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Recommendations to change engine for EG6.

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Turbonetics

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oh i see....so urs is the same as EK batch....nice....

we dun have a coupe civic here....frown.gif

i like coupe civic especially the EM1 and EM2.....cool...cool.gif

btw EM 1 is sohc vtec right....

EM 2 is dohc vtec....or vice versa???

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BlueSi

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Not too sure about the model number, but the Civic Si is a B16A2 probably pretty similar to the SiR? its a 1.6L DOHC vtec motor stock.

 

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Elfenstar

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B20 bottom end and B16? It'll give you loads of torque, but the B20 wont wanna rev as much as the B16 head. The B16 head wants to rev, should be match with a bottom end that's equally capable of reving. I'm sure it's been done b4, but how good is the match, I dont know yet.

 

On the dot! I do know of someone using that combo, but he put in a small TC (T25g from the SR20DET) and runs 4psi. Massively responsive and v.quick. He had to put in a mech diff as well as the torque steer was pretty bad. Didn't rev as high, but didn't need to coz of the TC.

 

Edit: I forgot to mention, the lower end was worked with forged pistons, conrods etc and he had to sleeve the cylinder as the B20 block is weaker than its b16 and b18 counterparts.

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Elfenstar

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Or a B16A Head with a B18C block... [sly]

 

Tat's the good thing abt Honda. Lots of performance parts & engine available, even got the choice of which engine u wanna dip in [thumbsup]

 

That i cannot disagree with [laugh] I think the B16 followed by B18 are the 2 engines with the most aftermarket options in the world!

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Elfenstar

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guess what... i actually know someone else in sg running that setup (b16-b20) with stock internals!!! He had the same solution to the rev issues... chuck on a TC.

 

approx 220bhp untuned (waiting for the hondata ecu). his main prob thus far is fueling and imho too big a turbo (spools at 3000+ rpm, almost 4000). I'm gonna keep tabs on the car as i'm curious how the stock internals will hold up.

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BlueSi

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stock internals huh! hmmm .... yeah, how long will it holdup. With really careful tuning on a dyno, might just be able to make the stock internals last, but without proper tuning, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

 

As for putting Honda motors into non-Honda cars or vice versa, you'll need to make custom motor mounts. The tranny probably won't line up so either custom tranny or use engine's tranny. Then the axal and 1/2 shafts won't line, customs again. Then you have to deal with the motor wirings, another pain. All in all, I think not very worth it. There's this company Hasport, that makes special motor mounts to drop diff motors into diff bodies.

http://www.hasport.com/

 

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Elfenstar

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We shall see how it goes. I've convinced him to get 550cc injectors mated with the bosch 040 for fueling. tune will happen but considering the boost he is planning to run, i'm still highly skeptical about how long the lower end components will last, but i like "experiments" so i'm just gonna sit tight and see how it goes.

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Jeffteng

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Hi folks,

 

An EG6 has a serious problem with the broken cam shafts, which leads to some other problems. It was initially quoted a whopping 2k+ to 3k to fix it up.

 

Anyone has any recommendations where to get a re-conditioned EG6 DOHC engine?

 

(I think the quote is a little ridiculous, and changing the engine is a much better choice as majority of the engine swop I have seen comes at a price tag much lower than that.)

 

Thanks,

 

Ed

 

EG6 engine which is the B16A block can be easily obtain now since so many of them are going for scrape. price should not exceed 2k IMO.

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Jeffteng

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I'm overseas. And yeah, I drive a 00 Civic Si [nod]

 

B20 bottom end and B16? It'll give you loads of torque, but the B20 wont wanna rev as much as the B16 head. The B16 head wants to rev, should be match with a bottom end that's equally capable of reving. I'm sure it's been done b4, but how good is the match, I dont know yet.

 

The B16 and B18 is the simplest swap since both parts match up perfectly. Its as easy as it gets when it comes to motor swap, not counting swaping in the exact same motor.

 

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heh heh i also used to own the SI, really a very fun car to play with and my temp is forever swee swee one~~ but when problems starts coming, the rest of the car seems to start falling apart~

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