and have little regard for their own safety. My friend almost collided with a cyclist who did a sudden u-turn, cutting in front of his car. 

 

2. I think the government can do more in terms of awareness, and since doing it, why not include PMDs as well. If there can be so many government-led campaigns for gracious attitude, courtesy, speaking good English, why not have one for the safety of road users. 


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Posted 31 October 2017 - 12:06 PM

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hi bro, 

 

1. Agree, but the underlying motivation should always be safety of road users. If the cyclists are conscious of their own safety, they would be more careful on the road and not do like what the uncle did in the other thread (drafting behind the bus). If there is any accident, the cyclist will be most likely to suffer serious injury. The cyclists need to be aware that the main road users are still the motorists, and they cannot demand their right to use the road as they please. Of course, it does not help when the cyclists show attitude and argue/show certain hand gestures to motorists. 

 

As for the motorists, they need to be careful on the road and sometimes they do not notice the cyclists or notice them too late. No motorist would want to purposely cause an accident with the cyclist and have to pay the price for it. However, sometimes the attitudes of some cyclists do not help the cause, as you mentioned. 

 

When riding at night, some cyclists do not have adequate lights to warn motorists that they are cycling, and have little regard for their own safety. My friend almost collided with a cyclist who did a sudden u-turn, cutting in front of his car. 

 

2. I think the government can do more in terms of awareness, and since doing it, why not include PMDs as well. If there can be so many government-led campaigns for gracious attitude, courtesy, speaking good English, why not have one for the safety of road users. 

 

Totally concur with your views above.
 



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Posted 01 November 2017 - 12:04 AM

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an accident which occurred along TMCR earlier today, seems unrelated to cycling track. 

 

6 foreign workers taken to hospital after chain collision involving 2 tipper trucks and lorry

 

http://www.straitsti...pper-trucks-and

 

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SINGAPORE - Six foreign workers were injured, one of them severely, in a chain collision involving a lorry and two tipper trucks in Changi on Tuesday (Oct 31) afternoon.

Photos of the accident circulated online show a man lying on the road behind a lorry, which is damaged in the back.

There are blood stains on the road, as well as some traffic cones and other debris.

Other photos show the damaged tipper trucks.

The Straits Times understands that the lorry had slowed to turn when it was hit from behind by the first tipper truck. The second tipper truck then crashed into the first one.

The police told ST that they were alerted to the accident involving the three vehicles along Tanah Merah Coast Road, towards Nicoll Drive, at 2.43pm on Tuesday.

 

The Singapore Civil Defence Force dispatched three ambulances and took six people to Changi General Hospital.

One had serious injuries to his neck and back.

This is the latest in a series of reports about foreign workers getting injured in traffic accidents.

On Monday morning, 26 foreign workers were taken to hospital after an accident between two lorries in Tuas.

On Saturday morning, at least five foreign workers were injured after a lorry they were in skidded and fell on its side along the Pan-Island Expressway.

Police investigations are ongoing.


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