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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:16 AM

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The company cannot tahan people comment/review and took away the review feature on their FB   [laugh]  [laugh]   
 
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Orchard Gateway dessert shop threatens to sue customer over 2-star review on Facebook
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STOMP  Jan 30, 2018
 
 
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Thanks to the Internet and social media, many companies have opened themselves up to customers to review their products and services.
 
However, what does one do if they get a negative review?
 
One dessert shop called Fantasy Desserts at Orchard Gateway demonstrated what you should not do when they threatened to sue a customer over a 2-star review.
 
Facebook user Celena Ho posted a review of her experience at the ice cream stall:
 
The founder and director of the shop, Sara Lim then took it upon herself to respond personally to the review using her own personal account.
 
She thanked Ho sarcastically for her "fake feedback":
 
An hour later, Ho posted an update on her page claiming that the company had deleted her review.
 
However, Fantasy Desserts disputed this and said that "reviews cannot be deleted".
 
They also threatened to sue Ho for "ruining" the company's reputation:
 
Ho's post on her own Facebook page with screenshots of her review and correspondence with Fantasy Desserts has since gone viral with over 844 shares.
 
Several netizens have called to boycott the dessert shop after seeing how they handled the situation.
 
The shop then tried to explain why they thought Ho's review was "fake".
 
They pointed out how she had paid $12 when the shop does not sell anything at that price in a half-hearted apology:
 
Ho then clarified and apologised for making the mistake and said that she did pay $10.90 for her dessert after all.
 
However, Fantasy Desserts then said they would look into the matter properly and asked for the date and time she visited the stall so that they could check their CCTV.
 
Their attempt to apologise again was met with more criticism as they reminded Ho on her mistake on the price and blamed the matter on "one huge misunderstanding".
 
Despite all this, it appears that the shop's director, Lim has not backed down and has posted several videos and photos of her desserts in the comment section of Ho's post.
 
She also wrote a very long reply about how she feels the customer is not always right:

 

 

 


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:19 AM

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Like this also can meh? Shop can sue customer over bad/poor review on their product?


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:22 AM

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They should just use the money to hire a hundred positive reviewers. [laugh]
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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:23 AM

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This came up on my screen.

 

Store is a joke. Buy so much fake publicity with bloggers then claim a negative review is fake.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:29 AM

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Imo NPNT.

 

Want to say something is bad, post a pic that can speak louder dan words. Otherwise it's very subjective and could be fake.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:29 AM

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The company cannot tahan people comment/review and took away the review feature on their FB [laugh] [laugh]

Retailer can fight back but they are not always the winner.

https://www.facebook...asydesserts.co/


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:30 AM

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This one is a fking joke. The owner herself is a blogger and yet she doesn't understand the value of a true review? For the uninitiated, Sara Shantelle Lim once famously threw a sponsored $40,000 birthday bash.

 

http://www.tnp.sg/ne...0-birthday-bash


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:32 AM

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This one is a fking joke. The owner herself is a blogger and yet she doesn't understand the value of a true review? For the uninitiated, Sara Shantelle Lim once famously threw a sponsored $40,000 birthday bash.

 

http://www.tnp.sg/ne...0-birthday-bash

 

Nothing wrong with spending people's money if they are stupid enough to give it to you la.

 

And what do you mean true review from a blogger? more than 90% of all those are fake and paid for. 2 months after the article, you think the blogger is still using the product? :D


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:35 AM

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The company cannot tahan people comment/review and took away the review feature on their FB   [laugh]  [laugh]   
 
Retailer can fight back but they are not always the winner.
 

 

 

quite stupid on the company side i think, or inexperience.

 

there is alway bad customer,

the last thing u want is quarrel or fight with them.

 

just let them go or even lose abit nvm,

dun do their business again,

 

once u make thing big, even if u are right, in the end it also give your company a negative image,


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:37 AM

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Nothing wrong with spending people's money if they are stupid enough to give it to you la.

 

And what do you mean true review from a blogger? more than 90% of all those are fake and paid for. 2 months after the article, you think the blogger is still using the product? :D

 

the sentence in bold is my mantra hahaha. but i do know that the exchange wasn't done fairly..

 

most of my girls use their sponsored/paid products for months & years after the review is done, even paying out of their own pocket for it. just cannot accept that the dessert shop wanna sue the customer based on her review.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:41 AM

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yalor ... sibei stoopid [hur]

just 1 click can have 10,000 positive reviews and ratings

china click farm -- cheap cheap

 

 

They should just use the money to hire a hundred positive reviewers. [laugh]

 


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:01 AM

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This one is a fking joke. The owner herself is a blogger and yet she doesn't understand the value of a true review? For the uninitiated, Sara Shantelle Lim once famously threw a sponsored $40,000 birthday bash.

