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Posted 29 October 2017 - 03:32 PM

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Hi guys,

 

On Monday (tommorrow)  there will be a new ETF in SGX that focus just on Singapore Reits.  I think it consist of a basket of 23 Reits for diversification purposes.  And  because it is ETF, managing cost is low as compared to unit trust.

 

I think this is a good investment exposure to the Singapore  commercial and retail property scene for getting dividends.

 

Just for info, please do your own risk assessment.

 

 


Edited by Icedbs, 29 October 2017 - 03:33 PM.

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 03:46 PM

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synthetic or physical etf?

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 05:24 PM

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synthetic or physical etf?

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More info here : https://www.poems.co...onpcm-reit-etf/



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Posted 29 October 2017 - 06:01 PM

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synthetic or physical etf?

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You ask so much for what. ETFs are too basic and low value for you lah.
You need $5mil per pop private equity type
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Posted 29 October 2017 - 06:53 PM

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More info here : https://www.poems.co...onpcm-reit-etf/

wah start off as physical then can change into synthetic without telling investors

a bit scary like that

πŸ˜±πŸ˜…

You ask so much for what. ETFs are too basic and low value for you lah.
You need $5mil per pop private equity type

boss give chance let me cari makan can?

i got family to feed... all relying on me leh

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 07:00 PM

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wah start off as physical then can change into synthetic without telling investors

a bit scary like that

 

Is this in the fund info?



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Posted 29 October 2017 - 08:47 PM

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Is this in the fund info?

in the prospectus ...

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 08:51 PM

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in the prospectus ...

πŸ˜…

 

thanks. 
Ok spotted it. 

clause 4.2

 

 

Investment Strategy In managing the Fund, we currently adopt a direct Replication Strategy but may also adopt a Representative Sampling Strategy. We may swap between the two strategies, without prior notice to you, in our absolute discretion as often as we believe appropriate in order to achieve the investment objective of the Fund. As the Fund is an index-tracking fund which tracks the performance of the Index and holds the Index Securities, it is expected that the only asset class which the Fund will invest in is REITs.

 

4.3 Replication Strategy

Using a Replication Strategy, the Fund will invest in substantially all the Index Securities in substantially the same weightings (i.e. proportions) as the Index and the Application Basket may comprise odd lots of the Index Securities. For purposes of tracking the Index closely, we may, from time to time, adjust the number of odd lots of Index Securities in each Application Basket. However, if we believe that a Replication Strategy is not the most efficient means to track the Index, we may decide to adopt a Representative Sampling Strategy instead.

 

4.4 Representative Sampling Strategy

Using a Representative Sampling Strategy, the Fund will hold a representative sample of a portfolio of Securities selected by us using quantitative analytical models in a technique known as β€œportfolio sampling”. Where a Representative Sampling Strategy is employed, Securities that are not constituents of the Index may be held by the Fund. Such Securities will be expected to have a high level of correlation or a similar valuation or market capitalisation as the relevant Index Securities. We will seek to construct the portfolio of the Fund so that, in the aggregate, its capitalisation, industry and fundamental investment characteristics perform like those of the Index. The Index will be reviewed and rebalanced semi-annually after the close of business on the Rebalancing Reference Dates. The low frequency of rebalancing should result in a lesser turnover of Index Securities and hence lower overall Fund expenses. There will be no change to the investment objective and/or investment policy of the Fund during the 3-year period commencing from the date of this Prospectus, unless (i) any such change is approved by an Extraordinary Resolution of Unitholders in a general meeting or (ii) such prohibition on changes to the investment objective and/or investment policy of the Fund is waived by the SGX-ST. Where there is any change to the investment strategy adopted for the Fund, such changes will be announced by us through SGXNET. A list of the holdings of the Fund will be published in the monthly fund factsheet which is available on our website at www.lionglobalinvestors.com

 


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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:14 PM

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in the prospectus ...

πŸ˜…


Can buy or cannot buy huh...doggie also depending on u le [:p]
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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:40 PM

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Can buy or cannot buy huh...doggie also depending on u le [:p]

lai lai chief... i help you page yandao towkay Sunny again

he got magic touch... buy simi, up simi

very huat.. really no joke his last few trades

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:49 PM

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Can buy or cannot buy huh...doggie also depending on u le [:p]

 

haha....I only hope to recover all my parking fees (through dividends)  which I paid to all these commercial and retail malls. And those parking rates are getting more and more expensive! :blink:


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 12:17 AM

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I actually subscribed to this via my broker already.

 

It stinks because you get hit by Corp tax but I am sick of monitoring my holdings for rights, warrants and all the empire building minority stakeholder screwing stunts that I am willing to take the hit.

 

Just a side bet on S-Reits in general.



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Posted 30 October 2017 - 08:19 AM

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wah start off as physical then can change into synthetic without telling investors

a bit scary like that
 

 

Write in prospectus not considered telling investors meh?

 

Investors don't read ah?  [sweatdrop]


That is all.

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 09:01 AM

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Write in prospectus not considered telling investors meh?

 

Investors don't read ah?  [sweatdrop]

 

my point was whether to be a physical or synthetic etf is up to the fund managers

 

and they do not have to tell investors how they want to invest at any point in time

 

essentially saying put money with them but they can invest in anything they like 

 

not scary?

 

[sweatdrop]



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my point was whether to be a physical or synthetic etf is up to the fund managers

 

and they do not have to tell investors how they want to invest at any point in time

 

essentially saying put money with them but they can invest in anything they like 

 

not scary?

 

[sweatdrop]

 

inside the fund information factsheet, they put as physical.

 

Then inside the prospectus they put that it will change (up to them)


Write in prospectus not considered telling investors meh?

 

Investors don't read ah?  [sweatdrop]

 

refer to above. One liners can be deceptive.

Think not many people understand how can a ETF be synthetic.

 

 


Edited by Lala81, 30 October 2017 - 09:06 AM.


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 09:07 AM

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inside the fund information factsheet, they put as physical.

 

Then inside the prospectus they put that it will change (up to them)


 

refer to above. One liners can be deceptive.

 

yes... they can change to anything as long as they still give you the promised index returns

 

machiam like cpf....

 

:ph34r:  :D



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Posted 30 October 2017 - 10:25 AM

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yes... they can change to anything as long as they still give you the promised index returns

 

machiam like cpf....

 

:ph34r:  :D

 

got guaranteed returns one meh?



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Posted 30 October 2017 - 10:37 AM

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got guaranteed returns one meh?

 

yes ...returns are guaranteed

 

question is whether positive or negative returns

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 08:50 AM

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lai lai chief... i help you page yandao towkay Sunny again

he got magic touch... buy simi, up simi

very huat.. really no joke his last few trades

πŸ˜¬πŸ‘πŸ˜‚

 

 

mai anyhow say hor

 

i peasant, only go for kopitiam ETF

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eat Till Full


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Posted 01 November 2017 - 10:33 AM

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mai anyhow say hor

 

i peasant, only go for kopitiam ETF

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eat Till Full

 

Jin atas!!!

 

http://www.swissotel...ning/kopi-tiam/

 

[laugh]


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