Alveron2001 Neutral Newbie July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 (edited) Wow !!! 100km/l and weighs 660kg. Less than Vios (800+ KG?) The 55L tank in my car would go 5500km ! Half my yearly mileage !!! It seems they had the design plans stashed for the past 6 years. But only decided to take it out now. (they say due to costs, but I think due to high fuel prices ?) The plan is to make 1000 units for demo/testing by 2010. Actual Protype is already available as seen in below pics. http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/07/laugh-at-high-g.html ========================================================= With gas prices going through the roof and regulators requiring cars to be ever more miserly, Volkswagen is bringing new meaning to the term "fuel efficiency" with a bullet-shaped microcar that gets a stunning 282 235 mpg. Volkswagen's had its super-thrifty One-Liter Car concept vehicle -- so named because that's how much fuel it needs to go 100 kilometers -- stashed away for six years. The body's made of carbon fiber to minimize weight (the entire car weighs just 660 pounds) and company execs didn't expect the material to become cheap enough to produce the car until 2012. But VW's decided to build the car two years ahead of schedule. According to Britain's Car magazine, VW has approved a plan to build a limited number of One-Liters in 2010. They'll probably be built in the company's prototype shop, which has the capacity to build as many as 1,000 per year. That's not a lot, but it's enough to help VW get a lot of attention while showing how much light weight and an efficient engine can achieve. VW unveiled the slick two-seater concept six years ago at a stockholder's meeting in Hamburg. To prove it was a real car, Chairman Ferdinand Piech personally drove it from Wolfsburg to Hamburg. At the time, he said the car could see production when the cost of its carbon monocoque dropped from 35,000 Euros (about $55,000) to 5,000 Euros (about $8,000) -- something he figured would happen in 2012. With carbon fiber being used in everything from airliners to laptops these days, VW's apparently decided the cost is competitive enough to build at least a few hundred One-Liters. VW's engineers -- who spent three years developing the car -- made extensive use of magnesium, titanium and aluminum to bring it in at less than one-third the weight of a Toyota Echo. According to Canadian Driver, the front suspension assembly weighs just 18 pounds. The six-speed transmission features a magnesium case, titanium bolts and hollow gears; it weighs a tad more than 50 pounds. The 16-inch wheels are carbon fiber. The magnesium steering wheel weighs a little more than a pound. How much of the concept car's exotic hardware makes it to the production model remains to be seen. Low weight only gets you so far in the quest for ultimate fuel economy; aerodynamics plays a big role. The One-Liter is long and low, coming in at 11.4 feet long, 4.1 feet wide and 3.3 feet tall. It features an aircraft-like canopy, flat wheel covers and a belly pan to smooth the airflow under the car. The engine cooling vents open only when needed, and video cameras take the place of mirrors. The passenger sits behind the driver to keep the car narrow. The car has a coefficient of drag of 0.16; the average car comes in around 0.30 and the Honda Insight had a Cd of 0.25. As for the engine, the concept had a one-cylinder diesel engine producing 8.5 horsepower and 13.5 foot-pounds of torque. Car says the production model will use a two-cylinder turbodiesel for a little more oomph. Doubling the number of cylinders is sure to cut fuel economy, so VW may install a diesel-hybrid drivetrain. The engine turns off at stop lights to save fuel, then automatically restarts when the driver depresses the accelerator pedal. (Update: The car reportedly has anti-lock brakes, stability control and airbags. According to Canadian Driver, "Volkswagen says the One-Liter Car is as safe as a GT sports car registered for racing. With the aid of computer crash simulations, the car was designed with built-in crash tubes, pressure sensors for airbag control and front crumple zones.") What's it gonna cost? Car quotes "one well-placed insider" who says the One-Liter could have a sticker price of anywhere from 20,000 to 30,000 Euros (about $31,750 to $47,622). That's a lot of money. But then, the One-Liter, despite its diminutive size, is a lot of car. Note/Update: Turns out the 282 mpg figure refers to Imperial gallons; the proper figure when converted to U.S. gallons is 235 mpg. Edited July 8, 2008 by Alveron2001 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrynadz 5th Gear July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 looks nice and pretty with the vito behind imagine if it was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigysaint Clutched July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 (edited) cannot lah.. look at the tailback.. if this goes on.. more ERP gantries liao... but i must say.. it's a good FC car.. hahha Edited July 8, 2008 by Prodigysaint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetabout777 