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How do you find the noise intrusion into the Cabin from the Wheel? As I mentioned in my previous post, on some road surface, especially some part of AYE/PIE in the west, the road is very rough and the car can get a bit noisy. Hope to hear on your opinion on the following:

 

1). I gathered that the soundproofing on Teana is considered good, anyone can share their experience on other cars (e.g. camry, accord or lexus) regarding noise level on these expressway?

 

2). Anyone has replaced their Original Dunlop 270 with Michelin Energy or Bridgestone GR80? is it quieter?

 

I read an article in HK "Car Plus" magazine, November 2008, Bridgestone GR-80 is standard on the Teana, and the reviewer commented Teana quietness on the road is comparable to Lexus.

Hi, I'm new here. Owned a 2005 230JM Cefiro before. Also owned a Sylphy 2.0 (for wife) and just got dlelivery of Teana 250XV 3 weeks ago.

I noticed that both the Sylphy 2.0 and 230JM Cefiro's suspensions were tuned for 'full' comfort. So we didn't feel the road and hear the road noise so much. But due to pressure from the market by Honda (and those sports enthusiast) I strongly suspect Teana 250XV 's suspension has compromised the comfort with a bit more sporty. It's even more pronounced in the 350XV which I considered but declined because of the sporty suspension.

 

Of course, it did not help that our stock tyres are also sporty, hence more noise. Changing tyres may reduce thiis problem.

 

Wonderful thing about Teana 250XV suspension is I could negotiate the ECP exit to Rochor bend at 70km/h confidently and comfortably, without stepping on the brakes! Also felt that our suspension felt more like the Merc E series now.

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i tested the Teana 200 and it was a piece of crap!!! the engine made so much noise, plus the car is severely underpowered!!! it rolls so much in the corners, i almost went to the opposite side of the car and the ride is bumpy!!! interior quality is quite poor i must say...the 2.5V6 shouldn't be that much different besides the quieter engine...what kind of car is this???

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i tested the Teana 200 and it was a piece of crap!!! the engine made so much noise, plus the car is severely underpowered!!! it rolls so much in the corners, i almost went to the opposite side of the car and the ride is bumpy!!! interior quality is quite poor i must say...the 2.5V6 shouldn't be that much different besides the quieter engine...what kind of car is this???

 

I am not sure if are you comparing Teana with Maybach / Bentley. For a car within 100k in Singapore, I don't think Teana is that bad.

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Saw one white with skyroof. Look very nice.

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i tested the Teana 200 and it was a piece of crap!!! the engine made so much noise, plus the car is severely underpowered!!! it rolls so much in the corners, i almost went to the opposite side of the car and the ride is bumpy!!! interior quality is quite poor i must say...the 2.5V6 shouldn't be that much different besides the quieter engine...what kind of car is this???

 

if a teana you can also complain until like that, then you must be a luxury car owner........or maybe you just complain for the sake of it.

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if a teana you can also complain until like that, then you must be a luxury car owner........or maybe you just complain for the sake of it.

Aiya, Bro, this forum mah, say anything one can say, like test drive Zonta, like crap blah blah....Tested A380, did not like it also, cannot spray Gold for me.

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i tested the Teana 200 and it was a piece of crap!!! the engine made so much noise, plus the car is severely underpowered!!! it rolls so much in the corners, i almost went to the opposite side of the car and the ride is bumpy!!! interior quality is quite poor i must say...the 2.5V6 shouldn't be that much different besides the quieter engine...what kind of car is this???

 

Only people driving a super luxury 4-5 litre car will make such comments. Since you test drove only the 2 litre and not even the 2.5 litre, then my only conclusion is that you are definitely not a super luxury car owner and most probably a envious owner of tom yam Camry or Accord.

 

Compared to its competition (Camry & Accord) , the 2.5 V6 has been voted the best car amongst the 3 by Torque magazine, the best value for money car in its category by a group of journalists polled by SPH , favourite luxury car by AA's Highway car, etc. Many more to come as not all of them have done a comparison yet.

 

For me the 2.5V6 is the best value for money car in its price category. Even compared to luxury makes like the BMW 5 series which I have sat in many times, it makes one wonder why are people willing to pay 80-90k more just for a marginally better car. You get someone who knows nothing about cars and the status attached to BMW 5 or Mercedes 200 series and he will conclude that the these cars should be worth not more than 20-30k than the Teana 250XV and on par with the 104k 350XV.

