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Posted 09 November 2017 - 04:05 PM

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what is wrong with these young people nowadays, the ah mah already 80 years old cannot wait meh?   [shakehead]  [shakehead]

80-year-old widow sues grandson over $4 million Farrer Road house
PUBLISHED NOV 8, 2017, 10:38 PM SGT
Selina Lum Law Correspondent 
 
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A four-day hearing into the suit filed by Madam Lim Hoon Neo (left) against her 39-year-old grandson Ang Wee Chai, began in the High Court on Wednesday (Nov 8).ST PHOTOS: WONG KWAI CHOW
 
SINGAPORE - An 80-year-old widow has sued her eldest grandson over the $4 million Farrer Road family home which is registered in the sole name of her husband.
 
A four-day hearing into the suit filed by Madam Lim Hoon Neo against her 39-year-old grandson Ang Wee Chai, began in the High Court on Wednesday (Nov 8).
 
Madam Lim is claiming a 60 per cent stake in the two-storey terraced house, which her husband had willed only to their youngest son and their eldest grandson.
 
Mr Ang Ho Sai, who died at the age of 83 in 2014, did not mention her in his will. He also appointed the grandson as the sole executor of his estate.
 
The late Mr Ang and Madam Lim married when he was 18 and she was in 14, and had five children together, but one died in 1982.
 
In the 1950s, Madam Lim started working as an amah at the Alexandra Hospital with a monthly salary of $96 but stopped working after she had her third child.
 
The $4 million house at 102 Farrer Road which was in the sole name of Madam Lim Hoon Neo's husband. ST PHOTO: MOHD KHALID BABA
 
Her husband initially worked as peon in the British army but later ran a car rental business and a watch business.
 
While he paid for household expenses, Madam Lim said she supplemented the household income by renting rooms in their old zinc-roofed house, selling homemade rice wine and making friendly loans to neighbours.
 
In 1967, Madam Lim said they agreed to buy the Farrer Road house for $36,500.
 
Madam Lim claimed she contributed cash of $22,000, or 60.3 per cent, to the purchase price.
 
Her lawyer, Mr Tan Siah Yong, said in his opening statement that at the time, the house was put in her husband's sole name as he was the head of the family and was the one handling the transaction.
 
The family lived in their house until the children were married and moved out, except for youngest son Poh Seng.
 
In the suit, Madam Lim contends that even though her husband is the sole registered owner, she owns 60.3 per cent of the house based on her contribution.
 
She is asking the court to declare that she has the right to live in the house until it is sold, which she should get a 60.3 per cent of the proceeds.
 
Her grandson, who is represented by Mr Darrell Low and Mr Samuel Wee, said he has been taking steps to fulfil his grandfather's last wishes.
 
But Madam Lim and two of his uncles, have been thwarting his efforts to do so by, among other things, refusing to cooperate with his attempts to sell the property in accordance with the will.
 
As a result, last year, he filed an application in the Family and Justice Court, asking for an order to let him administer the estate by ordering the sale of the property and for his grandmother to vacate the house.
 
He contends that his grandmother filed the High Court suit to block his attempt to do so.
 
The trial continues.

 

 

 


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为排屋告长孙续审 八旬嬷:老公死后49天 长孙赶我走
2017年11月9日 星期四 03:25 PM
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80岁阿嬷为排屋告长孙告案续审,长孙庭上爆出,阿嬷与阿公感情20多年前就不好,两人分房睡。
 
《新明日报》昨天(11月8日)报道,起诉人林云娘(80岁)为花拉路(Farrer Road)一带市价约400万元的排屋,将长孙洪伟财(39岁,银行业)告上法庭。阿嬷称,排屋虽然在丈夫名下,丈夫遗嘱里也将排屋分给小儿子洪宝成(54岁)和长孙,不过她有份出钱购买排屋,要求法官判她拥有排屋60.3%权益。
 
案件今早续审,辩方律师念出长孙的宣誓书,内容提到阿嬤与阿公感情早在20多年前就不好,两人分房睡,就连个人物品也要分开放。阿嬤的孙女也在另一份宣誓书里,提到阿嬤与阿公感情不好,很少看见两人同在一个房间里,甚至闲聊过。对此,阿嬤发出一声冷笑,称完全没有这回事。
 
她以潮州话说:“哪有理由?如果事实真是如此,为何我不提出离婚?”
 
