Turkish Grand Prix F1

[Jonbummer]

it's a F1 weekend once again.... dun most of us know it already when

we heard of "VPower going at the price of 98" AGAIN

 

this week, the 'circus' is at Istanbul Park Circuit.

it is slightly over 5km in length, but the most tricky bit of this track is

that it is of anti clockwise.

driver will have to prepare carefully for this weekend, else necks will

suffer immensely.

 

also "the track is best known for the challenge presented by Turn Eight,

a triple-apex left-hander that seems to go on and on.

it is taken around 250 km/h generates arguably the highest G-forces

drivers see over the season. "

 

however, the past few weeks i had been really disappointed with the F1 circus.

it is really a circus...

 

1stly, we did not see more racing than last year with all the car design changes,

did we? then again, i reserve my judgment on that, as most cars are still

trying to match Brawn's clever deign. once, teams do catch up, i really do hope

there are really more true blooded racing from all teams.

 

2nd, is there really going to be a F1 2010 season? i just can't believe at a time

when the sports shld be doing everything it can to promote itself, it just turn ard and

shot itself in both feet. one foot for the ugly cars, and another for all the

politics involving cost cutting and what have you.

Max Mosley has even came out and said this:

[Jonbummer]

hmmm

 

 

think i had a typo or brain fade in my previous post, shld be:

 

so do i expect a good race this weekend? i will not really hold my breathe

for it, as Button should really continue his rich form from the front to clinch

yet another win. he will not give it his all, that i'm very sure.

 

 

Practice 1 time sheet...

and boy oh boy.... BMW is still there.... at the foot of the timing sheet!

 

1. Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:28.952

2. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.263

3. Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:29.271

4. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:29.337

5. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:29.342

6. Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:29.371

7. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:29.398

8. Fernando Alonso Renault 1:29.422

9. Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:29.525

10. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.590

11. Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:29.747

12. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:29.864

13. Timo Glock Toyota 1:29.934

14. Nelson Piquet Renault 1:30.132

15. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:30.176

16. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:30.645

17. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:30.689

18. Giancarlo Fisichella India-Mercedes 1:30.729

19. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:30.838

20. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:30.944

Edited June 5, 2009 by Jonbummer

[Jonbummer]

Practice 2, from grandprix.com:

 

 

Heikki Kovalainen set the fastest time of the second session of Friday practice for the Turkish GP, beating Fernando Alonso, Robert Kubica and Kazuki Nakajima. This unusual line-up suggests that the times should not be taken too seriously.

Fifth place went to Sebastian Vettel, who missed much of the session after an early mechanical problem left him stranded on the circuit. The car was retrieved by marshals and sent out again.

 

Behind the Red Bull driver was the Toyota of Jarno Trulli and the Williams-Toyota of Nico Rosberg. Rubens Barrichello was eighth quickest in his Brawn-Mercedes ahead of Mark Webber, Nelson Piquet, Felipe Massa and Jenson Button.

 

Lewis Hamilton was next up ahead of Timo Glock, Kimi Raikkonen, Nick Heidfeld and then the two Force Indias and the two Toro Rossos.

 

Several drivers had spins, while Fisichella and Nakajima had a minor collision and both spun.

 

 

1. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.841

2. Fernando Alonso Renault 1:28.847

3. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:29.056

4. Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:29.091

5. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:29.202

6. Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:29.207

7. Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:29.257

8. Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:29.305

9. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:29.383

10. Nelson Piquet Renault 1:29.401

 

11. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:29.416

12. Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:29.430

13. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.435

14. Timo Glock Toyota 1:29.518

15. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:29.520

16. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:29.550

17. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:30.081

18. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:30.091

19. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:30.295

20. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:30.629

Edited June 6, 2009 by Jonbummer

[Route88]

FIA F1 World C'ship Qualifying 2009 : ING Turkish GPEp 7 (Live)

06:50 PM - 08:30 PM

 

Cannot watch ~ got wedding dinner

[Jonbummer]

no worries bro, there's always a repeat later in the night, i think

yes there's but... it's:

 

 

FIA F1 World C'ship Qualifying 2009 : ING Turkish GP Ep 7

02:00 AM - 03:30 AM

[Jonbummer]

practice 3:

 

Felipe Massa set the fastest time of the first practice session on Saturday morning in Turkey. The Ferrari driver, who has won the race three times thus far, looked very strong, but had the two Toyotas right up with him, Jarno Trulli beating Timo Glock to second. Fourth place fell to Kazuki Nakajima's Williams with Robert Kubica sixth.

 

Rising quietly up the order, however, were the two Brawns. The team had a quiet day on Friday but as things become more serious so Rubens Barrichello and Jenson Button climb the order and it is hard to imagine that they will not be serious players in the qualifying sessions.

 

Behind them in eighth was Nico Rosberg in the second Williams, ahead of Kimi Raikkonen's Ferrari, Sebastian Vettel's Red Bull, Nelson Piquet's Renault and Lewis Hamilton's McLaren.

 

Mark Webber was 13th fastest ahead of Nick Heidfeld's BMW Sauber, the McLaren of Heikki Kovalainen and Adrian Sutil's Force India.

 

Next up were the two Toro Rossos of Sebastiens Bourdais and Buemi, then a disappointing Fernando Alonso and Giancarlo Fisichella in the second Force India.