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Hi, I'm new here. Owned a 2005 230JM Cefiro before. Also owned a Sylphy 2.0 (for wife) and just got dlelivery of Teana 250XV 3 weeks ago.

I noticed that both the Sylphy 2.0 and 230JM Cefiro's suspensions were tuned for 'full' comfort. So we didn't feel the road and hear the road noise so much. But due to pressure from the market by Honda (and those sports enthusiast) I strongly suspect Teana 250XV 's suspension has compromised the comfort with a bit more sporty. It's even more pronounced in the 350XV which I considered but declined because of the sporty suspension.

 

Of course, it did not help that our stock tyres are also sporty, hence more noise. Changing tyres may reduce thiis problem.

 

Wonderful thing about Teana 250XV suspension is I could negotiate the ECP exit to Rochor bend at 70km/h confidently and comfortably, without stepping on the brakes! Also felt that our suspension felt more like the Merc E series now.

 

Given a choice I would have preferred the 230JM suspension set-up on the Teana. Some part of the comfort has been compromised. Also the larger 17" and lower profile 55 tyres make the uneven road surface quite obvious apart from increased road noise. This is the first time I am driving on 55 profile tyres and it makes me wonder how uncomfortable it must be driving cars with 18" 50 and lesser profile tyres. I changed my tyres to Yokohama DNA DB, which are one of the quietest in the market but the reduction in road noise was very marginal (means the stock tyres are already reasonably quiet despite a more sportier profile) though the car felt significantly smoother. I was surprised that the tyres made so much difference in the smoothness of the car - like driving a V6 after driving a 4 cylinder. I tried getting 60 profile tyres in 17" but could not find suitable ones and was told it may not fit the Teana. That would have made the ride more comfortable.

Handling has certainly improved but then again drivers who buy cars like Teana need not have fantastic handling cars. On Singapore roads, matured level headed drivers will hardly utilise 30% of the handling abilities of their sports cars. During my 3 years ownership of the Cefiro 230JM, not once did I nearly lost control of the car due to its supposedly below average handling despite occasional aggressive driving.

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FC still sucks leh

 

You mean average of 9.5km/l for a 2.5 litre V6 sucks? This is comparable to the fc of the 2.4 litre Camry. This is why people blindly continue buying its inferior competitors thinking Teana/Cefiro fc is bad. It was bad with the earlier models but no longer is. In any case what is $30-$40 more in petrol bills a month if you can afford a 100k car. Singaporeans are very myopic.

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You mean average of 9.5km/l for a 2.5 litre V6 sucks? This is comparable to the fc of the 2.4 litre Camry. This is why people blindly continue buying its inferior competitors thinking Teana/Cefiro fc is bad. It was bad with the earlier models but no longer is. In any case what is $30-$40 more in petrol bills a month if you can afford a 100k car. Singaporeans are very myopic.

 

 

I agree with you bro

can't stand those people who make a big hoooohaa over 0.5km-1km/l increase in consumption. wah piang.

can pay 90k for a car like dat, den wanna make so much noise.

 

If you driving Chery qq, Den i got nth to say. sigh.!

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Given a choice I would have preferred the 230JM suspension set-up on the Teana. Some part of the comfort has been compromised. Also the larger 17" and lower profile 55 tyres make the uneven road surface quite obvious apart from increased road noise. This is the first time I am driving on 55 profile tyres and it makes me wonder how uncomfortable it must be driving cars with 18" 50 and lesser profile tyres. I changed my tyres to Yokohama DNA DB, which are one of the quietest in the market but the reduction in road noise was very marginal (means the stock tyres are already reasonably quiet despite a more sportier profile) though the car felt significantly smoother. I was surprised that the tyres made so much difference in the smoothness of the car - like driving a V6 after driving a 4 cylinder. I tried getting 60 profile tyres in 17" but could not find suitable ones and was told it may not fit the Teana. That would have made the ride more comfortable.

Handling has certainly improved but then again drivers who buy cars like Teana need not have fantastic handling cars. On Singapore roads, matured level headed drivers will hardly utilise 30% of the handling abilities of their sports cars. During my 3 years ownership of the Cefiro 230JM, not once did I nearly lost control of the car due to its supposedly below average handling despite occasional aggressive driving.