1st Gear July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 That is a VW Transporter by the way. If you noticed, all the cars behind it are VWs. Not very wise to have other car brands in the background, especially so for official pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetabout777 1st Gear July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 I wouldn't mind getting one of those if it were to be mass produced and priced reasonably (benchmarked against a 1.6l car). Great way to save mother nature as well as our hard earned money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizou 1st Gear July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 only practical if it sits 4. for a two seater that sips close to 100km/L, we already have a few on the road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles 4th Gear July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 This concept, driven by Ferdinand Piech, Chairman of VW AG, to his retirement (from CEO) party in 2002 ... is not new. This concept car cost about 1mil Euro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 4th Gear July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 very nice ... but may not be practical in SG cos got a lot of buses and lollis later become sardine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshok 1st Gear July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 this car put ICE not bad leh. no need worry abt TA.. can just run a passive setup steady liao.. hahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 U mean the VW Transporter is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmaniac Neutral Newbie July 8, 2008 Share July 8, 2008 Fuel saving but they seriously need to improve the safety of the car by all means Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alveron2001 Neutral Newbie July 9, 2008 Author Share July 9, 2008 What makes you say that the car would be unsafe ? Car is made from Magnesium and Titatium, stuff used for aircraft. It also has ABS, airbags and stability control. plus the quote below says that it is rated up to GT sports racing grade of safety... How come not safe leh ? (Update: The car reportedly has anti-lock brakes, stability control and airbags. According to Canadian Driver, "Volkswagen says the One-Liter Car is as safe as a GT sports car registered for racing. With the aid of computer crash simulations, the car was designed with built-in crash tubes, pressure sensors for airbag control and front crumple zones.") Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrynadz 5th Gear July 9, 2008 Share July 9, 2008 psychologically would u prefer to be be up against a cement mixer speeding at 100 in this or a bigger car crash impact only useful for same size vehicles, against a large one this vehicle will get rolled over like a monster truck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear July 9, 2008 Share July 9, 2008 (edited) Nah, will never be successful coz it will be covertly killed by the cartels. Check out what happened to GM's EV1... And of course, in the context of Spore, more demand will drive up COE, more ERP... Cost of ownership will still be the same eventually.. You think gahmen is gonna song song let you get away with cheap ownership? TKK.. Edited July 9, 2008 by Tjkbeluga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viotrex Neutral Newbie July 9, 2008 Share July 9, 2008 The rear passenger has to be a tiny person to fit in behind the driver, and this fighter jet seating configuration sucks for guys bringing dates out. Heh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alveron2001 Neutral Newbie July 9, 2008 Author Share July 9, 2008 (edited) only practical if it sits 4. for a two seater that sips close to 100km/L, we already have a few on the road. The Trike cannot count leh, no roof, so it's more like a bike. I think the environment of a enclosed roof and AC is a world of difference. Is the smart car also 100km/l ? Wiki shows that the best smart model is only 29km/l and the 999cc model does 21km/l VW car is 100km/l, a big difference woah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Fortwo Edited July 9, 2008 by Alveron2001 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alveron2001 Neutral Newbie July 9, 2008 Author Share July 9, 2008 This concept, driven by Ferdinand Piech, Chairman of VW AG, to his retirement (from CEO) party in 2002 ... is not new. This concept car cost about 1mil Euro. Wow... that's alot for the concept model. It seems that they estimate to bring it to 45,000 EUROs with mass production. Still not cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alveron2001 Neutral Newbie July 9, 2008 Author Share July 9, 2008 (edited) This concept, driven by Ferdinand Piech, Chairman of VW AG, to his retirement (from CEO) party in 2002 ... is not new. This concept car cost about 1mil Euro. They estimate it will cost 40,000+ EUROs with mass production. Still not cheap. Edited July 9, 2008 by Alveron2001 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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