Tas0577 1st Gear September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 After checking the specs for A15, I notice that the weight of the car is around 1200KG and BHP for the car is only 110bhp. Guess it is kind of underpowered for A15, A18 will be a better choice. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junjie 1st Gear September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 It seem underpower on paper but seem like Allion can achieve far better FC than 08 Altis....now whether should I go for Allion or Altis...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tas0577 1st Gear September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 (edited) Guess whether good FC or not, it all depend on the driver's right foot and driving pattern whether it is more on highway or city driving. You should not have good FC if you are more on city driving though you have a super Fuel Saving car. Probably that is why Allion is good at FC as lesser horsepower will have good FC in return. Frankly, Allion is too much overpriced and you are still getting drum brake for the rear no doubt that Allion is nicer looking compared to Altis so it is a tough decision. Edited September 9, 2008 by Tas0577 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticklish8 3rd Gear September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 I still prefer my wife.... (Allion) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticklish8 3rd Gear September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 Overpriced compare with ? Altis, Nissan Sunny, Mitsubishi Lancer, Mazda 3, Nissan Latio? IMHO... all car in Singapore is OVERPRICED..... at the end of day u lose 50 percent of your car price when u get the key.... Car is a huge liability...... How you look at it, how u analyze it, you still lost big. What you can control is how much losses you can stomach....but car is emotional things lah...... it depends on your need, your want, affordability. If I bought Altis... I die die will say Altis is good...If i buy Mazda3 i will say the same things. fyi i drove Mazda3 before. Pple say drinker, i said i top up in JB, so no problem. So the most important things.... enjoy your ride lah..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tas0577 1st Gear September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 No, I was not comparing with other makes but same Toyota ranges like Axio as both cars are using same engines and their price are difference by so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticklish8 3rd Gear September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 http://app.lta.gov.sg/motoring_vo_omv.asp Average OMV Toyota Allion OMV $14,875 Toyota Axio 1.5X OMV $12,386 Toyota Axio 1.5X Manual OMV $11,788 Toyota Altis $16,784 Allion price is higher than Axio is because of different in OMV plus other stuff like its accessories...... Yes Allion OMV is lower than Altis. BUT BUT Altis is Tomyam, Allion MIJ..... like I said it is a matter of preference.... at the end of the day...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyer Neutral Newbie September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 One thing is definitely true. Enjoy your drive when you get it. Don't need to think so much. There are pros and cons about each car for sure. For my case, I went for Altis coz of the good service by the person attending to me and also the higher OMV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniperben Neutral Newbie September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 don't need to think so much. come to me for the allion! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticklish8 3rd Gear September 9, 2008 Share September 9, 2008 hahahaha i agree. Use to drive Mazda3. Love the car.... but at the end of the day that love will last maybe 3-4 years because after that change to another car..... then fall in love again. Car is different with wife..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walterkoh Neutral Newbie September 10, 2008 Share September 10, 2008 hi, altis from borneo motors now at a promo price of $57,988, very good buy. at the end of the day, tomyam or sushi, no diff, its still a toyota. toyota being number 1 in the world, will not b so stupid to spoil their reputation to produce a lower grade car from thailand, especially for singapore market whereby singaporeans are the most picky owners in the world and we have the most ex cars in the world too. i guess allion now is more ex than altis, given the altis 1.6A $57,988 (OMV$16,700) vs allion 1.5 CVT $~63,000 (OMV $14,800) so which is a better buy? smart clever singaporeans will know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric76 1st Gear September 10, 2008 Share September 10, 2008 Altis 58K is really attractive, i think allion should drop to 60k at least to close the gap....good move, BM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic September 10, 2008 Share September 10, 2008 It seem underpower on paper but seem like Allion can achieve far better FC than 08 Altis....now whether should I go for Allion or Altis...... Below information taken from sgcarmart. Base on these spec, Allion actually has a better power to weight ratio compare to Altis. Allion is using a more modern Super-CVTi gear box, while Altis still using an old 4spd auto. So I don't think Allion will be underpower when compare to Altis. The 08 Altis had a weight increase of almost 100kg comapre to the G9 version. Altis: Engine Engine capacity 1,598 cc Engine type 4 cylinder, In-line, 16-valve DOHC VVT-i Compression ratio unknown Bore x Stroke unknown Power 107 bhp Torque 145 Nm Measurements Dimensions (L x W x H) (4540 x 1760 x 1465)mm Wheelbase 2,600mm Min turning radius 5,300mm Kerb weight 1,255kg Fuel tank capacity 55L Allion: Engine Engine capacity 1,496 cc Engine type 4 cylinder DOHC 1.5L 1NZ-FE VVT-i Compression ratio 10.5 Bore x Stroke (75.0 x 84.7 ) mm Power 110 bhp Torque 144 Nm Measurements Dimensions (L x W x H) (4565 x 1695 x 1475)mm Wheelbase 2,700mm Min turning radius 5,300mm Kerb weight 1,220kg Fuel tank capacity 60L Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ldawn88 2nd Gear September 10, 2008 Share September 10, 2008 Cannot compare like that. You need to drive both Allion and Altis to comment. In terms of driving dynamics.. like 1 class apart. also, in terms of comform, 1 is 2700mm wheelbase, the other is only 2600mm. not talking about legroom bigger and comfort only... the handling are too far apart. Quality wise, well, you got to see the differences. hi,altis from borneo motors now at a promo price of $57,988, very good buy. at the end of the day, tomyam or sushi, no diff, its still a toyota. toyota being number 1 in the world, will not b so stupid to spoil their reputation to produce a lower grade car from thailand, especially for singapore market whereby singaporeans are the most picky owners in the world and we have the most ex cars in the world too. i guess allion now is more ex than altis, given the altis 1.6A $57,988 (OMV$16,700) vs allion 1.5 CVT $~63,000 (OMV $14,800) so which is a better buy? smart clever singaporeans will know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkotody Neutral Newbie September 10, 2008 Share September 10, 2008 Let's not forget the looks.New Altis looks like sxxt.I'd rather the Allion anytime & yes there is definitely a differenec in the build quality of Thai & Jap cars.Seen & felt it myself.Anyway, the servicing cost for BM cars are ridiculous! My mum's camry's 20K service cost $400!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticklish8 3rd Gear September 11, 2008 Share September 11, 2008 $58k hahahahahaha good price. I hope the people below show the same enthusiasm http://www.xxxxxxx.com/pdb/cdr.php?pid=47...%3D39%26aso%3D0 The best quote "Sorry, no more tom yam for me. I regretted choosing this model. Never had a bad transmission on my 13 yr old civic, never leak absorber before...first time i see a toyota shocks leak almost after 10k of use...no more toyota ever unless it jap..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticklish8 3rd Gear September 11, 2008 Share September 11, 2008 (edited) Totally agree...... AD more purchasing power, they will reduce price accordingly to the drop in COE prices.... PI more hesitant because they believe the COE will rebound. So many do not cut car prices as aggressively. IMHO Allion price should be 61k rite now. I bought $65,988 COE $14.5k. COE now $9,500, so go figure out the price drop accordingly..... Edited September 11, 2008 by Ticklish8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveynorman Neutral Newbie January 17, 2009 Share January 17, 2009 Totally agree...... AD more purchasing power, they will reduce price accordingly to the drop in COE prices.... PI more hesitant because they believe the COE will rebound. So many do not cut car prices as aggressively. IMHO Allion price should be 61k rite now. I bought $65,988 COE $14.5k. COE now $9,500, so go figure out the price drop accordingly..... guys any idea whats the price for the allion and premio right now? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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