 

http://www.tnp.sg/ne...0-birthday-bash

 

 

orh.... so this is a fight between bloggers jealous with each other huh, nothing to do with the product?

 

maybe both put up a show to create awareness   [rolleyes]  [rolleyes]


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:17 AM

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Self-pawn dessert stall

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  Fantasy Desserts orchardgateway added 2 new photos.

8 hrs · 

Dear friends of Fantasy Desserts,

The past 2 days, a dramatic event unfolded between Fantasy Desserts and a "customer" - Celena Ho.

P.s: Till date, we don't know if Celena is a real customer or not, as she could not produced any receipt, time, date, photo of her visit to our shop. Despite us asking her multiple times.

She claims, that Fantasy Desserts threatened to sue her over a bad review, and it has gone viral on the internet which is not true.

We would like to shade some light and truth to what truly happened.

To have a full accurate story -

1. Celena posted a malicious and spiteful review on Fantasy Desserts, claiming that she had bought an egglet from us, stating that we use "cheap sugary candies" (our toppings are high quality candies from Candylicious Singapore), claiming that she can spend $12 better off else where.

2. We do not sell anything at $12, hence, Sara thought that she has given a fake review.

3. Sara replied using her personal name thanking her for her "fake review" on the company FB page, as we do not sell any items at that price.

- The reason as to why Sara thought that it was fake, was because we do not sell anything at $12 at the shop. It was an inaccurate misrepresentation of our company. And her first natural reaction was to protect the company.

4. Celena got excited, became even more malicious, screenshot what Sara replied her, and posted this on her personal FB profile.

- Asking people to BOYCOTT our company due to the reason that Sara called her review a "fake".

- Then accused the company for paying bloggers for fake paid reviews.

- Accused us for deleting her 2 star review - Biz pages cannot delete any reviews, both good and bad, facebook does not allow that. There are other 2 stars review on our page.

- Accused us for treating our customers like dirt.

5. We wrote back by the company account stating that "we have the RIGHTS to sue her for false misrepresentation of the company and for trying to ruin the company reputation on purpose".

P.s: Not because of a bad review, we welcome all reviews, and we strive to continue to improve in our service standards.

6. Celena then updated her post stating that we "threatened her", which we did not. We merely stated that we have the rights to sue her for misrepresentation of our company.

P.S: Stating that we have the rights to sue her, and "going" to sue her has 2 totally different meanings.

- Celena got more excited, then she twisted our words, and updated her personal FB post again, stating "we threatened her due to a bad review", completely ignoring the fact that she lied about her review in the first place, hence resulting us in thinking that she was a fake reviewer.

7. Ever since she has posted these allegations on her personal FB profile page, we received multiple fake 1 star reviews from random strangers who did not visit our store, hence, we paused our review option on FB.

P.S: But nothing was deleted, we still can't do that.

8. The company apologized to her publicly for being "harsh" for calling her review a "fake" on her page, offered her a full refund, or another egglet.

- Despite the fact that she has no proof till now, that she has really visited the store or not.

- No receipt was shown, no time and date for us to check our CCTV.

- Picture shown/presented by her was already half eaten, without her face, or any proof that, that image was even real.

- We still don't know if she's a real customer or just a trouble maker.

9. Sara had made the effort to PM Celena Ho, privately to apologize and to clarify and rectify the situation, since Sunday 6.20pm, as seen below in the picture as soon as soon as she realized that she was harsh by calling her out as a "fake" review, in a peaceful and amicable manner.

******But Celena Ho chose to be malicious, updated her personal FB profile post to accuse us for "treating her like dirt", just because she's not a blogger, etc.

10. In summary, we have admitted mistakes made on our part, by calling her false $12 review a "fake", and we had been trying to be civil and rectify the situation with her for more than 48h.

- Kindly seeking her understanding and to request to have her remove the post on her FB.

- But Celena Ho chose to continue to be spiteful, she continued to deliberately ruin the image of the company.

We would like to clarify to the public that:

If Celena Ho really had the good intention to help businesses to improve, from reviews or feedback, like what she said she was trying to do.

- Firstly, she would not be using words like "cheap sugary candies", "better off spending your $12 on a good quality gelato elsewhere", such statement is already malicious and spiteful in the first place.