阿嬤庭上则透露,她与丈夫其实早就对遗产事宜进行分配。两老决定将柔佛公寓留给大儿子,花拉路排屋留给小儿子,而店屋则留给其余的孩子。她说着说着,语带感伤,称到现在还感到心痛,不知要与亲人走到这样的地步,还说自己其实爱孩子和孙子。
 
双方律师今早针对是否要删掉阿嬤二儿子宣誓书内容进行争辩,或许是坐得太久,阿嬤在证人栏睡着,法庭于是休庭,让阿嬤能梳洗,恢复精神。(人名译音)
 
家办丧事 长孙带人搜东西
 
阿嬷表示,丈夫过世,家里还在办丧事,长孙带家人到房里搜东西,才获悉丈夫立遗嘱,将排屋平均分给小儿子和长孙。阿嬤说,对房子的分配没有感到不高兴,但不满长孙有意封屋、霸占并要求她搬离排屋。庭上揭露,阿嬤也为一间店屋而与大儿子洪宝宝打官司,不过案件已取得和解。
 
完整报道,请翻阅2017年11月09日的《新明日报》。

 

 

 


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 04:05 PM

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what is wrong with these young people nowadays, the ah mah already 80 years old cannot wait meh?   [shakehead]  [shakehead]

 

 

 

You read the case or not? The ah gong gave the house to the young man and also asked for it to be sold "in accordance with the will".

 

You should be asking why the ah ma and ah gong cannot get along.

 

BTW, 39 year old chap can't exactly be considered a young man la.


Edited by Kusje, 09 November 2017 - 04:06 PM.

That is all.

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 04:09 PM

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You read the case or not? The ah gong gave the house to the young man and also asked for it to be sold "in accordance with the will".

 

You should be asking why the ah ma and ah gong cannot get along.

 

BTW, 39 year old chap can't exactly be considered a young man la.

 

 

is that how young people see thing nowadays, what even happen to ah gong ah mah is their problem as long as they are not divorced. Many old couple dun really talk but doesn't mean the kids should side one and not the other.


Edited by Jman888, 09 November 2017 - 04:10 PM.

骑白马的不一定是王子,可能是唐僧;带翅膀的也不一定是天使,有时候是鸟人。

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 05:37 PM

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he worry ah ma will live pass 100 lor.  [:p]  [laugh]  [laugh]


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 05:50 PM

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家家有本难念的经!

 

Family feud is common, and it's more jialat when there's (a lot of) $$ involved, like in this case. 

 

Something must have happened that resulted in the deceased man - who had 5 children and dunno how many grandchildren - to only have 2 beneficiaries for his estate.

 

And if the old woman had really contributed to the family (and the house), then sure won't take it lying down to be left with nothing. Just unfortunate that the house doesn't have her name so now have to fight in court...

 

Difficult for outsiders to tell who is right or wrong, without knowing the full facts lah...


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 06:18 PM

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we can only speculate from the outside... seems like there is some tenuous relationship between grandmother and grandson even before the grandfather passed away... 

 

grandson says he is only fulfilling his grandfather's last wishes, while grandmother lamenting that he is not filial... 

 

whenever money is involved, people forget about relations... sometimes i am glad that my grandfather was not rich and had a large inheritance... 

 

this case sounds very familiar hor? want to demolish sell the house but got disputed by relatives... 


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 06:39 PM

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 06:53 PM

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家家有本难念的经!

 

Family feud is common, and it's more jialat when there's (a lot of) $$ involved, like in this case. 