I prefer the 230JM comfort suspension too, especially with the combination of the superior seats of 250XV. You're right, I never had any handling problem with the 230JM suspension despite occasional aggressive driving.

 

Thanks for the info on your tyres upgrade. Will consider Bridgestone GR80 later.

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FC still sucks leh

For consistent 70%highway and 30%city, my previous 230JM averaged 11km/l throughout its 3plus years. Currently, during breaking-in of 250XV, I saw the meter showing 11.8km/l for the first full tank of petrol. [flowerface]

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For consistent 70%highway and 30%city, my previous 230JM averaged 11km/l throughout its 3plus years. Currently, during breaking-in of 250XV, I saw the meter showing 11.8km/l for the first full tank of petrol. [flowerface]

 

Wow! Ur foot must be realli light...

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You mean average of 9.5km/l for a 2.5 litre V6 sucks? This is comparable to the fc of the 2.4 litre Camry. This is why people blindly continue buying its inferior competitors thinking Teana/Cefiro fc is bad. It was bad with the earlier models but no longer is. In any case what is $30-$40 more in petrol bills a month if you can afford a 100k car. Singaporeans are very myopic.

Nissan is an underdog compared to Toyota/Honda. A lot of people don't checkout the competition before deciding their purchase. They simply trusted in the toyota/Honda brands. That's why Nissan got to work harder and we benefited with a better Teana!

 

I believe Toyota was better a few years ago. But sadly if you noticed, because they know people trusted the brand, they got complacent. Their models are hardly revolutionary or outstanding, always use old technoloy (eg. current corolla) and for local AD imports, from Thailand some more (same with Honda)! So many disadvantages and yet majority don't bother to checkout. I just saw in the net that Toyota just announced a 2.5l Camry for 2010 model in USA. The rear lights also look similar to Teana. Look, he's just following Nissan!

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Hi,

I have a 3 month old Teana 2.5. This is my 3rd "Cefiro", had a 200JK, a FL 230JM prior to the teana. I get 10.6 km/L now, 70% Highway and 30% City. Can I find out if your indicator clicks when you switch it on and turn the steering wheel slightly to the direction the indicator is switched on to? I tried the test drive ones and they have the same problem. Very irritating.

 

 

every car have that click. onli thing is the sound. it sound more like a plastic ticking or a softer ticking.

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For consistent 70%highway and 30%city, my previous 230JM averaged 11km/l throughout its 3plus years. Currently, during breaking-in of 250XV, I saw the meter showing 11.8km/l for the first full tank of petrol. [flowerface]

 

 

woah

my best was 9.2km/l

Most of e time is 7.5-8km/l. but its about 95% city driving.

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I prefer the 230JM comfort suspension too, especially with the combination of the superior seats of 250XV. You're right, I never had any handling problem with the 230JM suspension despite occasional aggressive driving.

 

Thanks for the info on your tyres upgrade. Will consider Bridgestone GR80 later.

 

You should consider the Yokohama DNA DB ES510 as well. According to tyre vendors they are even more quieter than the Birdgestone GR 80. Many people have the perception that the DNA DB ES501 are very bad in the wet. This was the case for the earlier model ES500 as I myself nearly skidded on those tyres in the rain. But after going through 3 sets of the upgraded ES501, I never once experienced any lost of control in the wet. The upgraded ES501 are much improved as compared to ES500 in the wet. It will not give you the confidence of sports tyres but neither will it play you out as long as you don't drive too aggressively when raining.

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why people want to buy an oil guzzler when so much more better choices around ah??

 

cheaper ones and more luxurious ones, but with much better FC plenty wat

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why people want to buy an oil guzzler when so much more better choices around ah??

 

cheaper ones and more luxurious ones, but with much better FC plenty wat

 

which model then?

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Nissan is an underdog compared to Toyota/Honda. A lot of people don't checkout the competition before deciding their purchase. They simply trusted in the toyota/Honda brands. That's why Nissan got to work harder and we benefited with a better Teana!

 

I believe Toyota was better a few years ago. But sadly if you noticed, because they know people trusted the brand, they got complacent. Their models are hardly revolutionary or outstanding, always use old technoloy (eg. current corolla) and for local AD imports, from Thailand some more (same with Honda)! So many disadvantages and yet majority don't bother to checkout. I just saw in the net that Toyota just announced a 2.5l Camry for 2010 model in USA. The rear lights also look similar to Teana. Look, he's just following Nissan!