 

After three sessions when the times have meant very little, things will get serious in qualifying.

 

 

1. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:27.983

2. Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:28.022

3. Timo Glock Toyota 1:28.094

4. Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:28.122

5. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:28.320

6. Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:28.332

7. Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:28.360

8. Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:28.364

9. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:28.415

10. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:28.451

 

11. Nelson Piquet Renault 1:28.503

12. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.563

13. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:28.678

14. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:28.715

15. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.738

16. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:29.050

17. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:29.076

18. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:29.167

19. Fernando Alonso Renault 1:29.261

20. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:29.421

[Jonbummer]

hopefully, the RBR will really be challenging the Brawn so that we

will hv a good race.

 

wat on earth is the McLaren doing... gees!

 

qualifying:

 

1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:28.316

2. Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 1:28.421

3. Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 1:28.579

4. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:28.613

 

5. Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:28.666

6. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:28.815

7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:28.858

8. Fernando Alonso Renault 1:29.075

9. Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:29.191

10. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:29.357

 

11. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:27.521

12. Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:27.629

13. Timo Glock Toyota 1:27.795

14. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.207

15. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:28.391

 

16. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.318

17. Nelson Piquet Renault 1:28.582

18. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:28.708

19. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 1:28.717

20. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:28.918

[Bsbs]

Sometimes i wonder if Hamilton is really as good as everybody say he is or is it just McLaren having a fantastic car last yr.??????

Edited June 6, 2009 by Bsbs

[Ekia11]

Let's hope Ferrari can do better this weekend..

[Friendstar]

Sometimes i wonder if Hamilton is really as good as everybody say he is or is it just McLaren having a fantastic car last yr.??????

 

 

 

bro.... he went ard the top gear track in ULTRA wet condition and clocked a timing close to the legendary stig (in dry condition)

 

that to me... can only be done by schumacher.

[Ohlins]

Sometimes i wonder if Hamilton is really as good as everybody say he is or is it just McLaren having a fantastic car last yr.??????

 

i think it's abit of both.......

 

look at what JB is doing with a good car..... he could do nothing with a ill-handling honda....

 

 

[Jonbummer]

yup.. a good car is equally important, if not more important, than a good driver.

 

cos as we can see from JB's case, there's only so much he can do with a lousy

car

 

and with a good car, he just seems to be on his natural quickness

 

i.e. a bad driver can hide behind a good car

but with a bad car, there seems to be nowhere to hide in it for any drivers

[Jonbummer]

itv-f1.com. fuel load revealed:

 

1. VETTEL Red Bull 649.5

2. BUTTON Brawn 655.5

3. BARRICHELLO Brawn 652.5

4. WEBBER Red Bull 656

5. TRULLI Toyota 652

6. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 658

7. MASSA Ferrari 654

8. ALONSO Renault 644.5

9. ROSBERG Williams 660

10. KUBICA BMW 664

11. HEIDFELD BMW 681.5

12. NAKAJIMA Williams 680.4

13. GLOCK Toyota 689

14. KOVALAINEN McLaren 665

15. SUTIL Force India 668.5

16. HAMILTON McLaren 696.5

17. PIQUET Renault 689.6

18. BUEMI Toro Rosso 686.5

19. FISICHELLA Force India 688.5

20. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 701

 

The suspicion after qualifying was that Sebastian Vettel had used a light fuel load to beat the Brawns to pole, and so it proved.

 

But this was not a gamble on the Monaco scale from Red Bull, as Vettel only has a couple of laps less fuel than his front-row counterpart Jenson Button

[Jonbummer]

quite an interesting race, starting with Ruben Barrichello screwing up his start again

then towards the end, it was exciting to see if the 2 Red Bull will in fact racing wheel to wheel

with one another and perhaps taking both out.

 

and it's clear there's little or no spectators in track, i dun think there's one single

shot of the stands anywhere...

 

JB has 26 points lead in the championship standing

 

1. Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes

2. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault

3. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault

 

4. Jarno Trulli Toyota

5. Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota

6. Felipe Massa Ferrari

7. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber

8. Timo Glock Toyota

 

9. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari

10. Fernando Alonso Renault

11. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber

12. Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota

13. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes

14. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes

15. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari

16. Nelson Piquet Renault

17. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes

18. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari

 

R Rubens Barrichello Brazil Brawn-Mercedes

R Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Force India-Mercedes

[Jonbummer]

just to show how bad the attendance is for the Turkish GP...

[Starry]

That brawn car is really good. Even when it is heavily loaded with fuel, Vettel's lighter Red bull has big issue on catching it and overtaking it. And that Brawn car has no issue in going "flat out" (JB said that) at the triple Apex corner.

 

What the hell is Honda thinking after coming out with such a good car?

[Picnic06-Biante15]

Poor Rubens Barrichello........ had a poor start.....

 

3rd fastest but due to poor starts, found himself position 12 at the first turn ........

 

crash with another car at around 18 laps and later retires 6 laps before finish.........

[Jonbummer]

the worst thing abt the Honda pull out is that they in fact paid for

BrawnGP expenses this year... and soon instead of a Honda logo,

we may see Merc badge on the car as the engine supplier!