 

Something must have happened that resulted in the deceased man - who had 5 children and dunno how many grandchildren - to only have 2 beneficiaries for his estate.

 

And if the old woman had really contributed to the family (and the house), then sure won't take it lying down to be left with nothing. Just unfortunate that the house doesn't have her name so now have to fight in court...

 

Difficult for outsiders to tell who is right or wrong, without knowing the full facts lah...

 

i dunno if this is the matrimonial house or what. But if so, the husband was a real right b**tard.

Even if u don't get along with your wife in the end, she still bore you 4-5 kids.

Mind you this was in the time before epidurals was invented. So it's many hours of bloody intense pain to bear you kids leh.

 

Even u want to pass the property to the next generation, then at least have some clause that allow the wife to stay until she chooses to move out right.


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 06:54 PM

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The grandson is the executor of the will. A responsibility entrusted by the deceased to carry out to the full. If for compassion sake for his grandma and he doesn't carry out the will, then he has done a great wrong to the deceased. Should reject the executor role.

If I assigned someone I trusted as executor, this is what I expect, regardless. Not by his own suka suka can don't want to execute becoz he doesn't want to be the bad guy of the family.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:00 PM

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The grandson is the executor of the will. A responsibility entrusted by the deceased to carry out to the full. If for compassion sake for his grandma and he doesn't carry out the will, then he has done a great wrong to the deceased. Should reject the executor role.

If I assigned someone I trusted as executor, this is what I expect, regardless. Not by his own suka suka can don't want to execute becoz he doesn't want to be the bad guy of the family.

 

Actually this problem is easy to solve.

 

Grandson execute the will, and after selling, choose to pass 60% of the sales proceed to the grandmom out of respect or whatever.

 

Both should be happy. One executed the will, the other got her share of the proceeds.

 

Obviously there must be more than meets the eye for failing to think of the above solution.



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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:08 PM

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Actually this problem is easy to solve.

Grandson execute the will, and after selling, choose to pass 60% of the sales proceed to the grandmom out of respect or whatever.

Both should be happy. One executed the will, the other got her share of the proceeds.

Obviously there must be more than meets the eye for failing to think of the above solution.

This is called respecting the dead's wishes?

Might as well sell the house for a dollar to the grandma.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:12 PM

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:45 PM

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Not the first case certainly and definitely won't be the last.

Sad for the dead to be "troubling" the lives of the living.

Anyways, lawyers must be looking to a fat and lovely Christmas this year. Better make sure you have written a will, especially those loaded until choked...😁

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 10:26 PM

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Not the first case certainly and definitely won't be the last.

Sad for the dead to be "troubling" the lives of the living.

Anyways, lawyers must be looking to a fat and lovely Christmas this year. Better make sure you have written a will, especially those loaded until choked...😁

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Here, the deceased had made the will. The problem is the execution of the will is being obstructed. Not too different from the LKY saga. 

 

If there's a lesson to be learn here, is having a will doesn't guarantee your will be done. And select your executor carefully, not one who is soft hearted, but someone who is hardened and sure to follow thru the will to the dot without compassion or feelings to others. 


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:56 PM

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This is called respecting the dead's wishes?

Might as well sell the house for a dollar to the grandma.

 

Umm..you got a point, if you are looking from the "wish" perspective.

 

I am looking more from another angle on ways to avoid the feud.

 

Indeed it is complicated. 



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Posted 10 November 2017 - 12:08 AM

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Hrmm time to see whats for sale along Farrer lol


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Posted 10 November 2017 - 07:51 AM

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It’s not the old woman lah, it’s who’s behind the old woman who’s stirring this sh it
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It is indeed very difficult to understand other people. family problems and we don't have the details. 

 

based on what i read, i cannot understand why there is a need to dispose the property so urgently. that old lady has how many more years to live? unless someone needs money urgently, there are some legal loopholes they don't wish to prolong, or reasons not known to us, i would say just leave it status quo. 


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