 

I am very surprised to see more SJL, SJK Camry's on the road than Teanas despite Teana being a a more superior car (at least the 250XV compared to the 2.4 litre Camry/Accord & being confirmed by many motoring journalists). Most of these people just follow the crowd. Since majority are buying Toyotas and Honda. then better play safe and buy a Toyota or Honda. Since majority are saying the Cefiros are well known for bad fc, then all new models of Cefiros/Teana must also be having bad fc. Most of them have already made up their mind and they simply walk into the showroom, go for a short test drive and walk away with the booking form in their hands. What a pity. When I went for a test drive of the Camry 2.4 , I had hardly left the showroom and I told myself why are people so silly buying a comparatively unrefined car when for the same price they can get a smooth V6 drive. I guess people are more concerned about popularity and brand rather than engine refinement, etc etc.

 

I had a sprint challenge with the same new Accord 2.4 from 2 consecutive traffic light stops recently. Both times the Accord was outrun. The driver must be wondering how on earth the Accord got ourun by the Teana. He must be one of those who walks into the Honda showroom thinking how on earth can its competitors be better.

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I am very surprised to see more SJL, SJK Camry's on the road than Teanas despite Teana being a a more superior car (at least the 250XV compared to the 2.4 litre Camry/Accord & being confirmed by many motoring journalists). Most of these people just follow the crowd. Since majority are buying Toyotas and Honda. then better play safe and buy a Toyota or Honda. Since majority are saying the Cefiros are well known for bad fc, then all new models of Cefiros/Teana must also be having bad fc. Most of them have already made up their mind and they simply walk into the showroom, go for a short test drive and walk away with the booking form in their hands. What a pity. When I went for a test drive of the Camry 2.4 , I had hardly left the showroom and I told myself why are people so silly buying a comparatively unrefined car when for the same price they can get a smooth V6 drive. I guess people are more concerned about popularity and brand rather than engine refinement, etc etc.

 

I had a sprint challenge with the same new Accord 2.4 from 2 consecutive traffic light stops recently. Both times the Accord was outrun. The driver must be wondering how on earth the Accord got ourun by the Teana. He must be one of those who walks into the Honda showroom thinking how on earth can its competitors be better.

 

well, to SG buyer

Honda = power = VTEC>>> remember VTEC

Toyota = good FC = VVTi>>remember VVTi

Nissan = nothing>>bo power=drinker

 

when camry 2.4 give u 9km/l >> it's damn good

but Teana 2.5 give u also 9km/l>>NB, drinker

Honda 2.4 give also 9km/l>>is ok, it's Powerful car

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For consistent 70%highway and 30%city, my previous 230JM averaged 11km/l throughout its 3plus years. Currently, during breaking-in of 250XV, I saw the meter showing 11.8km/l for the first full tank of petrol. [flowerface]

 

 

You can't depend on the meter to give you the average consumption. The meter only shows the average fc for the last 40-50kms or so . The best way to get average fc is to do it manually. Fill up the tank competely, reset the mileage meter and then at the next top up see how many kms travelled divided by litres pumped in. I think the average for majority should fall in the 9 -10km/l range.

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well, to SG buyer

Honda = power = VTEC>>> remember VTEC

Toyota = good FC = VVTi>>remember VVTi

Nissan = nothing>>bo power=drinker

 

when camry 2.4 give u 9km/l >> it's damn good

but Teana 2.5 give u also 9km/l>>NB, drinker

Honda 2.4 give also 9km/l>>is ok, it's Powerful car

 

 

Very good summary of the thought process of most buyers considering these models. Tan Chong will need a miracle to change people's deeply set wrong perceptions.

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well, to SG buyer

Honda = power = VTEC>>> remember VTEC

Toyota = good FC = VVTi>>remember VVTi

Nissan = nothing>>bo power=drinker

 

when camry 2.4 give u 9km/l >> it's damn good

but Teana 2.5 give u also 9km/l>>NB, drinker

Honda 2.4 give also 9km/l>>is ok, it's Powerful car

Nissan ranked fuel drinker all the reason due to sunny, besides sunny others are not much diff from their competitors [thumbsup]

because sunny is too long life :D

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