- Secondly, company has tried to settle peacefully with apologies but she ignored and continue her attempt to ruin the company’s reputation to her own benefit.

- It is clear and obvious that she is not a genuine customer who wants to give constructive feedback but rather someone who is going all out to harm the company’s reputation.

- On top of it, she conveniently lied about spending $12 at our shop, we do not sell anything at $12, hence that resulted us to believe that her review was fake.

******We have no issues receiving bad 1-2 stars reviews from our customers, if their statement was true and accurate.

That's the only way whereby we can keep track of our staff, their customer service and quality of our food.

But like every other businesses, we DO NOT appreciate FAKE reviews with FALSE statements or responses that are malicious and disparaging, baseless and untrue, unjustifiable and outside the realm of fair comment.

TO HIGHLIGHT:

Our company did not "threaten to sue Celena Ho for a bad review".

We stated that "we have the rights to sue her for false misrepresentation of our company" as she had made some false accusations of the company on her personal FB profile page.

Celena Ho claimed that we are threatening to sue her due to a "bad review". That is highly inaccurate.

It is due to the fact that, she had conceived/propagated the following disparaging image/impression of our company on her PERSONAL FB PAGE (NOT because of her INITIAL review on our business page):

a. That we utilises substandard ingredients/products; 
b. That we do not treat their customers well and/or fairly; 
c. That we pay bloggers to publish/circulate positive reviews/feedback; and 
d. That we actively remove negative reviews/feedback from patrons/customers.

due to these DEFAMATORY CONTENT and Misrepresentation of our Company:

a. “cheap sugary candies”; 
b. “treating your customers like dirt”; 
c. “… I believe my tastebuds and judgment should not be ridiculed in such a manner!!!”; 
d. “I guess that’s how they maintain “positive” reviews on their page”; and e. “pays bloggers for positive reviews”.

Just like any other company, we don't have a perfect record, we have other fair 2-3 star reviews with non malicious intent, productive feedback too, to highlight to us on what we may improve on, and we are completely ok with that. We have many 5 stars reviews by real customers not “fake” customers and they are not paid to write them. We also have 2 stars reviews which we did not delete and are unable to delete them. We accept all reviews and aim to improve ourselves as we are a new business and many new staff are undergoing training as it is a learning process.

We are open to true and unbiased, non malicious, ill-intended reviews. We would accept it and try to constantly improve.

To read the TRUTH and UNBIASED side of the WHOLE STORY, you may refer to STOMP Straits Times coverage - http://stomp.straitstimes.com/…/dessert-shop-threatens-to-s…

Her VIRAL FB post was shared with 800+ people around Singapore, with her very one sided story, with FALSE accusations that we are "threatening to sue her due to a bad review" - was HIGHLY INACCURATE, causing netizens who did not know the whole truth to be upset with our company. Celena Ho's malicious and spiteful post made our company look bad to the eye of the public.

But as soon as STOMP reviewed the entire truth of what truly happened between us.

- That she might just a "trouble maker", Celena Ho finally DELETED her viral facebook post with false claims. And as of now, she has also took the liberty of DELETING/SUSPENDING HER ENTIRE FB ACCOUNT.

We would like to let the public know that, we will strive to improve on our customer service. But we still do not appreciate false reviews, with malicious intent to hurt the reputation of our company.

For those who have tried and love our desserts, we want to take this opportunity, to thank you, for supporting us despite this whole unnecessary episode.

Thank you.

 


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:19 AM

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could be a guerrila marketing ploy to attract more ppl there lor.....

 

you neva know


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:23 AM

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could be a guerrila marketing ploy to attract more ppl there lor.....

 

you neva know

 

More like gorilla marketing though... breaking everything in its way...

 

Not to mention the English... We would like to "shade" some light and truth...  [smash]


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:27 AM

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More like gorilla marketing though... breaking everything in its way...

Not to mention the English... We would like to "shade" some light and truth... [smash]

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:28 AM

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the england. oh the england.

 

kdash you need to read this. but its missing your favourite word though.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:29 AM

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More like gorilla marketing though... breaking everything in its way...

 

Not to mention the English... We would like to "shade" some light and truth...  [smash]

 

muahahhaaha....eh maybe they meant it...SHADE the light kekekeke


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:31 AM

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any publicity is good publicity for them, be it good or bad. 


the england. oh the england.

 

kdash you need to read this. but its missing your favourite word though.

 

WOT, tl;dr

 

got exekutif samerli bo?  [laugh]


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:31 AM

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sara or celena....i support the chioer one

 

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